So the Co-Pilot...

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
    We don't know this and if pilot did do this flying a plane nose first into a mountain isn't cowardly. Committing suicide isn't cowardly. Mental sure.
    I disagree with you about suicide not being cowardly. But that's a different thread.
    It's cowardly in a way, but intrepid in a way as well. I don't care for the tendancy to label murderers as cowards, it just isn't good use of language. There are plenty of expletives to use.
    I prefer to use the term 'mutantish'.
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  • rgambs
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
    We don't know this and if pilot did do this flying a plane nose first into a mountain isn't cowardly. Committing suicide isn't cowardly. Mental sure.
    I disagree with you about suicide not being cowardly. But that's a different thread.
    It's cowardly in a way, but intrepid in a way as well. I don't care for the tendancy to label murderers as cowards, it just isn't good use of language. There are plenty of expletives to use.
    I prefer to use the term 'mutantish'.
    I fully believe is "ishing" any word.
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    edited March 2015
    jervin007 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    Lots of people are speculating lots of things. I find it crazy that this seems to have happened due to a safety measure that was introduced after 9-11 to protect the cockpit from being entered by people who wanna take over.

    It is a sad tragedy all around, for everybody involved. I hope they find out soon what exactly happened.

    I read that in the U.S there always have to be two people in the cockpit at all times post 9-11. This wasn't the case in Europe. Hopefully that will change after the tragic event
    I think it usually is the same in Europe. Maybe Germanwings had a different rule about this, I don't know. And I am sure things will change. They always do after something like this happened. It just sucks that people have to die like that before the system gets another improvement.

    Edit: just reading up a bit, it seems Lufthansa was definitely ok with only one person in the cockpit, and there is no such rule like the one in the US in Germany. And apparently other countries either.
    Post edited by Leezestarr313 on
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited March 2015
    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding

    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.

  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited March 2015
    Cal,
    Taking hundreds of others with you who didn't want to die.Yeah he's a fuckin coward.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    rgambs said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
    We don't know this and if pilot did do this flying a plane nose first into a mountain isn't cowardly. Committing suicide isn't cowardly. Mental sure.
    I disagree with you about suicide not being cowardly. But that's a different thread.
    It's cowardly in a way, but intrepid in a way as well. I don't care for the tendancy to label murderers as cowards, it just isn't good use of language. There are plenty of expletives to use.
    I prefer to use the term 'mutantish'.
    I fully believe is "ishing" any word.
    Ishing has lots of uses.Squishing is one of my favs
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    why has this mass murder not been labeled a terror attack yet?

    oh yeah, he wasn't muslim.
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    It's not like the conspiracy folks are not saying anything. All kinds of theories are out there.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    why has this mass murder not been labeled a terror attack yet?

    oh yeah, he wasn't muslim.

    Took the words right out of my mouth
  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    badbrains said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    why has this mass murder not been labeled a terror attack yet?

    oh yeah, he wasn't muslim.

    Took the words right out of my mouth
    I think it has more to do with the co-pilot apparently acting alone, and it wasn't a politically or religiously motivated attack. ISIS isn't going to claim responsibility. I agree it was more like mass murder - or a mass murder-suicide. Hopefully they find some answers in those boxes they removed from his apartment.
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,967
    edited March 2015
    if you want to die,die..but taking with you all those people, for me its a murder..
    and ofcourse the company who let him drive the plain..
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
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  • eddiec
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    gimmesometruth27 said:

    why has this mass murder not been labeled a terror attack yet?

    oh yeah, he wasn't muslim.

    He would have to be a terrorist, religion aside, to label it as a terror attack.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    Reports copilot had stopped training because he was depressed ...
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    German newspaper says they found sick leave notices in his apartment. Ripped apart and also from the day of the crash.
    Lots of arilines have already changed their guidelines too, and now require two people in the cockpit at all tmes.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    23scidoo said:

    if you want to die,die..but taking with you all those people, for me its a murder..
    and ofcourse the company who let him drive the plain..

    I'm not sold on the company being to blame. It's nearly impossible to know if a guy is suicidal. Hell, police departments do psych evals before hiring and people get by.
  • oftenreading
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    Last-12-Exit said:

    23scidoo said:

    if you want to die,die..but taking with you all those people, for me its a murder..
    and ofcourse the company who let him drive the plain..

    I'm not sold on the company being to blame. It's nearly impossible to know if a guy is suicidal. Hell, police departments do psych evals before hiring and people get by.
    I agree. We can't predict absolutely everything, and most people who have an episode of depression will be able to go on to work just fine. Of course, one could argue that the stakes are so much higher for a commercial airline pilot that they need to weed everyone out with any risks, but that won't leave very many people at all. We can't control all risk, and when we try to there are real and significant consequences in other ways.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2015
    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
    We don't know this and if pilot did do this flying a plane nose first into a mountain isn't cowardly. Committing suicide isn't cowardly. Mental sure.
    I totally agree. I think this "coward" label stuck onto terrorists or mass murderers (or bank robbers, whatever) is completely inaccurate. It actually takes a lot of balls to do anything like that. That's not meant to compliment them. They are fucking evil lunatics. But they aren't cowards.
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  • Dirtie_Frank
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    I disagree, terrorists and mass murders are cowards. If they had balls they would go after people who can fight back. They target unsuspecting people without the means to defend against their attack.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2015
    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I disagree, terrorists and mass murders are cowards. If they had balls they would go after people who can fight back. They target unsuspecting people without the means to defend against their attack.

    I guess we disagree on the definition of coward.
    I don't believe there is anyway a coward could fly a plane into a mountain or go through the process of getting onto a plane and take a crew hostage or hold up a crowded bank.
    I feel like this "coward" label specifically for violent criminals was kind of invented by the media just because it's an easy thing for the masses to understand and despise. It's easier to call them cowards than it is to dig deeper to the real reasons behind their crimes, which are psychological, sociological, political, COMPLICATED. It's basically a dumbing down of criminal violence so that no one has to think too hard about the real reasons behind their actions IMHO... and this is actually harmful to us all. If we just boil it down to cowardice, there is no reason to explore the very complicated issues that need to be addressed in order to prevent future tragedies.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited March 2015
    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I disagree, terrorists and mass murders are cowards. If they had balls they would go after people who can fight back. They target unsuspecting people without the means to defend against their attack.

    Bingo! Face your problems.Dont take the easy way out like a COWARD and take a bunch of others with you.Facing your problems,manning up ,and working toward resolution.that takes courage.Fighting back in the face of adversity is brave and takes moxy.

    Quitting and pulling the plug that's for losers and Cowards.

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