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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    On guns and the recent shooting in Charleston, Trump called himself a “huge Second Amendment person” and noted that gun-control laws in New York and Chicago have not stopped either major city from “rampant” violence.

    ”So you know, it’s like you can’t legislate against this,” he concluded.

    Trump also praised the “beautiful” response by the Charleston community in the wake of last Wednesday’s shooting at the historic black Emanuel AME Church in South Carolina.

    “I thought it was — maybe it was a lesson, almost, because you see so many problems in so many different locations, Hugh, and you see this beautiful aftermath to a horrible tragedy. And I watched it, and I thought it was really incredible, actually,” he said.

    Trump said that while he has never supported President Barack Obama, he had hoped that the president would be the nation’s “cheerleader,” but that has not been the case.

    “And certainly you would have thought he would have been much better for African-Americans, who are really suffering more than anybody else right now in terms of jobs and everything else,” he went on to say. “So you have an African-American president, and African-American youth is doing worse than virtually it’s ever done.“

  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    On Wednesday, Trump fired off a number of tweets criticizing Young for being a "total hypocrite." He claimed Young attempted to do a business deal with him and even recently invited him to a concert. Trump included a photo of Young in his office and partial images of documents as proof of his claim the singer recently asked him for money for "an audio deal:"


    Donald J. TrumpVerified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    .@Neilyoung A few months ago Neil Young came to my office looking for $$ on an audio deal & called me last week to go to his concert. Wow!
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    I don't see how he's a hypocrite at all. Just because Neil Young wanted to do business with Trump it doesn't mean he should be expected to okay him using his music for politics. The two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Limousine liberal and latte liberal are pejorative American political terms used to illustrate perceived hypocrisy by a political liberal of upper class or upper middle class status; including calls for the use of mass transit while frequently using limousines or private jets,[1] claiming environmental consciousness but driving low MPG sports cars or SUVs, or ostensibly supporting public education while actually sending their children to private schools.[2]

    "Limousine liberal" is a reference to celebrities who use their fame to influence others into agreeing with their political and societal points of view. Such celebrities' critics (including proponents of the pejorative) assert that their wealth and status keeps them out of touch with the American middle and lower middle classes they purport to support, and that they are typically blind to this disconnect.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759

    Limousine liberal and latte liberal are pejorative American political terms used to illustrate perceived hypocrisy by a political liberal of upper class or upper middle class status; including calls for the use of mass transit while frequently using limousines or private jets,[1] claiming environmental consciousness but driving low MPG sports cars or SUVs, or ostensibly supporting public education while actually sending their children to private schools.[2]

    "Limousine liberal" is a reference to celebrities who use their fame to influence others into agreeing with their political and societal points of view. Such celebrities' critics (including proponents of the pejorative) assert that their wealth and status keeps them out of touch with the American middle and lower middle classes they purport to support, and that they are typically blind to this disconnect.

    And? How does this relate to Neil Young doing business with Trump vs his music being used (without permission) for Trumps political campaign?
    Also, accusing people of not being capable of understanding something because them understanding doesn't serve your own agenda creates, what? A quadruple layered hypocrite cake?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,294
    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
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    Is this a telling pic of why there is no tour for 2015?
    Is there a photo out there of the lead singer of PJ doing this too?
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    Donald Pot needs to stop calling Neil Kettle black.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Of course! And plenty of CD's by my main man, Ted Nugent. YeeeeHaaaw! :smiley:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,294
    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
    I think it was pretty clear that Brian was joking and I was just adding to it, I wasn't attacking or saying anything negative about Kid Rock's character. Thank you for reminding me why that was the first time (and this is probably the last time) I've ever posted on AMT.
  • RiotZact said:

    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
    I think it was pretty clear that Brian was joking and I was just adding to it, I wasn't attacking or saying anything negative about Kid Rock's character. Thank you for reminding me why that was the first time (and this is probably the last time) I've ever posted on AMT.
    Pull up your socks man.
    No jokes allowed on AMT!
    Shits real here.
    Or is it?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    RiotZact said:

    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
    I think it was pretty clear that Brian was joking and I was just adding to it, I wasn't attacking or saying anything negative about Kid Rock's character. Thank you for reminding me why that was the first time (and this is probably the last time) I've ever posted on AMT.
    No, don't go! We need new voices here! I think we'd all agree that Kid Rock is an OK guy. Hells bells, if Sean Penn was able to have a good time doing a public service video with the Kid he must be OK, right? Heck, I even liked some of the Nug's early work as a musician even if I think his politics (which he should have just left in the can) pretty much suck.

    We're all good here, right? Hope you stick around, RiotZact! :smile:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    RiotZact said:

    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
    I think it was pretty clear that Brian was joking and I was just adding to it, I wasn't attacking or saying anything negative about Kid Rock's character. Thank you for reminding me why that was the first time (and this is probably the last time) I've ever posted on AMT.
    Need your views. Stick around and fire back.
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  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,294
    callen said:

    RiotZact said:

    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
    I think it was pretty clear that Brian was joking and I was just adding to it, I wasn't attacking or saying anything negative about Kid Rock's character. Thank you for reminding me why that was the first time (and this is probably the last time) I've ever posted on AMT.
    Need your views. Stick around and fire back.
    I don't really have anything to fire back, again it was just a joke. My view on the Donald topic is the same as everyone else's, him running for president is also a joke.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    RiotZact said:

    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
    I think it was pretty clear that Brian was joking and I was just adding to it, I wasn't attacking or saying anything negative about Kid Rock's character. Thank you for reminding me why that was the first time (and this is probably the last time) I've ever posted on AMT.
    I get jokes (and even make them!) - and my comment was neither personal nor nasty. Sorry it bothered you, but people do offer comments, replies and the like here.
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,294
    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
    I think it was pretty clear that Brian was joking and I was just adding to it, I wasn't attacking or saying anything negative about Kid Rock's character. Thank you for reminding me why that was the first time (and this is probably the last time) I've ever posted on AMT.
    I get jokes (and even make them!) - and my comment was neither personal nor nasty. Sorry it bothered you, but people do offer comments, replies and the like here.
    I agree it wasn't personal or nasty, it was just taking a joke and making it serious. And it didn't have anything to do with what I was saying. Brian was just joking that he was going to start acting in a conservative way, so I threw out a conservative music alternative to uncle Neil.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    RiotZact said:

    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    hedonist said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    Well that does it. I'm going to burn all my Neil Young records and git me a Hummer!

    Make sure it's the largest sized one and comes fully loaded with Kid Rock CDs!
    Kid Rock is a stand-up and talented guy who has done much from his end. Just sayin.
    I think it was pretty clear that Brian was joking and I was just adding to it, I wasn't attacking or saying anything negative about Kid Rock's character. Thank you for reminding me why that was the first time (and this is probably the last time) I've ever posted on AMT.
    I get jokes (and even make them!) - and my comment was neither personal nor nasty. Sorry it bothered you, but people do offer comments, replies and the like here.
    I agree it wasn't personal or nasty, it was just taking a joke and making it serious. And it didn't have anything to do with what I was saying. Brian was just joking that he was going to start acting in a conservative way, so I threw out a conservative music alternative to uncle Neil.
    Oy - it was a response to a response to a...well, you get it. This shit happens. No offense taken from here and hopefully you do stick around after your earlier comment.

    (and by the way...not sure Kid's music is considered conservative)
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