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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Bunch of white/oriental kids with NYU sweatshirts protesting in NYC.Im pretty sure they have no idea what they think they are protesting.It must just be for the thrill,like the idiots who occupied Wall Street.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    bootlegger10 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Brown supporters are now just grasping at straws. The eyewitness accounts were unreliable. Many of their stories changed throughout the process. Surprisingly, the credible witnesses were corroborating Wilson's story of events. Again, I'll ask why should Wilson be indicted and charged with murder? Michael Brown assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. Wilson's response to that was lawful and consistent with his training. The evidence proves that. Please explain why he is a murderer. Because since the facts have been released, all I'm hearing is how the system is flawed. Sorry, but that's not enough to convince me why he should be charged with anything.

    Whatever happened to shooting the guy in the foot? Or leg? I'd like to know why police now go for the heart.
    I'm not sure that ever been SOP for LE. You don't shoot to injure or give warning shots. In the beat of the moment, when you fear your life is in imminent danger, you shoot to kill.
    That officer was hardly defending his life with those very minor face bruises. Aim to kill. That's all that cops are good for. Thanks for clarifying.
    Those very minor face bruises were only to the point in time where lethal force was taken- Brown wasn't finished yet.

    Those little bitty wussy wounds could have become much worse and I guess that's what you are implying here? That a cop should have his ass really thoroughly kicked before defending himself from a threat?

    Gotcha!
    If you read my posts on the prior page, my point is that police are inhumane if they are aiming for the heart rather than any other body part. They're aiming to kill, not capture a criminal alive.

    And speaking of which, psychometric testing reveals cops are just one measurement different than hardened criminals...some are no different. It is no coincidence that the majority of serial killers have at some point tried to join either the military or the police force. This is an actual fact. Same psychology.
    It sounds as if you don't give a shit... but some, such as their wives and children, would say they are working safely. Many cops have died in the line of duty not escalating their response to the intensity the situation demanded from them. What would you say to these fallen police officers? Good job restraining yourself from shooting the guy that ended up killing you!

    Have you stopped to think that they wouldn't have to fire their guns at people if the people they are firing at weren't attacking them? Do the criminals they deal with share any responsibility for these situations going badly?

    Who attacks a police officer thinking that is going to go well?

    Agree.

    The guy basically said cops are sociopaths so I don't think anything you say will change his mind. People must think differently. I think it depends on how you feel about personal responsibility. When I read that a person robbed a store, walked down the middle of the street, threw a punch at an officer, and then was shot by the cop I think that makes sense and then click to the next story.
    except that the story about the victim being a party of a strong arm robbery did not come out for days after the attack, and that part of the story had nothing to do with the outcome.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    I can't believe the amount of distain people have for the police. Yes, there are bad apples in the bunch. Just like there are crooked members of the military, and crooked lawyers, and crooked firefighters. But they are needed. Weather you like them or not, weather they like you or not, they will protect you with their life. The amount of disrespect they are facing these days is absolutely absurd. When somebody breaks into your home what's the first thing you do? Call for the police. You only hope they respond when you're the one in need. I'm not one that thinks respect is automatically given, it is earned. Most cops deserve your respect. They earn it everyday they go on shift patrolling the streets.

    maybe to a white man who lives somewhat comfortably in a white suburb somewhere. they don't get involved in the city when black gangs are killing one another.

    i would like to see these police go after the white collar criminals on wall street who have fucked every single one of us. but since those wall street guys are not burning things down, they are somehow not a threat to security or something...
    Not true Gimme,All my cop buddies have some rough areas to work.Ironically a black friend who took a cushy cop job on a small force in a wealthy white beachfront area has been involved in 2 massive shoot outs in the last year.So the job isn't safe regardless.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Brown supporters are now just grasping at straws. The eyewitness accounts were unreliable. Many of their stories changed throughout the process. Surprisingly, the credible witnesses were corroborating Wilson's story of events. Again, I'll ask why should Wilson be indicted and charged with murder? Michael Brown assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. Wilson's response to that was lawful and consistent with his training. The evidence proves that. Please explain why he is a murderer. Because since the facts have been released, all I'm hearing is how the system is flawed. Sorry, but that's not enough to convince me why he should be charged with anything.

    Whatever happened to shooting the guy in the foot? Or leg? I'd like to know why police now go for the heart.
    I'm not sure that ever been SOP for LE. You don't shoot to injure or give warning shots. In the beat of the moment, when you fear your life is in imminent danger, you shoot to kill.
    That officer was hardly defending his life with those very minor face bruises. Aim to kill. That's all that cops are good for. Thanks for clarifying.
    Those very minor face bruises were only to the point in time where lethal force was taken- Brown wasn't finished yet.

    Those little bitty wussy wounds could have become much worse and I guess that's what you are implying here? That a cop should have his ass really thoroughly kicked before defending himself from a threat?

    Gotcha!
    If you read my posts on the prior page, my point is that police are inhumane if they are aiming for the heart rather than any other body part. They're aiming to kill, not capture a criminal alive.

    And speaking of which, psychometric testing reveals cops are just one measurement different than hardened criminals...some are no different. It is no coincidence that the majority of serial killers have at some point tried to join either the military or the police force. This is an actual fact. Same psychology.
    It sounds as if you don't give a shit... but some, such as their wives and children, would say they are working safely. Many cops have died in the line of duty not escalating their response to the intensity the situation demanded from them. What would you say to these fallen police officers? Good job restraining yourself from shooting the guy that ended up killing you!

    Have you stopped to think that they wouldn't have to fire their guns at people if the people they are firing at weren't attacking them? Do the criminals they deal with share any responsibility for these situations going badly?

    Who attacks a police officer thinking that is going to go well?

    Agree.

    The guy basically said cops are sociopaths so I don't think anything you say will change his mind. People must think differently. I think it depends on how you feel about personal responsibility. When I read that a person robbed a store, walked down the middle of the street, threw a punch at an officer, and then was shot by the cop I think that makes sense and then click to the next story.
    except that the story about the victim being a party of a strong arm robbery did not come out for days after the attack, and that part of the story had nothing to do with the outcome.
    The robbery did play a part in the outcome. Wilson drove off and within seconds got the description of the suspect who robbed the store. That's why he backed up to them again.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    edited November 2014
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Brown supporters are now just grasping at straws. The eyewitness accounts were unreliable. Many of their stories changed throughout the process. Surprisingly, the credible witnesses were corroborating Wilson's story of events. Again, I'll ask why should Wilson be indicted and charged with murder? Michael Brown assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. Wilson's response to that was lawful and consistent with his training. The evidence proves that. Please explain why he is a murderer. Because since the facts have been released, all I'm hearing is how the system is flawed. Sorry, but that's not enough to convince me why he should be charged with anything.

    Whatever happened to shooting the guy in the foot? Or leg? I'd like to know why police now go for the heart.
    I'm not sure that ever been SOP for LE. You don't shoot to injure or give warning shots. In the beat of the moment, when you fear your life is in imminent danger, you shoot to kill.
    That officer was hardly defending his life with those very minor face bruises. Aim to kill. That's all that cops are good for. Thanks for clarifying.
    Those very minor face bruises were only to the point in time where lethal force was taken- Brown wasn't finished yet.

    Those little bitty wussy wounds could have become much worse and I guess that's what you are implying here? That a cop should have his ass really thoroughly kicked before defending himself from a threat?

    Gotcha!
    If you read my posts on the prior page, my point is that police are inhumane if they are aiming for the heart rather than any other body part. They're aiming to kill, not capture a criminal alive.

    And speaking of which, psychometric testing reveals cops are just one measurement different than hardened criminals...some are no different. It is no coincidence that the majority of serial killers have at some point tried to join either the military or the police force. This is an actual fact. Same psychology.
    It sounds as if you don't give a shit... but some, such as their wives and children, would say they are working safely. Many cops have died in the line of duty not escalating their response to the intensity the situation demanded from them. What would you say to these fallen police officers? Good job restraining yourself from shooting the guy that ended up killing you!

    Have you stopped to think that they wouldn't have to fire their guns at people if the people they are firing at weren't attacking them? Do the criminals they deal with share any responsibility for these situations going badly?

    Who attacks a police officer thinking that is going to go well?

    Agree.

    The guy basically said cops are sociopaths so I don't think anything you say will change his mind. People must think differently. I think it depends on how you feel about personal responsibility. When I read that a person robbed a store, walked down the middle of the street, threw a punch at an officer, and then was shot by the cop I think that makes sense and then click to the next story.
    except that the story about the victim being a party of a strong arm robbery did not come out for days after the attack, and that part of the story had nothing to do with the outcome.
    So this was all just a crazy coincidence? That all too common case of convenience store robber turned honorable citizen killed by police.

    The fact pattern remains in my original comment. The conclusion is not unexpected for the behaviors of Brown. Cause and effect. Brown doesn't rob convenience store, walks down the sidewalk, and doesn't assault a cop he would be having thanksgiving dinner tomorrow.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Last-12-Exit said:

    backseatLover12 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Brown supporters are now just grasping at straws. The eyewitness accounts were unreliable. Many of their stories changed throughout the process. Surprisingly, the credible witnesses were corroborating Wilson's story of events. Again, I'll ask why should Wilson be indicted and charged with murder? Michael Brown assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. Wilson's response to that was lawful and consistent with his training. The evidence proves that. Please explain why he is a murderer. Because since the facts have been released, all I'm hearing is how the system is flawed. Sorry, but that's not enough to convince me why he should be charged with anything.

    Whatever happened to shooting the guy in the foot? Or leg? I'd like to know why police now go for the heart.
    I'm not sure that ever been SOP for LE. You don't shoot to injure or give warning shots. In the beat of the moment, when you fear your life is in imminent danger, you shoot to kill.
    Do you see any possible flaws to this as SOP???
    Watch this Before you answer!
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vtx1tYc7PxI
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I didn't say that shoot to kill applies to every situation. Based on what I've read in this case, it did.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I didn't say that shoot to kill applies to every situation. Based on what I've read in this case, it did.

    If it is SOP it applies to all situations in which the police consider it necessary. We need to expect more from our police! And compensate them MUCH better.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,523
    rr165892 said:

    Bunch of white/oriental kids with NYU sweatshirts protesting in NYC.Im pretty sure they have no idea what they think they are protesting.It must just be for the thrill,like the idiots who occupied Wall Street.

    Really dude
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    josevolution said:

    So where will officer Wilson Patrol from now on .....

    state of missouri could possibly yank his license, so he could never work in missouri again. apparently missouri does not fuck around when it comes to yanking police licenses. apparently they are quite liberal about it.
    Stay safe man ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
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    rr165892 said:

    Bunch of white/oriental kids with NYU sweatshirts protesting in NYC.Im pretty sure they have no idea what they think they are protesting.It must just be for the thrill,like the idiots who occupied Wall Street.

    GET OFF MY LAWN!

    Showing your grey hair here rr

  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    What's the end game here?What are protesters expecting to achieve?How does any of this advance their cause?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    it is just a matter of perspective....

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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    image
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    it is just a matter of perspective....

    image

    Haha I love it!
    And yeah gopros on every cop...keep us safe, keep them honest, keep them safe from false complaints and keep us honest too.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,990
    reminds me of the jeremy video in a way...

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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    THE NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATION RESPONDS TO THE GRAND JURY’S DECISION NOT TO INDICT POLICE OFFICER DARREN WILSON IN THE SHOOTING DEATH OF MICHAEL BROWN

    http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=b493e6c4d31beda32fdaf8e2d&id=73514e334b


    "The National Bar Association is questioning how the Grand Jury, considering the evidence before them, could reach the conclusion that Darren Wilson should not be indicted and tried for the shooting death of Michael Brown."

  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,594
    gimmesometruth27 said:

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    We have the technology. This should be the norm. It would protect police and citizens alike.

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    rr165892 said:

    What's the end game here?What are protesters expecting to achieve?How does any of this advance their cause?

    Awareness/Justice.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    edited November 2014
    dignin said:

    rr165892 said:

    What's the end game here?What are protesters expecting to achieve?How does any of this advance their cause?

    Awareness/Justice.
    Agreed, hopefully people learn not to rob stores and antagonize police when approached. Oh wait, you probably meant fuck the police we now live in bizarro world where criminals that assault police are the victims.

    As an aside, I went to the store today and paid for my chips and salsa and made it back home alright. I also drove in my lane on the roads. I must be extremely lucky.

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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    gimmesometruth27 said:

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    I don't think any of us on either side of this circus would be against this.It should be the norm.

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