Imagine That -- I’m Still Anti-War

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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited July 2014
    Byrnzie said:

    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    Again, you are assuming that everyday citizens aren't trying to affect a change. You have to differentiate between the U.S. government and it's citizens. To say that people aren't trying to do anything is an unfair statement to make.

    Well, that's not the impression I get from reading people's posts.
    backseatLover12 said:

    WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. But we can handle how we treat each other

    backseatLover12 said:

    Both sides have to give up ego, being "right", and their pride for any solutions to ever happen. So let it go, people!! When we get old, will we look back and say that we were open minded and accepted others for being different? Or will we look back and regret all the anger we had because our egos and pride were too precious to mess with? And where do egos and pride get us anyway in the long run? A lot of disconnection from other people, a lot of unhappiness, and a lot of war.

    Seriously, what a crock of shit.

    And every other comment being about my 'anger'. Sure, because we shouldn't get angry when thousands are being massacred with U.S tax dollars and U.S political support - 90% of them civilians, including approx 350 children.

    No, don't get angry. Anger is bad for you. Just talk about peace and love instead, and do nothing.

    Actually, this kind of apathy disgusts me.

    Dude. You are making it personal. Am I angry? No.

    I'm now bowing out getting personal with you. Care to do the same? I believe in communication, but communicating with an angry person is ridiculous. Nothing is ever solved that way.
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited July 2014
    Byrnzie said:




    Nobody was trying to silence the 'flower-power' crowd. In fact, the complete opposite was the case. They all jumped on my 'anger' at the atrocities taking place, and my anger at those trying to excuse and justify it, and tried pretending that those who are actively trying to do someone about the massacre over there - by whatever means they have at their disposal - have emotional issues, and should basically shut up and puff on a bong.

    For that last time, since the beginning, this thread is not about fighting. It's about peace. How many times does this have to be written?
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/31/world/middleeast/fighting-political-islam-arab-states-find-themselves-allied-with-israel.html?_r=1

    Hamas will be gone soon. Peace will come.
  • lolobugg
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    badbrains said:

    Geraldo fucken Rivera? Wtf, did I just see this. Believe me, NOT WHAT you'd expect.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5637081?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

    just saw this......interesting
    but you know that ol' Geraldo used to hang with J Lennon back in the day.
    I think he had something to do with those Lennon fundraiser concerts in NYC for the neglected/abused patients
    He was into social causes before he started to suck Fox News' tit

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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    JimmyV said:

    badbrains said:

    Brian, I dnt think he was calling u out specifically. He mentions it a few lines up from what u highlighted in your post.

    But then he follows that up with the bolded text. " It is people like you in this thread who have been trying to silence those of us calling attention to Israeli crimes." Maybe that is an attack on others, but it is hard not to see it as an attack on Brian too. And it is most definitely an attack.

    It seems to me that many of the pro-Israeli voices have retreated from this discussion. In their absence, some of the pro-Palestinian anger has been directed at people who are otherwise largely in agreement with their cause.



    Jim, buddy, brian highlighted the post not byrnzie. Lol all good tho bro.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    lolobugg said:

    badbrains said:

    Geraldo fucken Rivera? Wtf, did I just see this. Believe me, NOT WHAT you'd expect.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5637081?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

    just saw this......interesting
    but you know that ol' Geraldo used to hang with J Lennon back in the day.
    I think he had something to do with those Lennon fundraiser concerts in NYC for the neglected/abused patients
    He was into social causes before he started to suck Fox News' tit
    And he even says he's a Zionist to on the program. I'm still in shock lol
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,607
    edited July 2014
    badbrains said:

    JimmyV said:

    badbrains said:

    Brian, I dnt think he was calling u out specifically. He mentions it a few lines up from what u highlighted in your post.

    But then he follows that up with the bolded text. " It is people like you in this thread who have been trying to silence those of us calling attention to Israeli crimes." Maybe that is an attack on others, but it is hard not to see it as an attack on Brian too. And it is most definitely an attack.

    It seems to me that many of the pro-Israeli voices have retreated from this discussion. In their absence, some of the pro-Palestinian anger has been directed at people who are otherwise largely in agreement with their cause.



    Jim, buddy, brian highlighted the post not byrnzie. Lol all good tho bro.
    You mean fuck, not Byrnzie.

    I know Brian highlighted the text, but fuck wrote it. I wasn't saying fuck highlighted the text, but I can see how that might not have been clear. I just don't buy the "I won't say you specifically" qualification when it is followed up by "It is people like you who..."

    I am willing to give fuck the benefit of the doubt, but it did read like an attack to me.

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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Correct, my bad, it was fuck. See, I told u guys, I'm shithead. Sorry byrnzie
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  • jumbojet
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    That is an offer nobody here can refuse. :)
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,607
    edited July 2014
    I've always loved this song. It was probably already 20 years old when I heard it for the first time. Still resonates today. I would love to hear Eddie sing it someday.

    http://youtu.be/Tjk0kcArclw


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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    JimmyV said:

    I've always loved this song. It was probably already 20 years old when I heard it for the first time. Still resonates today. I would love to hear Eddie sing it someday.

    http://youtu.be/Tjk0kcArclw


    Not get off track but.....
    Dude, that fucken song is awesome! I've never heard it before and fuck ya, vedder can pull this off. No doubt! As much as I love vedder, mite be tough to top this. Nice jimmy!
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,433
    badbrains said:

    JimmyV said:

    I've always loved this song. It was probably already 20 years old when I heard it for the first time. Still resonates today. I would love to hear Eddie sing it someday.

    http://youtu.be/Tjk0kcArclw


    Not get off track but.....
    Dude, that fucken song is awesome! I've never heard it before and fuck ya, vedder can pull this off. No doubt! As much as I love vedder, mite be tough to top this. Nice jimmy!
    I got fucking goosebumps. I'm curious to see what my Israeli cousin-in-law will say when I whip out my guitar this weekend and belt it out - think she might pay attention when the Jordan River comes up...
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    benjs said:

    badbrains said:

    JimmyV said:

    I've always loved this song. It was probably already 20 years old when I heard it for the first time. Still resonates today. I would love to hear Eddie sing it someday.

    http://youtu.be/Tjk0kcArclw


    Not get off track but.....
    Dude, that fucken song is awesome! I've never heard it before and fuck ya, vedder can pull this off. No doubt! As much as I love vedder, mite be tough to top this. Nice jimmy!
    I got fucking goosebumps. I'm curious to see what my Israeli cousin-in-law will say when I whip out my guitar this weekend and belt it out - think she might pay attention when the Jordan River comes up...
    Ben, that would be sick man! Play it bro, shit, record it! I'd like to hear it
  • fuck
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    JimmyV said:

    badbrains said:

    JimmyV said:

    badbrains said:

    Brian, I dnt think he was calling u out specifically. He mentions it a few lines up from what u highlighted in your post.

    But then he follows that up with the bolded text. " It is people like you in this thread who have been trying to silence those of us calling attention to Israeli crimes." Maybe that is an attack on others, but it is hard not to see it as an attack on Brian too. And it is most definitely an attack.

    It seems to me that many of the pro-Israeli voices have retreated from this discussion. In their absence, some of the pro-Palestinian anger has been directed at people who are otherwise largely in agreement with their cause.



    Jim, buddy, brian highlighted the post not byrnzie. Lol all good tho bro.
    You mean fuck, not Byrnzie.

    I know Brian highlighted the text, but fuck wrote it. I wasn't saying fuck highlighted the text, but I can see how that might not have been clear. I just don't buy the "I won't say you specifically" qualification when it is followed up by "It is people like you who..."

    I am willing to give fuck the benefit of the doubt, but it did read like an attack to me.

    I meant people echoing similar sentiments of "it's all peace, bro" that Brian was. If I meant to call Brian out, I would've said "you" not "people like you". If Brian believes the things I was disagreeing with, then I am calling him out. If he doesn't then I'm not. It's up to him.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    "The world stands disgraced"
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/world-disgrace-gaza-un-shelter-school-israel
    "United Nations officials described the killing of sleeping children as a disgrace to the world and accused Israel of a serious violation of international law after a school in Gaza being used to shelter Palestinian families was shelled on Wednesday."
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    fuck said:

    "The world stands disgraced"
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/world-disgrace-gaza-un-shelter-school-israel
    "United Nations officials described the killing of sleeping children as a disgrace to the world and accused Israel of a serious violation of international law after a school in Gaza being used to shelter Palestinian families was shelled on Wednesday."

    After they were told 17 times that it was a SAFE HOUSE housing WOMEN/CHILDREN.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    This belongs in here. Brian, this ones for you buddy.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/celebrities-palestinian-gazanames.html

  • Byrnzie
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    backseatLover12 said:

    Dude. You are making it personal.

    I'm making it personal? Pot calling the kettle.....



  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,855
    Israel and Hamas agree to a 72 hours unconditional humanitarian ceasefire to begin Friday morning:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/28596609

    I think it's weird for them to only agree to only a 72 hour ceasefire, but I guess the point is what? To allow people to have 3 days to flee? Where might they flee to?
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