Trophies or awards just for participation and Is it damaging the youth of today?

rr165892

MayDay10 said:

someone on ESPN mentioned "Senior Day". Typically a college team or high school team take their last home game and honor the Seniors. Even if they never won anything, and even if they do not see playing time. Is that the same thing and should it be frowned on by meatheads like James Harrison?

Totally different

MayDay10

Drowned Out said:

I like this guy's take on the topic:

http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/all-kids-should-get-trophies

good column for the most part. I think he goes a little unnecessarily overboard/the stuff about being born into a good situation = participation trophies.

rr165892

callen said:

gri

MayDay10 said:

School. Yes I agree. It should be taken seriously and every student should be pushed to do their best. 2nd grade graduation ceremonies are lame.

Word.

Kids are coddled too much.

Insecure bored parents use their kids for self worth.

Participation ribbons are fine.

Good to have winners receive the big trophy and other team not. Good to loose. In sports your uniform is the participation ribbon.

There are others that don't use face book? Yeay!!!!

I think there is a bunch of us Cal.

Godfather.

Cliffy6745 said:

Glad to see we are taking parenting advice from someone who hit the mother of his child.

My take. Who cares if 7 year olds get 3 inch trophies of participating. The winners always got bigger ones, so it wasn't like there wasn't a sense of competition or rewards for winning. It also stops at some point. I got trophies for participation in my YMCA basketball league when i was like 8. By the time I was playing competitively, no one is getting participation trophies.

This conversation always seems like an old "get off my lawn" conversation.

Edit: I also can't imagine parents caring all that much about winning for kids playing sports from 7-10.

hit the mother of his child ? what the fuck are you talking about ?

Godfather.

Cliffy6745

Godfather. said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Glad to see we are taking parenting advice from someone who hit the mother of his child.

My take. Who cares if 7 year olds get 3 inch trophies of participating. The winners always got bigger ones, so it wasn't like there wasn't a sense of competition or rewards for winning. It also stops at some point. I got trophies for participation in my YMCA basketball league when i was like 8. By the time I was playing competitively, no one is getting participation trophies.

This conversation always seems like an old "get off my lawn" conversation.

Edit: I also can't imagine parents caring all that much about winning for kids playing sports from 7-10.

hit the mother of his child ? what the fuck are you talking about ?

Godfather.

James Harrison hit the mother of his child. Or should we talk about the time his pit bull bit his toddler son. What is so difficult to comprehend? This is who we are apparently taking parenting advice from

g under p

Godfather. said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Glad to see we are taking parenting advice from someone who hit the mother of his child.

My take. Who cares if 7 year olds get 3 inch trophies of participating. The winners always got bigger ones, so it wasn't like there wasn't a sense of competition or rewards for winning. It also stops at some point. I got trophies for participation in my YMCA basketball league when i was like 8. By the time I was playing competitively, no one is getting participation trophies.

This conversation always seems like an old "get off my lawn" conversation.

Edit: I also can't imagine parents caring all that much about winning for kids playing sports from 7-10.

hit the mother of his child ? what the fuck are you talking about ?

Godfather.

I believe he's possibly referring to the professional football player Harrison did to the mother of his children.

Peace

Gern Blansten

lol

Godfather.

g under p said:

Godfather. said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Glad to see we are taking parenting advice from someone who hit the mother of his child.

My take. Who cares if 7 year olds get 3 inch trophies of participating. The winners always got bigger ones, so it wasn't like there wasn't a sense of competition or rewards for winning. It also stops at some point. I got trophies for participation in my YMCA basketball league when i was like 8. By the time I was playing competitively, no one is getting participation trophies.

This conversation always seems like an old "get off my lawn" conversation.

Edit: I also can't imagine parents caring all that much about winning for kids playing sports from 7-10.

hit the mother of his child ? what the fuck are you talking about ?

Godfather.

I believe he's possibly referring to the professional football player Harrison did to the mother of his children.

Peace

wahooo, thanks !

Godfather.

pjhawks

Drowned Out said:

I like this guy's take on the topic:

http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/all-kids-should-get-trophies

oh the irony. guy writes an article saying all kids should get trophies then says in the article that he still has one because the girl who didn't show up for the last game didn't get hers. so i guess on his team not everyone got one. kind of funny.

Drowned Out

oh come on… She didn't show for the last game of the year. Was he supposed to go track her down to give it to her?

g under p

Drowned Out said:

oh come on… She didn't show for the last game of the year. Was he supposed to go track her down to give it to her?

I'm sure he had her parents number to give them a call to come their trophy. Who knows they could've been on vacation.

Peace

Drowned Out

g under p said:

Drowned Out said:

oh come on… She didn't show for the last game of the year. Was he supposed to go track her down to give it to her?

I'm sure he had her parents number to give them a call to come their trophy. Who knows they could've been on vacation.

Peace

...or whatever.....ya, I see the irony.
just....ack. nevermind I really don't care about this topic, I don't know why I'm doing this to myself haha

g under p

Drowned Out said:

g under p said:

Drowned Out said:

oh come on… She didn't show for the last game of the year. Was he supposed to go track her down to give it to her?

I'm sure he had her parents number to give them a call to come their trophy. Who knows they could've been on vacation.

Peace

...or whatever.....ya, I see the irony.
just....ack. nevermind I really don't care about this topic, I don't know why I'm doing this to myself haha

Yeah this whole subject matter is all over sports talk radio down here in S Florida. It's getting crazy the more I think about it this is just getting overblown. I think it's more important that parents like myself give their time and their attention to their children rather than the passing out of trophies and the size of said trophies.

I know I put my time, energy and attention to my one child since the day she came home from the hospital.

Peace

Godfather.

are people really disputing a participation trophy ? my son never got one but I have seen many kids get them and it just made thier day.

Godfather.

2-feign-reluctance

Damaging? No. But it's a great example of coddling. Not wanting children to experience disappointment and hurt feelings and adults doing their part to shield them from those emotions COULD play out negatively later on down the line. We're already seeing it in higher education.

pjhawks

Drowned Out said:

oh come on… She didn't show for the last game of the year. Was he supposed to go track her down to give it to her?

if he truly thought she should have gotten then yes he should have found a way to get it to her. just funny and ironic part of the article.

2-feign-reluctance

I want to add that people underestimate resiliency - and that while there appears to be a trend with the current youth generation of ultra PC-ness and drastic measures taken to avoid hurting feelings of others, I can't say that little Timmy getting participation trophies in t-ball means that he'll grow up in some negative fashion. There's a lot of life to live after those formative elementary school years and lots of time and space to influence a person. I think that a person's parents really do quite a bit of the dictating to be honest. I'm biased. I was a therapist and social worker in the peds/elementary age group for a long time and outcomes for mental health and overall health were heavily influenced by Mom and Dad. Resiliency is the x-factor though. Just because....doesn't mean....

Thirty Bills Unpaid

2-feign-reluctance said:

Damaging? No. But it's a great example of coddling. Not wanting children to experience disappointment and hurt feelings and adults doing their part to shield them from those emotions COULD play out negatively later on down the line. We're already seeing it in higher education.

Seeing it everywhere.

Kids breaking down because they get 60% on a term paper in a university course (when really... they should have received 40%). Parents demanding to talk to the professors.

Even parents going into the workforce and 'setting the employer straight' for their kid who blew off several shifts for various reasons.

Cliffy6745

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

Damaging? No. But it's a great example of coddling. Not wanting children to experience disappointment and hurt feelings and adults doing their part to shield them from those emotions COULD play out negatively later on down the line. We're already seeing it in higher education.

Seeing it everywhere.

Kids breaking down because they get 60% on a term paper in a university course (when really... they should have received 40%). Parents demanding to talk to the professors.

Even parents going into the workforce and 'setting the employer straight' for their kid who blew off several shifts for various reasons.

A good recent article from the NY Times that touches on a lot of this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/education/edlife/stress-social-media-and-suicide-on-campus.html?_r=0

I think this issue is the exact opposite of participation trophies though. I see this as overbearing parents who aren't coddling and are not giving support, "awards" or praise for anything less than perfect/winning.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

Damaging? No. But it's a great example of coddling. Not wanting children to experience disappointment and hurt feelings and adults doing their part to shield them from those emotions COULD play out negatively later on down the line. We're already seeing it in higher education.

Seeing it everywhere.

Kids breaking down because they get 60% on a term paper in a university course (when really... they should have received 40%). Parents demanding to talk to the professors.

Even parents going into the workforce and 'setting the employer straight' for their kid who blew off several shifts for various reasons.

Oh, for sure! I can't believe some university students and parents! Moms and dads calling around trying to talk to anyone who will listen to them, trying to convince us that their kid deserves special treatment. Their 21 year old kid, lol. And students getting super angry and offended when they are simply told they are subject to the rules and policies of the university like everyone else. Oh my god. They are absolutely SHOCKED that they can't charm their way into getting the rules changed for them. They get angry, or cry right in your office. They will do things like simply not go to their final exam because they had a concert to attend. Then they waltz in 3 days later expecting to be able to write the exam, no questions asked, lol. When they are told no they throw a tantrum. It's pretty disgusting. I actually once had a student threaten to sue me because he wasn't allowed to write an exam that he missed for no good reason.

This also reminds me of what someone I know who works in the corporate world said. Apparently, some millenials who are now starting their careers sometimes bring their mommies to the office on their first day of work, so they can help decorate their cubicle, lol, and they'll swing by and bring them food and shit on a regular basis. It's just embarrassing. Not sure what the deal is with that generation of parents, who are largely the cause of all this. I guess these are the ones who were teenagers in the late 70s and the 80s? Wtf happened to make them parent like that??