Michael Brown Shooting

callen said:

Gern Blansten said:

callen said:

Gern Blansten said:

callen said:

Cop struggles with guy and dies.

If you violently confront a cop as likely brown and idiot with knife did you should expect to die.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t

Tired of the bleeding heart bullshit.

violently? Where is the evidence of that?

Said "if".

ok but assaulting a police officer is not punishable by death....all of the evidence at this point reflects murder in Brown's case

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah add this recording to the other existing evidence and we still have murder at this point.

This recording backs up the eyewitnesses accounts. The cop was shooting as Brown and Johnson were running away. Brown turns with his arms up and gets four more bullets...two of which are head shots...the final entering the top of his skull NOT because he was charging the officer but because he was dying

To me the biggest piece of evidence backing up the eyewitnesses accounts is that the body was 35 feet from the police car. Whatever "struggle" might have occurred was done and the kid was running away.

So hitting a guy 6 times with handgun is hard. From 35 feet really hard. Or so I'm told. Think a lot of our speculations will be answered once they release the facts.

Jason P said:

callen said:

Gern Blansten said:

callen said:

Gern Blansten said:

callen said:

Cop struggles with guy and dies.

If you violently confront a cop as likely brown and idiot with knife did you should expect to die.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?c=homepage-t

Tired of the bleeding heart bullshit.

violently? Where is the evidence of that?

Said "if".

ok but assaulting a police officer is not punishable by death....all of the evidence at this point reflects murder in Brown's case

Gern Blansten said:

Yeah add this recording to the other existing evidence and we still have murder at this point.

This recording backs up the eyewitnesses accounts. The cop was shooting as Brown and Johnson were running away. Brown turns with his arms up and gets four more bullets...two of which are head shots...the final entering the top of his skull NOT because he was charging the officer but because he was dying

To me the biggest piece of evidence backing up the eyewitnesses accounts is that the body was 35 feet from the police car. Whatever "struggle" might have occurred was done and the kid was running away.

So hitting a guy 6 times with handgun is hard. From 35 feet really hard. Or so I'm told. Think a lot of our speculations will be answered once they release the facts.

At a gun range 35 feet isn't too hard. But in a confrontation I think it would be much harder with adrenilin flowing. How many total shots were fired?

dignin said:

John Stewart weighs in, and is brilliant as always.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUi2A6tUYQk#t=117

callen said:

chadwick said:

dignin said:

John Stewart weighs in, and is brilliant as always.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUi2A6tUYQk#t=117

nicely done. a whole lot of those idiots irritate the hell out of me. oh my god what a fucking group of numb nuts. yet millions of people follow & believe their every word & they respect them too.

unreal

Just entertainers juggling for advertising revenue catering to humans that seek validation of being special. It is sad.

Stewart does the same.

Strife, murder, weapons all great for the news (entertainment) industry.

chadwick said:

i'd rather be neighbors with jon stewart than any asshole idiot from that bunk ass fox news. seriously those at fox news are off in some other nonreality & have never had any idea what the fuck is going on

dignin said:

callen said:

chadwick said:

dignin said:

John Stewart weighs in, and is brilliant as always.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUi2A6tUYQk#t=117

nicely done. a whole lot of those idiots irritate the hell out of me. oh my god what a fucking group of numb nuts. yet millions of people follow & believe their every word & they respect them too.

unreal

Just entertainers juggling for advertising revenue catering to humans that seek validation of being special. It is sad.

Stewart does the same.

Strife, murder, weapons all great for the news (entertainment) industry.

Yeah I mostly agree, but Stewart doesn't pretend to be news.

Idris said:

Idris said:

rr165892 said:

Idris said:

rr165892 said:

pjhawks said:

Idris said:

And whatever happened to firing 'warning shots' (or is that just in the movies?) or shooting a person's leg(s).

well you don't know if the guy has a gun so if you just fire a warning shot or hit his leg you could end up dead if he does have one.

and i suspect if warning shots were fired the neighbors would complain about firing shots needlessly.

Or you hit an innocent bystander,ricochet,etc

You following the story of the cop in downtown Orlando killing a 20 year old with a stray bullet?

Has that been posted on the boards yet?

No,ill check it out later on line.Thx

mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/8/20/orlando_officer_shoo.html

ORLANDO --
The Orlando police officer who shot and killed a woman during a late-night confrontation with an armed man early Tuesday morning in downtown Orlando fired his agency-issued weapon nine times, according to a report released Wednesday.

Officer Eduardo Sanguino struck the suspect, later identified as 23-year-old Kody Roach, several times, the report states. Roach survived the shooting.

Maria Castillo, 22, was struck by a stray bullet fired from Sanguino's gun, Orlando Police Chief John Mina said Tuesday in a press conference. Police originally said Maria's last name was Godinez, but friends say she actually went by the last name Castillo.
Castillo later died at Orlando Regional Medical Center.

Witnesses at the time of the shooting said it wasn't likely that Roach fired his weapon. However, further investigation revealed Roach's .40-caliber handgun wasn't loaded and had no ammunition in the magazine or in the chamber, according to the report released Wednesday.

Police said the gun Roach had was stolen out of Orange County and was fully operational.

The shooting happened around 12:45 a.m. Tuesday outside Vixen Bar, 118 S. Orange Ave., when officers responded to a man with a gun.

Witnesses said the suspect, Kody Roach, was a regular at the bar. A man said Roach tried to walk inside the bar with his firearm.

911 calls began to come into dispatchers of a man with a gun outside the nightclub in downtown Orlando.

"He's, like, banging on the door with a gun!" said one caller.

A few minutes later, another caller who identified himself as a Vixen employee said Roach had been giving them trouble earlier.

"There's a guy we kicked out of our bar because he's too drunk and now he's started waiving his handgun around," the caller said.
Police said there was then a confrontation between the suspect and officers after they arrived and shots were fired.

Witnesses said they heard as many as a half-dozen shots fired at the scene.

The officers involved are on paid administrative leave, which is standard procedure in an officer-involved shooting.
The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating the shooting.

Did police follow protocol?
While officers face life or death situations many times in their careers, they also undergo specialized training to learn to cope with the pressure.

James Copenhaver, a private investigator and former Orange County sheriff’s investigator, said the revelation that nine shots were fired at a suspect in front of a crowded nightclub raises red flags about proper procedure.

Copenhaver said he understands the intensity of the situation.

“These cops are on heightened alert," he said. "They know that they are going on a call, that this guy has a gun because someone has seen it.”

But he said that’s when their constant training should kick in.

“It’s drilled in your head and you know before you take that fatal shot or any shot that you want some type of backdrop to protect potential citizens that are behind the suspect,” Copenhaver said.
Copenhaver said a thorough review of the incident will determine if the shooting was justified.

This is just the latest incident where the actions of Orlando police officers were questioned. Copenhaver he agrees with the recent indictment of the Orlando police officer charged with firing the AR-15 in a local parking garage. He again points to questions in the officer’s training and said maybe it’s time for a review

(Update)

Man charged with murder after cops shoot bystander

ORLANDO, Fla. – A Florida man was charged with murder on Tuesday in connection with a woman's death at an Orlando bar last week - even though a police officer fired the bullet that killed her, law enforcement officials said.

Police said the actions of Kody Roach, 23, resulted in the bystander's death on Aug. 19 from the stray shot and warranted a first-degree felony murder charge.

Under Florida law, a person can be charged with murder if a death occurs while a crime is being committed.

An officer fired at Roach nine times after unsuccessful attempts to subdue him, Orlando Police Chief John Mina said last week.

One of the bullets missed Roach and instead struck and killed Godinez, who was inside the bar with her friends.

Roach was hit five times, and another police officer on the scene was struck by a bullet that investigators believe ricocheted, according to an arrest affidavit.

The arrest report indicates the gun that was recovered from Roach -- a 40-caliber Ruger semi-automatic handgun -- had been reported stolen by a friend of his the day before the shooting.

That friend told Orange County sheriff's deputies he had been drinking with Roach that night and went to bed. When he awoke the next morning, his gun, ammunition and $30 was missing.

clickorlando.com/news/murder-charge-filed-in-club-shooting/27741346

torontosun.com/2014/08/26/man-charged-with-murder-after-cops-shoot-bystander