*** 2008 Vote For Change Tour ***

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,289
    I will say I was surprised that I heard less political talk at the VFC shows than at regular PJ shows. It was refreshing.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    The purpose of playing the states they did in 2004 was to hit the "swing states". California and "The South" definitely aren't considered "swing states".

    "All concerts were held in swing states, to benefit MoveOn.org and to encourage people to vote against George W. Bush (and implicitly, and in some performances explicitly, for John Kerry) in the 2004 Presidential election campaign."


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_for_Change

    Yep, and if you made a donation to Move On in addition to face value of the tickets you got great seats. That's how I got 2nd row in Toledo and 4th in Reading.
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  • Capricorn Sister
    Capricorn Sister Posts: 194
    Nader ran as a third-party candidate in the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. He is still loathed by many Democrats who call him a spoiler and claim his candidacy in 2000 cost the party the election by siphoning votes away from Al Gore in a razor-thin contest in Florida. Nader vociferously disputes the spoiler claim, saying only Democrats are to blame for losing the race to George W. Bush.

    Though he won 2.7 percent of the national vote as the Green Party candidate in 2000, his percentage dropped to just 0.3 percent as an independent in 2004, when he appeared on the ballot in only 34 states.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,614
    MasterFramer wrote:
    WTF are you talking about? Who is Bush bashing in this thread? If someone implies you are making things up do you just roll over and take it like a bitch? Guess so.

    "The McBush slime machine," "McBush," "Another Bush in charge." We get it...the guy has a 30% approval rating. If 2004 proved anything, it's that "the other guy's an asshole" makes a candidate appear insecure and empty (see: Hillary stumping in Ohio).

    I really respect Obama and just hope that his supporters can continue to trumpet his strengths rather than bludgeon people with reasons why Bush and/or McCain "suck."
  • SENROCK
    SENROCK Posts: 10,736
    my2hands wrote:
    Ok folks...


    Here it is...


    This years VFC tour is going to be much larger then 2004... MUCH larger... more acts... more states...


    thats all i am saying for now :D

    oooooh nice. 2004 was a damn good year of shows....and meeting people! :D
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  • daughter68
    daughter68 Posts: 97
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Hmmmn..... Detroit keeps voting for Democrats. How's Detroit been doing? How about those Democratic leaders and union leaders? They've really turned Michigan into a thriving metropolis. I think 4 bedroom homes are selling for almost $50,000 now.

    Agreed, Michigan has seen better days.....when the Democrats were running the country!
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    AmentsChick wrote:
    The purpose of playing the states they did in 2004 was to hit the "swing states". California and "The South" definitely aren't considered "swing states".

    "All concerts were held in swing states, to benefit MoveOn.org and to encourage people to vote against George W. Bush (and implicitly, and in some performances explicitly, for John Kerry) in the 2004 Presidential election campaign."


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_for_Change

    that was an excuse to sell tickets...

    not to sell change.


    they gave up on the south instead trying to convert them.
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  • nikita_02445
    nikita_02445 Posts: 76
    MasterFramer wrote:
    WTF are you talking about? Who is Bush bashing in this thread? If someone implies you are making things up do you just roll over and take it like a bitch? Guess so.

    I never implied that you were making anything up - quite the contrary, I went out of my way to be tactful and diplomatic and I got shit, as has everyone else that has responded to you.
    nikita

    I expect some more momentarily...
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    nikita_02445 wrote:
    I never implied that you were making anything up - quite the contrary, I went out of my way to be tactful and diplomatic and I got shit, as has everyone else that has responded to you.
    nikita

    I expect some more momentarily...

    ignore him... he can get a little overbearing sometimes.

    he's always right you know...:D
    the Minions
  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    ignore him... he can get a little overbearing sometimes.

    he's always right you know...:D

    at least you are catching on
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  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,426
    my2hands wrote:
    Ok folks...


    Here it is...


    This years VFC tour is going to be much larger then 2004... MUCH larger... more acts... more states...


    thats all i am saying for now :D
    Until you have facts and source, don't waste our time please!!!
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    evenflowman wrote:
    so what is the lineup then



    Neil Young and The Dead (Greatful Dead)


    will be on the tour


    thats all i am saying for now :D


    2004 was a warmup ;)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Solat13 wrote:
    Yep, and if you made a donation to Move On in addition to face value of the tickets you got great seats. That's how I got 2nd row in Toledo and 4th in Reading.


    they got you to donate to MoveOn...


    thats classic :D
  • Ricsard
    Ricsard Posts: 1,943
    my2hands wrote:
    Neil Young and The Dead (Greatful Dead)


    will be on the tour


    thats all i am saying for now :D


    2004 was a warmup ;)

    Jeeez, that's quite promising...:cool:
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    feeling good about this.....two long time members...with reputations at stake.......this is a good thing.
    Thanks fellas....
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    this will not be a "swing state" only tour such as 2004
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    callen wrote:
    feeling good about this.....two long time members...with reputations at stake.......this is a good thing.
    Thanks fellas....

    i didnt let down on bonnaroo did i?

    :cool:
  • rhinomagic
    rhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,553
    my2hands wrote:
    i didnt let down on bonnaroo did i?

    :cool:


    Are they keeping the Vote for Change name and the association with MoveOn.org?

    Same format as '04: one state, one night, many shows with same pairings of artists?

    .
    Memphis 1994
    New Orleans 1995
    Fort Lauderdale 1996
    Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
    New Orleans 2000
    Tampa 2003
    Kissimmee 2004
    New York City (x 2) 2008
    East Troy (x 2) 2011
    Chicago & New Orleans 2013
    Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
    Baltimore 2020
    Louisville 2022
    Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
    Raleigh 2025
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    my2hands wrote:
    i didnt let down on bonnaroo did i?

    :cool:

    You remind me of my 7th grade girlfriend. What a little tease..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • OrangeBug
    OrangeBug Denver Posts: 182
    So... we should expect a show here in Denver (Red Rocks) to coincide with the Democratic Convention???? Sounds logical to me. :)
    ... are we going to the same place?

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