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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    edited April 2015
    Did Rev. Cortly Witherspoon just say that someone named Judge Renquist declared that running from the police is against the law? I just heard it on CNN. I hope somebody else heard that or knows what he's talking about because I dont.

    This guy is one of the protest organizers in Baltimore.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Anyone have any guesses on how this guy died in Baltimore?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,184

    Anyone have any guesses on how this guy died in Baltimore?

    Severed spine.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    Did Rev. Cortly Witherspoon just say that someone named Judge Renquist declared that running from the police is against the law? I just heard it on CNN. I hope somebody else heard that or knows what he's talking about because I dont.

    This guy is one of the protest organizers in Baltimore.

    Police have probable cause to detain anyone that runs when they show up in a "high crime area".
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661

    Anyone have any guesses on how this guy died in Baltimore?

    Severed spine.
    Ok, I should have been more specific. Any guesses on how his spine got severed?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    edited April 2015
    They gave the kid a rough ride probably in the back of one of those police Vans with out any seat belt or harness , I mean how else can you brake your spine on a ride in the back of police van ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

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  • rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



    No I hadn't.
    I don't see how much tactical advantage could be gained... The idea with crime is to not be engaged by police at all... Procedural knowledge is already pretty widely available.
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  • rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



    No I hadn't.
    I don't see how much tactical advantage could be gained... The idea with crime is to not be engaged by police at all... Procedural knowledge is already pretty widely available.
    An even more dubious individual may want to know procedures of police that encounter suspects so if they were in a position similar they would know what was coming and may give them a slight advantage of escape/evade.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



    No I hadn't.
    I don't see how much tactical advantage could be gained... The idea with crime is to not be engaged by police at all... Procedural knowledge is already pretty widely available.
    An even more dubious individual may want to know procedures of police that encounter suspects so if they were in a position similar they would know what was coming and may give them a slight advantage of escape/evade.

    I'd say such an individual has likely been exposed to the procedures of cops many times in their life.
    Even if this happens, I would say it is worth the risk to protectus from rogue officers.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



    No I hadn't.
    I don't see how much tactical advantage could be gained... The idea with crime is to not be engaged by police at all... Procedural knowledge is already pretty widely available.
    Wrong!!!! Suicide by cop happens almost daily in this country. Keep on trying
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



    No I hadn't.
    I don't see how much tactical advantage could be gained... The idea with crime is to not be engaged by police at all... Procedural knowledge is already pretty widely available.
    Wrong!!!! Suicide by cop happens almost daily in this country. Keep on trying
    And??? How is that relevant???
    If a person wants to commit suicide by cop they don't need to study videos for intel.
    On top of that, there are thousands of videos of police procedures already available all over the internet so I don't see how this would be much of an issue.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



    No I hadn't.
    I don't see how much tactical advantage could be gained... The idea with crime is to not be engaged by police at all... Procedural knowledge is already pretty widely available.
    Wrong!!!! Suicide by cop happens almost daily in this country. Keep on trying
    And??? How is that relevant???
    If a person wants to commit suicide by cop they don't need to study videos for intel.
    On top of that, there are thousands of videos of police procedures already available all over the internet so I don't see how this would be much of an issue.
    Not what I was getting at Rgambs…You said the idea of crime is not to engage the police at all…Well pointing a gun or rushing and attacking the police is a crime as much as liberal society does not want it to be.
  • muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?

    No I hadn't.
    I don't see how much tactical advantage could be gained... The idea with crime is to not be engaged by police at all... Procedural knowledge is already pretty widely available.
    Wrong!!!! Suicide by cop happens almost daily in this country. Keep on trying
    And??? How is that relevant???
    If a person wants to commit suicide by cop they don't need to study videos for intel.
    On top of that, there are thousands of videos of police procedures already available all over the internet so I don't see how this would be much of an issue.
    Not what I was getting at Rgambs…You said the idea of crime is not to engage the police at all…Well pointing a gun or rushing and attacking the police is a crime as much as liberal society does not want it to be.
    A crime to conservative society, who's offended by everything.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited April 2015

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



    I have and also thought of police being identified when they do covert operations.

    The police will have to adapt because the fundamental rights of being censored, as they do in China and Russia can't be a part of a free and civilized society.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

    This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

    Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.
    Have you ever entertained the thought that recorded video of police tactics and procedures may be studied by some dubious individuals to further their planning of a crime?



    No I hadn't.
    I don't see how much tactical advantage could be gained... The idea with crime is to not be engaged by police at all... Procedural knowledge is already pretty widely available.
    Wrong!!!! Suicide by cop happens almost daily in this country. Keep on trying
    And??? How is that relevant???
    If a person wants to commit suicide by cop they don't need to study videos for intel.
    On top of that, there are thousands of videos of police procedures already available all over the internet so I don't see how this would be much of an issue.
    Not what I was getting at Rgambs…You said the idea of crime is not to engage the police at all…Well pointing a gun or rushing and attacking the police is a crime as much as liberal society does not want it to be.
    Liberals don't want their police force that they rely on for protection and understand and appreciate what they do in daily based to be seriously hurt or killed.

    Being a police officer does though come with the bourdon of taking necessary response and there have been many instances in last few years, caught on camera that seems to show overstepping that line.

    Pretty simple in my mind that challenge is appropriate response to threat.

    I know it's hard at times in split second and give officers benefit of doubt but some instances are clear violations. They are very rare in totality.

    As to using camera recording police, we can not take away this fundamental right but we can also not have a civilian get in the way of an operation.
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  • But how long will the US be a "free and civilized society"? With these problems we're having and the talk of police shutting down the cell phone frequencies? We're already a conservative, fearful and on our way to a China and Russia type society.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661

    But how long will the US be a "free and civilized society"? With these problems we're having and the talk of police shutting down the cell phone frequencies? We're already a conservative, fearful and on our way to a China and Russia type society.

    Please explain to me how the police could jam a phone to prevent it from recording. If they could mess with the towers, it would prevent people from either making a call or connecting to the internet. But it wouldn't prevent people from recording unless laws were passed that make that illegal.

    Either way, we are not even close to being a Russia or China type society.
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