I disagree with this article on obesity..Whats your opinion?

callen said:

Damn foods cheap in your neck of the woods. 99 cents for 5lbs potatoes? Frozen veggies, tomatoes etc. I need to move. Lettuce no nutritional value. Bad food is cheaper period. Processed created from corn by products will always be cheaper than fresh fruit and veggies. White enriched flour will always be cheaper than good whole grain bread. And cereal etc etc.

Come on Speedy what's really bugging you. It's the people with the Link cards. Come clean. I know lots of affluent fat white lazy people

Humans are lazy, poor , minority , whites, rich. All humans get endorphin rush from sugars and grease.

What's your real beef ?

eddiec said:

Last-12-Exit said:

paulonious said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Lack of accountability.

The article takes fat people off the hooks for poor choices and poor lifestyles.

Dignin... the article you referenced offers reasons why people have failed to develop a healthy home life. The reasons are legitimate, but not excuses by any stretch of the imagination. It does require effort to maintain a healthy lifestyle, but it is far from impossible.

Pizzas tastes awesome. Cheeseburgers taste great. Way better than stew in the slow cooker and easier and quicker to get in my stomach as well. However, that food is horrible for me with disastrous consequences for me and like every other simple fool out there... I understand this.

I still recall waiting on a plane and watching an obese couple with their obeses 5 year old waddling into the cabin- wheezing from their efforts. Fukin idiots. It's one thing to become an obese pig yourself.. it's quite another to allow your 5 year old son to become one too. I wanted to slap both of them. As far as I was concerned, these two losers had committed a crime.

try not to judge too harshly. there very well may be extenuating circumstances that you aren't aware of. many other health conditions (that are hereditary) cause people to gain weight at an alarming rate. as do many medications.

now, it's different if you see that same family in the grocery store filling their cart with nothing but cheesy poofs and coke.

while it also sickens me when I see a child that is fat, and really, what fucking excuse is there for a fat child, save for things I mentioned, there could very well be other issues at play.

it's also not simply diet. mainly, but not entirely.

while the video game craze/sedentary lifestyle came into being in my youth, I still spent the majority of my spring/summer/fall outdoors on my bike or running or whathaveyou. my parents simply did not allow me to spend more than x amount of time in front of the tv. why? my mom was home. that's rare now. supervision of teens/pre-teens is at an all time low.

not only that; video games and the like used to be an exclusively young person activity. now that those people have grown up, so have the games, and thus, people can and do make their own terrible choices of sitting and playing video games for 12 hours and eating pizza and chips and pepsi without fear of reprisal. and don't get me started on binge tv watching. people who do that aren't eating bags of broccoli while they watch a season of Dexter in a day.

we need to unplug as a society.

Sounds more like excuses. Sure, some people may have conditions that prevent them from losing weight. But that certainly doesn't mean they can't eat healthy. Exercise is cheap. It cost nothing to walk a mile a day. Or do 50 pushups and situps a night.

Situps don't make you lose weight.
I realize there has to be some accountability but people in the low income classification have so many problems in their lives that food choices unfortunately take a back seat and this leads to the obesity problem. I'm much more shocked when I see white middle class people unhealthy and overweight. They have the resources and education to do something about it. But if you're growing up in a drug infested dead end neighborhood then eating healthy is far down the list of priorities. And there is often no parental guidance in these areas as most of the parents are really children themselves. Plus, people are getting very rich making people fat. It's a hard cycle to break.

Last-12-Exit said:

rgambs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I agree that the junk food is somewhat addicting. But it's not nicotine. And it sure as hell not heroin.

Of course it took 30 for America to realize that smoking is bad for you and there are plenty of people still smoking.

Actually, it's exactly like heroin. The difference is, it is widely available to children and they even advertise it to children in the US.
http://m.mic.com/articles/88015/what-happens-to-your-brain-on-sugar-explained-by-science

No, it is not. That's just silly.

callen said:

We all crave the hit. Be it sex, cars, music, drugs jewelry etc. For many that have limited choices to get the Hit they turn to that surgery drink. Rather than that bowl of grass. Add the very effective marketing machines incredible knowledge of the human brain, it's no wonder we as a nation are overweight.

It's so easy to judge. Harder to have empathy to see reason humans are the way they are. Guess therapy for some to express their perceived superiority.

hedonist said:

To be clear, my questioning the choices some make to NOT educate themselves isn't equatable to my feeling or thinking I'm above anyone (nor does anyone need to prove their empathetic side).

Talk about judging. Sheesh!

Last-12-Exit said:

eddiec said:

Last-12-Exit said:

paulonious said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Lack of accountability.

The article takes fat people off the hooks for poor choices and poor lifestyles.

Dignin... the article you referenced offers reasons why people have failed to develop a healthy home life. The reasons are legitimate, but not excuses by any stretch of the imagination. It does require effort to maintain a healthy lifestyle, but it is far from impossible.

Pizzas tastes awesome. Cheeseburgers taste great. Way better than stew in the slow cooker and easier and quicker to get in my stomach as well. However, that food is horrible for me with disastrous consequences for me and like every other simple fool out there... I understand this.

I still recall waiting on a plane and watching an obese couple with their obeses 5 year old waddling into the cabin- wheezing from their efforts. Fukin idiots. It's one thing to become an obese pig yourself.. it's quite another to allow your 5 year old son to become one too. I wanted to slap both of them. As far as I was concerned, these two losers had committed a crime.

try not to judge too harshly. there very well may be extenuating circumstances that you aren't aware of. many other health conditions (that are hereditary) cause people to gain weight at an alarming rate. as do many medications.

now, it's different if you see that same family in the grocery store filling their cart with nothing but cheesy poofs and coke.

while it also sickens me when I see a child that is fat, and really, what fucking excuse is there for a fat child, save for things I mentioned, there could very well be other issues at play.

it's also not simply diet. mainly, but not entirely.

while the video game craze/sedentary lifestyle came into being in my youth, I still spent the majority of my spring/summer/fall outdoors on my bike or running or whathaveyou. my parents simply did not allow me to spend more than x amount of time in front of the tv. why? my mom was home. that's rare now. supervision of teens/pre-teens is at an all time low.

not only that; video games and the like used to be an exclusively young person activity. now that those people have grown up, so have the games, and thus, people can and do make their own terrible choices of sitting and playing video games for 12 hours and eating pizza and chips and pepsi without fear of reprisal. and don't get me started on binge tv watching. people who do that aren't eating bags of broccoli while they watch a season of Dexter in a day.

we need to unplug as a society.

Sounds more like excuses. Sure, some people may have conditions that prevent them from losing weight. But that certainly doesn't mean they can't eat healthy. Exercise is cheap. It cost nothing to walk a mile a day. Or do 50 pushups and situps a night.

Situps don't make you lose weight.
I realize there has to be some accountability but people in the low income classification have so many problems in their lives that food choices unfortunately take a back seat and this leads to the obesity problem. I'm much more shocked when I see white middle class people unhealthy and overweight. They have the resources and education to do something about it. But if you're growing up in a drug infested dead end neighborhood then eating healthy is far down the list of priorities. And there is often no parental guidance in these areas as most of the parents are really children themselves. Plus, people are getting very rich making people fat. It's a hard cycle to break.

Again, you're making excuses for people. I am well aware of circumstances that don't allow people to eats fruits and vegetables with every meal. But staying in shape with simple calisthenics do make you lose weight. And doesn't cost a dime.

Not every person living below the poverty line is over weight.

Last-12-Exit said:

callen said:

We all crave the hit. Be it sex, cars, music, drugs jewelry etc. For many that have limited choices to get the Hit they turn to that surgery drink. Rather than that bowl of grass. Add the very effective marketing machines incredible knowledge of the human brain, it's no wonder we as a nation are overweight.

It's so easy to judge. Harder to have empathy to see reason humans are the way they are. Guess therapy for some to express their perceived superiority.

So because I make the decision to eat healthy and hold people accountable for the decisions they make without making excuses for them, I need therapy for my superiority complex?

I don't need spoon fed. Neither do people that live in poverty. You know, I know, the poor knows what's good for you and what's not. You don't need to spend 12 years in school to figure that out.