Police abuse

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rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.

I'm talking about the low life that was 5 feet from the cops making an arrest. Move your ass out of the way. That woman is just an attention whore. Every fucking arrest does NOT need to be recorded. It's absurd. She s was just looking to be the next person that gets to be interviewed on cnn. Fuck her.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If we are going to record police doing their jobs... I think it's fair we record every person doing theirs as well. Not to mention cameras on every street corner so we can record criminals too.

Let's catch white collar criminals plotting greedy plans and let's catch everyday workers logging into the 10C when they should be servicing clients (stealing time from their place of employment).

I really don't see the connection at all... Quite a stretch to compare agents of the government with lethal authority abusing their powers with everyday employees logging into websites.

The connection is blatantly obvious.

Do you fail to see the connection between your pot usage and some Mexican getting beheaded in Mexico as well?

badbrains

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If we are going to record police doing their jobs... I think it's fair we record every person doing theirs as well. Not to mention cameras on every street corner so we can record criminals too.

Let's catch white collar criminals plotting greedy plans and let's catch everyday workers logging into the 10C when they should be servicing clients (stealing time from their place of employment).

I really don't see the connection at all... Quite a stretch to compare agents of the government with lethal authority abusing their powers with everyday employees logging into websites.

The connection is blatantly obvious.

Do you fail to see the connection between your pot usage and some Mexican getting beheaded in Mexico as well?

If you buy Mexican pot in the states, you deserve to have your head cut off lol

rgambs

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.

I'm talking about the low life that was 5 feet from the cops making an arrest. Move your ass out of the way. That woman is just an attention whore. Every fucking arrest does NOT need to be recorded. It's absurd. She s was just looking to be the next person that gets to be interviewed on cnn. Fuck her.

When rights are being violated and your reaction is to be angry that the cops were busted, that says more about corruption in the brotherhood than a police critic ever could.

muskydan

badbrains said:

muskydan said:

badbrains said:

Wait till you see what LA police department has come up with. A device that shuts down all phone towers in a block so no one can record anything when police are involved. Who's protecting who?

Now I have heard it all. I am sure you got that Nonsence from a credible source.
There already is technology like that the military uses to help protect US soldiers in armpits like Somalia and most of the middle east.

Are you saying this doesn't exist? And you say you're a real cop? Shit, just google stingray device or Google anything related to "real" cops shutting down cell towers. And here we thought you're a know it all when it comes to cop related stuff. Maybe CSI hasn't covered that episode yet?

Haven't we already established I am phony for the hundredth time. And for the record I do not watch CSI, I prefer to get my material from Hank in Chicago PD.
Why don't you ask your Real Police friends in LA LA Land who you so often like to reference how intelligence uses these devices. I can assure you they don't use it for purposes you described above...heads would roll in today's day in age Son.

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If we are going to record police doing their jobs... I think it's fair we record every person doing theirs as well. Not to mention cameras on every street corner so we can record criminals too.

Let's catch white collar criminals plotting greedy plans and let's catch everyday workers logging into the 10C when they should be servicing clients (stealing time from their place of employment).

I really don't see the connection at all... Quite a stretch to compare agents of the government with lethal authority abusing their powers with everyday employees logging into websites.

The connection is blatantly obvious.

Do you fail to see the connection between your pot usage and some Mexican getting beheaded in Mexico as well?

Blatantly obvious? What a joke. Comparing the private and public sector, police abuse with time theft in an office... You are stretching more than a yogi.

This pot thing is a deflection and it's a pathetic one, with a personal jag to it.

1st, I don't smoke much... I have been nursing a bud smaller than my thumb for 10 months..I have a newborn son and wasn't keen on smoking around my pregnant wife.
2nd, I don't, haven't, wouldn't, and won't buy a bag of Mexican dirtweed. I smoke organic primo or not at all...fortunately it is pretty easy to come by, like Badbrains said.

So yeah, if you want to explain how it is blatantly obvious go ahead and try, if you want to keep deflecting try harder.

badbrains

muskydan said:

badbrains said:

muskydan said:

badbrains said:

Wait till you see what LA police department has come up with. A device that shuts down all phone towers in a block so no one can record anything when police are involved. Who's protecting who?

Now I have heard it all. I am sure you got that Nonsence from a credible source.
There already is technology like that the military uses to help protect US soldiers in armpits like Somalia and most of the middle east.

Are you saying this doesn't exist? And you say you're a real cop? Shit, just google stingray device or Google anything related to "real" cops shutting down cell towers. And here we thought you're a know it all when it comes to cop related stuff. Maybe CSI hasn't covered that episode yet?

Haven't we already established I am phony for the hundredth time. And for the record I do not watch CSI, I prefer to get my material from Hank in Chicago PD.
Why don't you ask your Real Police friends in LA LA Land who you so often like to reference how intelligence uses these devices. I can assure you they don't use it for purposes you described above...heads would roll in today's day in age Son.

Never said I had any LA cop friends. My cop friends live in dirty jersey. My gangsta friends live in LA, get the stories right dad.

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rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.

I'm talking about the low life that was 5 feet from the cops making an arrest. Move your ass out of the way. That woman is just an attention whore. Every fucking arrest does NOT need to be recorded. It's absurd. She s was just looking to be the next person that gets to be interviewed on cnn. Fuck her.

When rights are being violated and your reaction is to be angry that the cops were busted, that says more about corruption in the brotherhood than a police critic ever could.

I guess you are purposely missing my point. The stupid woman wouldn't have had her phone broken had she not decided to pull her phone out right next to cops that are making an arrest. She had no business being there. Period. Every fucking thing a cop does in his day to day operation does not need to be recorded by attention seeking whores.

rgambs

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.

I'm talking about the low life that was 5 feet from the cops making an arrest. Move your ass out of the way. That woman is just an attention whore. Every fucking arrest does NOT need to be recorded. It's absurd. She s was just looking to be the next person that gets to be interviewed on cnn. Fuck her.

When rights are being violated and your reaction is to be angry that the cops were busted, that says more about corruption in the brotherhood than a police critic ever could.

I guess you are purposely missing my point. The stupid woman wouldn't have had her phone broken had she not decided to pull her phone out right next to cops that are making an arrest. She had no business being there. Period. Every fucking thing a cop does in his day to day operation does not need to be recorded by attention seeking whores.

What a ridiculous assumption that she was an attention whore. There was a SWAT type operation going on in which they were detaining and releasing people.
You sound so pissed off about this, it's just nuts.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If we are going to record police doing their jobs... I think it's fair we record every person doing theirs as well. Not to mention cameras on every street corner so we can record criminals too.

Let's catch white collar criminals plotting greedy plans and let's catch everyday workers logging into the 10C when they should be servicing clients (stealing time from their place of employment).

I really don't see the connection at all... Quite a stretch to compare agents of the government with lethal authority abusing their powers with everyday employees logging into websites.

The connection is blatantly obvious.

Do you fail to see the connection between your pot usage and some Mexican getting beheaded in Mexico as well?

Blatantly obvious? What a joke. Comparing the private and public sector, police abuse with time theft in an office... You are stretching more than a yogi.

This pot thing is a deflection and it's a pathetic one, with a personal jag to it.

1st, I don't smoke much... I have been nursing a bud smaller than my thumb for 10 months..I have a newborn son and wasn't keen on smoking around my pregnant wife.
2nd, I don't, haven't, wouldn't, and won't buy a bag of Mexican dirtweed. I smoke organic primo or not at all...fortunately it is pretty easy to come by, like Badbrains said.

So yeah, if you want to explain how it is blatantly obvious go ahead and try, if you want to keep deflecting try harder.

I never limited it to office workers- I included every occupation. Why be selective?

And are you denying the interconnectivity between a consumer of the illegal drug trade and the violence associated with the illegal drug trade? Forget Mexico then... how about in the streets of Los Angeles or some other place?

You contribute more than you care to admit.

callen

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If we are going to record police doing their jobs... I think it's fair we record every person doing theirs as well. Not to mention cameras on every street corner so we can record criminals too.

Let's catch white collar criminals plotting greedy plans and let's catch everyday workers logging into the 10C when they should be servicing clients (stealing time from their place of employment).

There are cameras for other high risk occupations.

callen

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.

I'm talking about the low life that was 5 feet from the cops making an arrest. Move your ass out of the way. That woman is just an attention whore. Every fucking arrest does NOT need to be recorded. It's absurd. She s was just looking to be the next person that gets to be interviewed on cnn. Fuck her.

When rights are being violated and your reaction is to be angry that the cops were busted, that says more about corruption in the brotherhood than a police critic ever could.

I guess you are purposely missing my point. The stupid woman wouldn't have had her phone broken had she not decided to pull her phone out right next to cops that are making an arrest. She had no business being there. Period. Every fucking thing a cop does in his day to day operation does not need to be recorded by attention seeking whores.

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I get it. But damn, why do people feel the need to record EVERYTHING? These guys have enough to worry about with some dip shit standing there waiting for the next mistake. So yes, I say get a life. This person is harassing the cops. Do they not have rights?

This person is recording a violation of rights, if cops can't handle someone across the street holding a phone, they have no business in high-pressure life or death situations.

Your statement is tantamount to suggesting cops should have a right to impunity. If we can't record them and they investigate themselves that's exactly what it is, impunity at large.

I'm talking about the low life that was 5 feet from the cops making an arrest. Move your ass out of the way. That woman is just an attention whore. Every fucking arrest does NOT need to be recorded. It's absurd. She s was just looking to be the next person that gets to be interviewed on cnn. Fuck her.

When rights are being violated and your reaction is to be angry that the cops were busted, that says more about corruption in the brotherhood than a police critic ever could.

I guess you are purposely missing my point. The stupid woman wouldn't have had her phone broken had she not decided to pull her phone out right next to cops that are making an arrest. She had no business being there. Period. Every fucking thing a cop does in his day to day operation does not need to be recorded by attention seeking whores.

Agree people need to stay away from activity but we can not ever restrict anyone from taking pictures of anyone/thing in public space. Fundamental right. And if I was a cop would hate having my every move recorded and empathize with them. But rights trump and that's a good thing. We 're not in china or Russia.

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I don't think it's a fundamental right for someone to be nosy.

Edit: if that woman was across the street, out of the way like the person who recorded her, it wouldn't bother me at all.

callen

Last-12-Exit said:

I don't think it's a fundamental right for someone to be nosy.

Edit: if that woman was across the street, out of the way like the person who recorded her, it wouldn't bother me at all.

In public yes it absolutely is. Think of what you are proposing to give up.

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callen said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I don't think it's a fundamental right for someone to be nosy.

Edit: if that woman was across the street, out of the way like the person who recorded her, it wouldn't bother me at all.

In public yes it absolutely is. Think of what you are proposing to give up.

I'm not proposing to give up anything. I just don't think she needed to be in the way. Which she obviously was.

callen

Last-12-Exit said:

callen said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I don't think it's a fundamental right for someone to be nosy.

Edit: if that woman was across the street, out of the way like the person who recorded her, it wouldn't bother me at all.

In public yes it absolutely is. Think of what you are proposing to give up.

I'm not proposing to give up anything. I just don't think she needed to be in the way. Which she obviously was.

Agree.

dignin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

How can anyone argue against more transparency?

So we are in agreement then?

I think rgambs response has it covered.

Also, cops wearing cameras protects you, me and the cops. Same goes for the public recording cops.

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If we are going to record police doing their jobs... I think it's fair we record every person doing theirs as well. Not to mention cameras on every street corner so we can record criminals too.

Let's catch white collar criminals plotting greedy plans and let's catch everyday workers logging into the 10C when they should be servicing clients (stealing time from their place of employment).

I really don't see the connection at all... Quite a stretch to compare agents of the government with lethal authority abusing their powers with everyday employees logging into websites.

The connection is blatantly obvious.

Do you fail to see the connection between your pot usage and some Mexican getting beheaded in Mexico as well?

Blatantly obvious? What a joke. Comparing the private and public sector, police abuse with time theft in an office... You are stretching more than a yogi.

This pot thing is a deflection and it's a pathetic one, with a personal jag to it.

1st, I don't smoke much... I have been nursing a bud smaller than my thumb for 10 months..I have a newborn son and wasn't keen on smoking around my pregnant wife.
2nd, I don't, haven't, wouldn't, and won't buy a bag of Mexican dirtweed. I smoke organic primo or not at all...fortunately it is pretty easy to come by, like Badbrains said.

So yeah, if you want to explain how it is blatantly obvious go ahead and try, if you want to keep deflecting try harder.

I never limited it to office workers- I included every occupation. Why be selective?

And are you denying the interconnectivity between a consumer of the illegal drug trade and the violence associated with the illegal drug trade? Forget Mexico then... how about in the streets of Los Angeles or some other place?

You contribute more than you care to admit.

I contribute ZERO to gangs, cartels, or other shady groups of the like and that's a fact jack!

Thirty Bills Unpaid

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If we are going to record police doing their jobs... I think it's fair we record every person doing theirs as well. Not to mention cameras on every street corner so we can record criminals too.

Let's catch white collar criminals plotting greedy plans and let's catch everyday workers logging into the 10C when they should be servicing clients (stealing time from their place of employment).

I really don't see the connection at all... Quite a stretch to compare agents of the government with lethal authority abusing their powers with everyday employees logging into websites.

The connection is blatantly obvious.

Do you fail to see the connection between your pot usage and some Mexican getting beheaded in Mexico as well?

Blatantly obvious? What a joke. Comparing the private and public sector, police abuse with time theft in an office... You are stretching more than a yogi.

This pot thing is a deflection and it's a pathetic one, with a personal jag to it.

1st, I don't smoke much... I have been nursing a bud smaller than my thumb for 10 months..I have a newborn son and wasn't keen on smoking around my pregnant wife.
2nd, I don't, haven't, wouldn't, and won't buy a bag of Mexican dirtweed. I smoke organic primo or not at all...fortunately it is pretty easy to come by, like Badbrains said.

So yeah, if you want to explain how it is blatantly obvious go ahead and try, if you want to keep deflecting try harder.

I never limited it to office workers- I included every occupation. Why be selective?

And are you denying the interconnectivity between a consumer of the illegal drug trade and the violence associated with the illegal drug trade? Forget Mexico then... how about in the streets of Los Angeles or some other place?

You contribute more than you care to admit.

I contribute ZERO to gangs, cartels, or other shady groups of the like and that's a fact jack!

If you grow your own, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

If you buy it in a bag from some dude, I'd be of a different mindset. The illegal drug industry is built on offering it's product to consumers. Violence is associated with the production and distribution of illegal drugs. As such, the consumers are a part of the formula for the drug violence we experience.

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

If we are going to record police doing their jobs... I think it's fair we record every person doing theirs as well. Not to mention cameras on every street corner so we can record criminals too.

Let's catch white collar criminals plotting greedy plans and let's catch everyday workers logging into the 10C when they should be servicing clients (stealing time from their place of employment).

I really don't see the connection at all... Quite a stretch to compare agents of the government with lethal authority abusing their powers with everyday employees logging into websites.

The connection is blatantly obvious.

Do you fail to see the connection between your pot usage and some Mexican getting beheaded in Mexico as well?

Blatantly obvious? What a joke. Comparing the private and public sector, police abuse with time theft in an office... You are stretching more than a yogi.

This pot thing is a deflection and it's a pathetic one, with a personal jag to it.

1st, I don't smoke much... I have been nursing a bud smaller than my thumb for 10 months..I have a newborn son and wasn't keen on smoking around my pregnant wife.
2nd, I don't, haven't, wouldn't, and won't buy a bag of Mexican dirtweed. I smoke organic primo or not at all...fortunately it is pretty easy to come by, like Badbrains said.

So yeah, if you want to explain how it is blatantly obvious go ahead and try, if you want to keep deflecting try harder.

I never limited it to office workers- I included every occupation. Why be selective?

And are you denying the interconnectivity between a consumer of the illegal drug trade and the violence associated with the illegal drug trade? Forget Mexico then... how about in the streets of Los Angeles or some other place?

You contribute more than you care to admit.

I contribute ZERO to gangs, cartels, or other shady groups of the like and that's a fact jack!

If you grow your own, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

If you buy it in a bag from some dude, I'd be of a different mindset. The illegal drug industry is built on offering it's product to consumers. Violence is associated with the production and distribution of illegal drugs. As such, the consumers are a part of the formula for the drug violence we experience.

There is a pretty big middle ground between those two options!
Ahhhh the good old days lol