So the Co-Pilot...

SPEEDY MCCREADY
SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,857
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Intentionally brought down that plane?

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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    edited March 2015
    indeed
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    so sad.
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    Lots of people are speculating lots of things. I find it crazy that this seems to have happened due to a safety measure that was introduced after 9-11 to protect the cockpit from being entered by people who wanna take over.

    It is a sad tragedy all around, for everybody involved. I hope they find out soon what exactly happened.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Much speculation indeed. Heard that if this plane was even equipped with the security keypad outside of the cockpit, whomever is inside can override it (presumably for safety reasons as well).

    Regardless of whatever comes to light, the screams of the passengers are beyond heartbreaking.
  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    I think I read somewhere that there is a video out there where you can hear them - so that is really true? This is awful. So awful. Why would anybody publish something like that?
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    There are so many things in life where we trust each other with our lives. We leave ourselves vulnerable in so many situations. If one was to consume themselves with fear for the leap of faith we take every day doing everyday things... one would go mad. Things can go very badly doing almost anything when some scumbag asserts his madness.

    I feel horribly for those people- a horrific end to their lives. I feel nothing for that loser.

    And for me... another event to consider when nervously flying.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    The Canadian government just announced that all Canadian airlines will now require two people in the cockpit at all times starting today.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Unreal. I hope the dude didn't just snap and decide to end it with 160 other people on board. I'd like to think he was in there just have a seizure. It's hard to think that a pilot would do that on purpose. But the SPECULATION and a French prosecutor is saying otherwise.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2015
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Unreal. I hope the dude didn't just snap and decide to end it with 160 other people on board. I'd like to think he was in there just have a seizure. It's hard to think that a pilot would do that on purpose. But the SPECULATION and a French prosecutor is saying otherwise.

    Apparently it was a controlled and steady descent, and not what a plane would do if someone was just incapacitated and not controlling the plane properly. Looks like it really was on purpose.
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  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    creepiest part I read was that he was dead silent. his breathing didn't even change. no fear, anxiety, nervousness, he just calmly and systematically went splat against the mountain. just heartbreaking.
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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    edited March 2015
    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    Post edited by Leezestarr313 on
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited March 2015
    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,857
    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
    It sure as hell is leaning towards mass murder.



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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    hedonist said:

    Much speculation indeed. Heard that if this plane was even equipped with the security keypad outside of the cockpit, whomever is inside can override it (presumably for safety reasons as well).

    Supposedly on the cockpit recording, the pilot can be heart trying to use the security keypad. This whole thing just seems beyond bizarre. I don't think there's any way to make sense of it.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
    We don't know this and if pilot did do this flying a plane nose first into a mountain isn't cowardly. Committing suicide isn't cowardly. Mental sure.
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  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    Just read the autopilot was manually reprogrammed to descend to 100 feet. Doesn't sound like an accident from a lot of the reports coming out. Very sad.
  • kce8
    kce8 Posts: 1,636
    edited March 2015
    I can´t believe it.
    It´one thing if something like this is happening anywhere in the world, but when the pilot was born in your area it is getting a complete different meaning.
    His parents will have to live with that like all the other familys and friends...till the rest of their lifes...and they maybe will feel guilty for the rest of their lifes...

    This is so unbelievable...
    I´m still hoping for another reason to be the truth, a tragic accident...but sadly this will not happen...
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
    We don't know this and if pilot did do this flying a plane nose first into a mountain isn't cowardly. Committing suicide isn't cowardly. Mental sure.
    I disagree with you about suicide not being cowardly. But that's a different thread.
  • jervin007
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    Leezestarr313 said:

    Lots of people are speculating lots of things. I find it crazy that this seems to have happened due to a safety measure that was introduced after 9-11 to protect the cockpit from being entered by people who wanna take over.

    It is a sad tragedy all around, for everybody involved. I hope they find out soon what exactly happened.

    I read that in the U.S there always have to be two people in the cockpit at all times post 9-11. This wasn't the case in Europe. Hopefully that will change after the tragic event
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  • rgambs
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    Last-12-Exit said:

    callen said:

    rr165892 said:

    Leezestarr313 said:

    According to a German newspaper, there could be different scenarios besides the co-pilot being on a suicide trip.
    Apparently, there was another incident with an airbus in november 2014 in Spain, where a similar scenario was happening... Sensors froze and resulted in a miscalculation in the flight computer.

    Sudden loss of cabin pressure

    poisonous fumes in the cabin

    dangerous luggage, like suddenly exploding batteries

    terror attack

    Hopefully, they will fully resolve this.




    This was no accident.this shit is mass murder.Fucking Coward.
    We don't know this and if pilot did do this flying a plane nose first into a mountain isn't cowardly. Committing suicide isn't cowardly. Mental sure.
    I disagree with you about suicide not being cowardly. But that's a different thread.
    It's cowardly in a way, but intrepid in a way as well. I don't care for the tendancy to label murderers as cowards, it just isn't good use of language. There are plenty of expletives to use.
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