Regal and other theatres pull "The Interview"

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  • wall232
    wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    Idris wrote: »
    Jason P wrote: »
    Even Obama is calling Sony out for being a bunch of wussies.

    "I wish [Sony] had spoken to me first. I would have told them do not get into a pattern where you're intimidated by these kinds of criminal attacks."

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-sony-made-a-mistake-2014-12#ixzz3MNHm341X

    What do you mean 'even'...Obama? Cause Obama is a wuss himself?...So, 'even obama (a wuss) is calling sony out for being 'wussies'.



    I think you're reading way to much into his use of the word "even"
    NYPJ
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited December 2014
    The bolded parts are exactly what I've been trying to say this entire thread. It's common sense to not go after a dangerous dictator and explore the idea of assassinating him as American entertainment. I swear that half of America most likely does not have this so-called common sense, the least being Seth Rogan and Whatshisface.

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/ejmontini/2014/12/19/the-interview-north-korea-sony-pictures/20647475/
    We're all outraged at the hacking of Sony Pictures; and we'll all concerned with the national security implications; and we're all expecting the government to launch some form of cyber retaliation or to increase sanctions on North Korea, which they say is behind the hacking, but …

    … is making a movie about the assassination of the living, breathing leader of a nation – even that nation – ever a good idea?

    One of the best movies of the 1970s was called "Day of the Jackal," which told the story of an assassin plotting to kill Charles de Gaulle, the president of France. When the movie was released, however, de Gaulle had been dead for three years.

    In 2009 director Quentin Tarantino released "Inglourious Basterds," the fictional story of U.S. soldiers in World War II on a mission to assassinate Nazi leaders, including Hitler. The war had been over for more than 50 years.

    There was a British film in 2006, a "mockumentary" (fake documentary) called "Death of a President" about the fictional aftermath following the assassination of George W. Bush.

    It was an awful idea (and I don't recall that it did great a the box office.) But Bush was still in office, and it's not as if a president already is threatened by innumerable kooks.

    Still, the U.S. didn't launch a cyber attack on the filmmaker's company.

    News reports indicate that the attack on Sony, conducted by hackers calling themselves "Guardians of Peace," was the worst ever attack on a company in the United States and that North Korea is behind it.

    Embarrassing emails were released, and other company documents, and there were threats, which caused Sony to cancel the release of "The Interview," a comic film that is said to culminate in a scene depicting the assassination of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    As Eric Talmadge, the Associated Press's North Korea bureau chief put it, "If the U.S. government's claim is correct that North Korea was involved in the unprecedented hack attack on Sony Pictures that scuttled Seth Rogen's latest comedy, no one can say they weren't warned. The movie, 'The Interview,' pushed all of North Korea's buttons.

    "No country would welcome a movie portraying the glib and graphic assassination of its leader.

    "But nowhere could it be expected to generate more official outrage and possible reprisals than in North Korea, home to the world's most intense cult of personality, where even the hint of criticism of the ruling Kim dynasty can mean a long stint in prison and where it's a serious offense to merely crumple up a newspaper with any of the leaders' images."


    The Sony attack is a wake-up call to the vulnerability of the Internet – for all of us.

    It's a national security issue.

    It's also a free speech issue.

    Lots of American entertainers have made fun of Kim Jong Un.

    We get to say what we want to say in this country. And we should defend that right with all of the weapons we possess – technological and otherwise.

    But how about a little common sense along the way?

    I like a goofy slapstick comedy as much as the next guy.

    But killing the head of state of another nation?

    Not funny.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    wall232 wrote: »
    Idris wrote: »
    Jason P wrote: »
    Even Obama is calling Sony out for being a bunch of wussies.

    "I wish [Sony] had spoken to me first. I would have told them do not get into a pattern where you're intimidated by these kinds of criminal attacks."

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-sony-made-a-mistake-2014-12#ixzz3MNHm341X

    What do you mean 'even'...Obama? Cause Obama is a wuss himself?...So, 'even obama (a wuss) is calling sony out for being 'wussies'.



    I think you're reading way to much into his use of the word "even"

    Really? I thought it was a smartly loaded 'even' by JasonP. I'm kinda bummed now.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    The bolded parts are exactly what I've been trying to say this entire thread. It's common sense to not go after a dangerous dictator and explore the idea of assassinating him as American entertainment. I swear that half of America most likely does not have this so-called common sense, the least being Seth Rogan and Whatshisface.

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/ejmontini/2014/12/19/the-interview-north-korea-sony-pictures/20647475/
    We're all outraged at the hacking of Sony Pictures; and we'll all concerned with the national security implications; and we're all expecting the government to launch some form of cyber retaliation or to increase sanctions on North Korea, which they say is behind the hacking, but …

    … is making a movie about the assassination of the living, breathing leader of a nation – even that nation – ever a good idea?

    One of the best movies of the 1970s was called "Day of the Jackal," which told the story of an assassin plotting to kill Charles de Gaulle, the president of France. When the movie was released, however, de Gaulle had been dead for three years.

    In 2009 director Quentin Tarantino released "Inglourious Basterds," the fictional story of U.S. soldiers in World War II on a mission to assassinate Nazi leaders, including Hitler. The war had been over for more than 50 years.

    There was a British film in 2006, a "mockumentary" (fake documentary) called "Death of a President" about the fictional aftermath following the assassination of George W. Bush.

    It was an awful idea (and I don't recall that it did great a the box office.) But Bush was still in office, and it's not as if a president already is threatened by innumerable kooks.

    Still, the U.S. didn't launch a cyber attack on the filmmaker's company.

    News reports indicate that the attack on Sony, conducted by hackers calling themselves "Guardians of Peace," was the worst ever attack on a company in the United States and that North Korea is behind it.

    Embarrassing emails were released, and other company documents, and there were threats, which caused Sony to cancel the release of "The Interview," a comic film that is said to culminate in a scene depicting the assassination of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    As Eric Talmadge, the Associated Press's North Korea bureau chief put it, "If the U.S. government's claim is correct that North Korea was involved in the unprecedented hack attack on Sony Pictures that scuttled Seth Rogen's latest comedy, no one can say they weren't warned. The movie, 'The Interview,' pushed all of North Korea's buttons.

    "No country would welcome a movie portraying the glib and graphic assassination of its leader.

    "But nowhere could it be expected to generate more official outrage and possible reprisals than in North Korea, home to the world's most intense cult of personality, where even the hint of criticism of the ruling Kim dynasty can mean a long stint in prison and where it's a serious offense to merely crumple up a newspaper with any of the leaders' images."


    The Sony attack is a wake-up call to the vulnerability of the Internet – for all of us.

    It's a national security issue.

    It's also a free speech issue.

    Lots of American entertainers have made fun of Kim Jong Un.

    We get to say what we want to say in this country. And we should defend that right with all of the weapons we possess – technological and otherwise.

    But how about a little common sense along the way?

    I like a goofy slapstick comedy as much as the next guy.

    But killing the head of state of another nation?

    Not funny.

    This is ridiculous. Common sense in a movie? Seriously? It's a movie. 100% fake. It's a script made up entirely by writers. I can't even imagine how many worse movies there are out about killing a political figure in another country or the US.

    Sony needs to man up and release this stupid movie. Nothing is going to happen. Except more of Sony's personal info being leaked. Which will happen anyway.
  • I'm not saying North Korea should show the movie in their country. If they don't like it fine, don't show it, like the above mentioned UK film wasn't released here. Saying we shouldn't release it here at home out of fear, is absurd. North Korea's response to a stupid fucking movie is over the top. Again, I really believe their decision not to release it has everything to do with how much financial damage can be done to sony and not a fucking thing to do with people's safety.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    I'm not saying North Korea should show the movie in their country. If they don't like it fine, don't show it, like the above mentioned UK film wasn't released here. Saying we shouldn't release it here at home out of fear, is absurd. North Korea's response to a stupid fucking movie is over the top. Again, I really believe their decision not to release it has everything to do with how much financial damage can be done to sony and not a fucking thing to do with people's safety.

    I agree.
  • Well, some people just don't have that common sense then. They live in a bubble where they think that they can assimilate assassinations of whomever they want without recourse and use the word "comedy" as if it's an excuse to getting away with it. Kind of like that saying "There's truth behind every joke". Well, the joke's on Sony now, isn't it? As well as the ridiculous American public whining about a terrible movie that they don't get to see.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Well, some people just don't have that common sense then. They live in a bubble where they think that they can assimilate assassinations of whomever they want without recourse and use the word "comedy" as if it's an excuse to getting away with it. Kind of like that saying "There's truth behind every joke". Well, the joke's on Sony now, isn't it? As well as the ridiculous American public whining about a terrible movie that they don't get to see.

    I agree.
  • I get your point about the casual way movies can touch on some serious subjects/threats. I just can't make the leap as a rational person that a work of fiction is dangerous. Should they not have made the movie White House Down because it depicted an attempted government overthrow? I mean cmon! It's make believe! How many movies have involved all kinds of terrorist plots etc...caving to some looney toon dictator in an oppressive country is baffling to me. Am I allowed to express my opinion of Lil' Kim? Should I be afraid to walk down the street for wishing somebody would clip this guy already? Think of the conditions people live in there and tell me the world wouldn't be a better place without that regime?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I cant believe this thread is still going and some folks are so passionate about such a silly topic...meanwhile the banksters screwed us again and....crickets....
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    Idris wrote: »
    Jason P wrote: »
    Even Obama is calling Sony out for being a bunch of wussies.

    "I wish [Sony] had spoken to me first. I would have told them do not get into a pattern where you're intimidated by these kinds of criminal attacks."

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-sony-made-a-mistake-2014-12#ixzz3MNHm341X

    What do you mean 'even'...Obama? Cause Obama is a wuss himself?...So, 'even obama (a wuss) is calling sony out for being 'wussies'.



    No. I wasn't slamming Mr. Obama. He said what a POTUS should have said.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,302
    rgambs wrote: »
    I cant believe this thread is still going and some folks are so passionate about such a silly topic...meanwhile the banksters screwed us again and....crickets....

    I don't think that a hermit nation imposing will against the first amendment is silly. It sets a precedent as noted with the Billy Madison reference above.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Ah, alright. Too bad. I like to see war criminal hypocrites called out.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Once again, I don't live in a bubble. I don't care if it's a good or a bad movie. This isn't the first movie ever made about killing world leader. Bowing down to terrorists is the absurd part of this. Its just a movie.

  • You do. Because you think that you can imply a message whether offensive or not, and hide behind the "it's a movie" excuse. There's messages everywhere, regardless if they're in a fictional movie, an advertisement, or in a joke (or anywhere else for that matter). And this one just happened to be about the death of the wrong guy.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Once again, I don't live in a bubble. I don't care if it's a good or a bad movie. This isn't the first movie ever made about killing world leader. Bowing down to terrorists is the absurd part of this. Its just a movie.

    Yep!
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    But not sure about that last point of yours,

    Bowing down to terrorists is the absurd part of this. Its just a movie.

    I mean, today at work I came across many many many people talking about this, "how dare they not show the movie" "the terrorists won!"...I mean come on,

    NSA spying, Patriot act, all in the guise of protecting our freedoms, we stay fairly silent, but touch our mindless cinema...'oh helllzzz no!'

    Just, funny to me. Maybe more sad than funny. (Most of my post was general and not directed towards you 'Last-12)

  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    You do. Because you think that you can imply a message whether offensive or not, and hide behind the "it's a movie" excuse. There's messages everywhere, regardless if they're in a fictional movie, an advertisement, or in a joke (or anywhere else for that matter). And this one just happened to be about the death of the wrong guy.

    Actually it is about the death of the right guy. Are you telling me we can't say anything or do anything here in this country that might offend that crazy little piece of shit? Why are we worried about the dear leader's feelings? Sony doesn't speak for us anyway. Had Sony actually released the movie, we could have agreed or disagreed with their decision by choosing whether or not we saw it.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Anyone know Kim-Jongs 10 club #.Cmon You know he has one.Hell he's friends with Rodman.I personally think he should get the ban.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    edited December 2014
    jeffbr wrote: »
    You do. Because you think that you can imply a message whether offensive or not, and hide behind the "it's a movie" excuse. There's messages everywhere, regardless if they're in a fictional movie, an advertisement, or in a joke (or anywhere else for that matter). And this one just happened to be about the death of the wrong guy.

    Are you telling me we can't say anything or do anything here in this country that might offend that crazy little piece of shit? Why are we worried about the dear leader's feelings? Sony doesn't speak for us anyway. Had Sony actually released the movie, we could have agreed or disagreed with their decision by choosing whether or not we saw it.

    Absolutely!
  • jeffbr wrote: »
    You do. Because you think that you can imply a message whether offensive or not, and hide behind the "it's a movie" excuse. There's messages everywhere, regardless if they're in a fictional movie, an advertisement, or in a joke (or anywhere else for that matter). And this one just happened to be about the death of the wrong guy.

    Actually it is about the death of the right guy. Are you telling me we can't say anything or do anything here in this country that might offend that crazy little piece of shit? Why are we worried about the dear leader's feelings? Sony doesn't speak for us anyway. Had Sony actually released the movie, we could have agreed or disagreed with their decision by choosing whether or not we saw it.

    Good God. Reread the entire thread, I'm not going to go around in circles with another one.