Michael Brown Shooting

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    does anyone know, was wilson equipped with a taser?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,608
    Gern Blansten said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Perhaps its now time for LE to move past or revise this shoot to kill policy that seems so prevelant these days. I understand things happen quickly , but when one for sure has not only the means to kill , but seemingly the green light with no checks on that , well.......

    We need to get back to cops travelling in pairs too. Both to protect the police and society.

    agree, with body cameras, mics so this shit can shift again to something more benign.
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  • Jason P
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    mickeyrat said:


    real man hunts with his hands.

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  • Wobbie
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    backseatLover12 said:

    In memory of Kelly Thomas.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas

    Yep....here in utah, we have Danielle Willard, Damien Harris and Dillon Taylor. Still, I will say that cops have a tough job. I don't think many of them start a shift thinking "I want to kill some motherfucker today"

    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • backseatLover12
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    Last-12-Exit said:

    Brown supporters are now just grasping at straws. The eyewitness accounts were unreliable. Many of their stories changed throughout the process. Surprisingly, the credible witnesses were corroborating Wilson's story of events. Again, I'll ask why should Wilson be indicted and charged with murder? Michael Brown assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. Wilson's response to that was lawful and consistent with his training. The evidence proves that. Please explain why he is a murderer. Because since the facts have been released, all I'm hearing is how the system is flawed. Sorry, but that's not enough to convince me why he should be charged with anything.

    Whatever happened to shooting the guy in the foot? Or leg? I'd like to know why police now go for the heart.
  • Empty Glass
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    mickeyrat said:


    please watch. good shit.
    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152603552157512&set=vb.648472511&type=2&theater

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    jeffbr said:

    JC29856 said:

    Wilson and Brown are about the same height and weight 215 vs 290, Wilson is aiming a gun at Brown
    Wilson says......."I keep back peddling because I know that if he reaches me he will kill me"

    Well, Brown outweighed Wilson, and Wilson had already taken a beating from Brown when the jackass leaned into the car and started punching him. So Wilson already experienced Brown's strength and aggression. Why wouldn't he be scared? Besides, you yourself said "Wilson does look like a total wuss." Brown probably thought so, too.
    Heck of a beating he took.

    http://time.com/3605051/darren-wilson-photos-injuries/

    I mean the horror of those injuries. How could one man deal with that?!?!?
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Cliffy6745 said:

    jeffbr said:

    JC29856 said:

    Wilson and Brown are about the same height and weight 215 vs 290, Wilson is aiming a gun at Brown
    Wilson says......."I keep back peddling because I know that if he reaches me he will kill me"

    Well, Brown outweighed Wilson, and Wilson had already taken a beating from Brown when the jackass leaned into the car and started punching him. So Wilson already experienced Brown's strength and aggression. Why wouldn't he be scared? Besides, you yourself said "Wilson does look like a total wuss." Brown probably thought so, too.
    Heck of a beating he took.

    http://time.com/3605051/darren-wilson-photos-injuries/

    I mean the horror of those injuries. How could one man deal with that?!?!?
    Some graphic pics there, for sure. He's a mess. Uh-huh.
  • backseatLover12
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    imalive said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    In memory of Kelly Thomas.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kelly_Thomas

    Yep....here in utah, we have Danielle Willard, Damien Harris and Dillon Taylor. Still, I will say that cops have a tough job. I don't think many of them start a shift thinking "I want to kill some motherfucker today"

    Yet they do run on power trips. Lots of them, anyway. And why don't they defend themselves by shooting in the foot or leg? Going right for the jugular is a not the humane thing to do.
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    JC29856 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    JC29856 said:

    jeffbr said:

    JC29856 said:

    Wilson and Brown are about the same height and weight 215 vs 290, Wilson is aiming a gun at Brown
    Wilson says......."I keep back peddling because I know that if he reaches me he will kill me"

    Well, Brown outweighed Wilson, and Wilson had already taken a beating from Brown when the jackass leaned into the car and started punching him. So Wilson already experienced Brown's strength and aggression. Why wouldn't he be scared? Besides, you yourself said "Wilson does look like a total wuss." Brown probably thought so, too.
    but im smart enough to know not to mess with a weasel with a gun, their more inclined to shoot! only wusses need guns, i prefer hand to hand combat, i hunt with a bow, like a real man.
    real man hunts with his hands.

    i tie my own flys? does that count
    So we do have something in common other that Pearl jam.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Brown supporters are now just grasping at straws. The eyewitness accounts were unreliable. Many of their stories changed throughout the process. Surprisingly, the credible witnesses were corroborating Wilson's story of events. Again, I'll ask why should Wilson be indicted and charged with murder? Michael Brown assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. Wilson's response to that was lawful and consistent with his training. The evidence proves that. Please explain why he is a murderer. Because since the facts have been released, all I'm hearing is how the system is flawed. Sorry, but that's not enough to convince me why he should be charged with anything.

    Whatever happened to shooting the guy in the foot? Or leg? I'd like to know why police now go for the heart.
    When didn't they? I've never heard of self-defense or law enforcement firearms training where shooting a foot is taught. You always go for center mass. It is the largest target, and has the best chance at actually stopping the aggressor. Shooting someones arm, hand, trigger finger, or shooting at a foot are low-probability shots. It is already tough for shooters to hit their targets based on adrenaline and stress. Adding trick shots into the mix is crazy. More potential for missed shots (and cops already have a high percentage of missed shots), more potential for stray bullets hitting innocents.
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  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    I don't think they're trained to shoot in the leg or foot. until they aren't moving, they are a threat. which is why they still handcuff a living person they just shot if he's moving around.
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Cliffy6745 said:

    jeffbr said:

    JC29856 said:

    Wilson and Brown are about the same height and weight 215 vs 290, Wilson is aiming a gun at Brown
    Wilson says......."I keep back peddling because I know that if he reaches me he will kill me"

    Well, Brown outweighed Wilson, and Wilson had already taken a beating from Brown when the jackass leaned into the car and started punching him. So Wilson already experienced Brown's strength and aggression. Why wouldn't he be scared? Besides, you yourself said "Wilson does look like a total wuss." Brown probably thought so, too.
    Heck of a beating he took.

    http://time.com/3605051/darren-wilson-photos-injuries/

    I mean the horror of those injuries. How could one man deal with that?!?!?
    At what point does Michael Brown commit felony assault on Wilson? How many punches? What force is required to meet your standard? Is there a certain color of bruising that needs to occur? How long do we wait for that bruising to show? Does blood need to flow?

    Replace my "taken a beating from" with "been assaulted by" if it makes you fee better.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    Did Anonymous ever post the supposed connections between Wilson and the KKK?
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  • backseatLover12
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    jeffbr said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Brown supporters are now just grasping at straws. The eyewitness accounts were unreliable. Many of their stories changed throughout the process. Surprisingly, the credible witnesses were corroborating Wilson's story of events. Again, I'll ask why should Wilson be indicted and charged with murder? Michael Brown assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. Wilson's response to that was lawful and consistent with his training. The evidence proves that. Please explain why he is a murderer. Because since the facts have been released, all I'm hearing is how the system is flawed. Sorry, but that's not enough to convince me why he should be charged with anything.

    Whatever happened to shooting the guy in the foot? Or leg? I'd like to know why police now go for the heart.
    When didn't they? I've never heard of self-defense or law enforcement firearms training where shooting a foot is taught. You always go for center mass. It is the largest target, and has the best chance at actually stopping the aggressor. Shooting someones arm, hand, trigger finger, or shooting at a foot are low-probability shots. It is already tough for shooters to hit their targets based on adrenaline and stress. Adding trick shots into the mix is crazy. More potential for missed shots (and cops already have a high percentage of missed shots), more potential for stray bullets hitting innocents.

    You might as well just say, they aim for the heart, aim to kill then. Which makes the police look even more inhumane. Shooting to stop someone is one thing, shooting to kill, i.e. aiming for the center mass, is quite another.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited November 2014
    ill check back tomrw for the blood evidence that was so highly touted earlier as proof that brown charged wilson. also still havent heard is casing travel up to say 30 feet?
    norm said:

    does anyone know, was wilson equipped with a taser?

    He said in his testimony that he prefers not to carry a taser because they are too big and bulky not much room on his belt.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited November 2014
    JimmyV said:

    Did Anonymous ever post the supposed connections between Wilson and the KKK?

    No, they backed off because the information was too specific and the source(s) feared that the Klan would narrow down to who was the informant. They say they do have other links but need to protect there sources, it will take them 2 weeks to figure out how best to reveal ties. The information links both newlyweds to kkk.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    The klan is Soooo non relevant in today's society.Why would anyone be threatened.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    JC29856 said:

    JimmyV said:

    Did Anonymous ever post the supposed connections between Wilson and the KKK?

    No, they backed off because the information was too specific and the source(s) feared that the Klan would narrow down to who was the informant. They say they do have other links but need to protect there sources, it will take them 2 weeks to figure out how best to reveal ties. The information links both newlyweds to kkk.
    Pretty damning charge to toss out there and then not substantiate. Anonymous has informants? I thought they were hacking the Klan and that was how they came by the information.

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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Brown supporters are now just grasping at straws. The eyewitness accounts were unreliable. Many of their stories changed throughout the process. Surprisingly, the credible witnesses were corroborating Wilson's story of events. Again, I'll ask why should Wilson be indicted and charged with murder? Michael Brown assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. Wilson's response to that was lawful and consistent with his training. The evidence proves that. Please explain why he is a murderer. Because since the facts have been released, all I'm hearing is how the system is flawed. Sorry, but that's not enough to convince me why he should be charged with anything.

    Whatever happened to shooting the guy in the foot? Or leg? I'd like to know why police now go for the heart.
    I'm not sure that ever been SOP for LE. You don't shoot to injure or give warning shots. In the beat of the moment, when you fear your life is in imminent danger, you shoot to kill.

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