Border and immigration crisis.

callen · July 2014

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:
Taxes are paid on every single item they purchase. How many vehicles, fuel,construction equipment,tools, clothes etc are bought every day? Those are the taxes that get things done on a state and local level.
true enough but they are not US citizens there for should not be here in the first place and by the way have you read or heard how much money goes across the border just from immigrant workers every year ?, in san diego if you are aware of whats going on you can find them living in canyons of up scale neighborhoods and every now and then they start(accidental) fires in those canyons and sometimes those fires burn down homes....but anyway those dollars are going into mexico's economy..not this one.

Godfather.

Yeah agree lotsa money flowing south. Now think about how much money we piss away giving money to countries on other side of world. At least it's going to our neighbors that help the us more. Mexico imports tons from US if that's any consolation.

Now GF we need to go after the root of problem.......demand. Course I sound like broken record. Ha.

Peace.

callen · July 2014

unsung said:
This issued is solved by doing four things.

1. Securing the border.

2. Ending the anchor baby law.

3. Jailing employers.

4. Ending handouts to illegals.

There would be no need to deport, they'd do it themselves. Remove the incentives and the issue is gone.

AND easy effective means for US companies to hire temp workers. Where they can prove no us citizen wants to do the work.

callen · July 2014

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:
Taxes are paid on every single item they purchase. How many vehicles, fuel,construction equipment,tools, clothes etc are bought every day? Those are the taxes that get things done on a state and local level.
true enough but they are not US citizens there for should not be here in the first place and by the way have you read or heard how much money goes across the border just from immigrant workers every year ?, in san diego if you are aware of whats going on you can find them living in canyons of up scale neighborhoods and every now and then they start(accidental) fires in those canyons and sometimes those fires burn down homes....but anyway those dollars are going into mexico's economy..not this one.

Godfather.

Mexicans are NOT the only group sending money back home.
some of that cash is staying here to rent apartments/houses , pay utilities, the shit ton of groceries I see these guys buying in Meijers(where I shop) , patronize businesses that started up to cater to that culture by those with legal status , employing people to do so etc.

There WILL be some kind of impact to our economy should a mass deportation take place. To what degree is debatable , but soem kind of impact is to be had. What do you suggest we do with those who are going to work everyday contributing to our way of living? You know those that are lining the pockets of douchbag americans exploiting undocumented status and skirting criminal law as well as civil law not to mention not paying into the SS , Medicare etc. I say lets start with jailing those that employ the undocumented. We''ll see how quickly a resolution to this issue takes place.

Thinking food prices go up immediately. Big constraints on construction. Will cause real inflation. Be interesting to get some good data on impact.

unsung · July 2014

callen said:

unsung said:
This issued is solved by doing four things.

1. Securing the border.

2. Ending the anchor baby law.

3. Jailing employers.

4. Ending handouts to illegals.

There would be no need to deport, they'd do it themselves. Remove the incentives and the issue is gone.

AND easy effective means for US companies to hire temp workers. Where they can prove no us citizen wants to do the work.

I'm good with temporary worker visa. I'm also good with streaming the process to become a citizen, I'm just against the easy way out.

josevolution · July 2014

unsung said:
This issued is solved by doing four things.

1. Securing the border.

2. Ending the anchor baby law.

3. Jailing employers.

4. Ending handouts to illegals.

There would be no need to deport, they'd do it themselves. Remove the incentives and the issue is gone.

Oh yeah self deportation i forgot about that where have i heard that before

chadwick · July 2014

the majority of folks coming up here the round-about way are not going anywhere. true fact. they will actually be increasing in numbers as it drives many bullshit americans out of their minds

you'll see

what about the reverse side of the coin? what if the u.s. is at war, which the u.s. does often & all the time. then the u.s. is invaded, bombed & fucked with hardcore & so on.

folks are runnin for mexico & canada, yes/no? hopefully many are turned away & tossed back across the border

gimmesometruth27 · July 2014

"anchor baby" is an incredibly offensive term. how very limbaugh.

chadwick · July 2014

what actually is "anchor baby?"

gimmesometruth27 · July 2014

chadwick said:
what actually is "anchor baby?"

it is a negative term for babies that are born to illegal immigrants in the united states, which keeps the parents from being deported right away. the baby is an "anchor" keeping the parents and child here in the us.

chadwick · July 2014

a tactless remark

& thank you for your explaination, gimmie

gimmesometruth27 · July 2014

it is hard to gain supporters for your side of an issue when terms like that are common on shows like limbaugh and o'reilly.

chadwick · July 2014

limbaugh and o'reilly... really horrible, horrible guys these two. not much good in these clowns

unsung · July 2014

gimmesometruth27 said:
"anchor baby" is an incredibly offensive term. how very limbaugh.

They offend me.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · July 2014

unsung said:

gimmesometruth27 said:
"anchor baby" is an incredibly offensive term. how very limbaugh.
They offend me.

Are you referring to Limbaugh and O'Reilly as 'they'?

rr165892 · July 2014

I don't get the uproar about the name.Nothing Rascist here.When I was young I was a "Latch key kid" How about "Flower child"I guess I.Dont see the big PC issue here.Are we being a smidge over sensitive .

callen · July 2014

Who knows maybe I'm getting old and conservative. The term anchor baby may be a bad choice of words but in my travels throughout Houston, and I mix it up with my fellow humans, having a child in the us is a primary goal for many. The us tax payer is on the hook for medical expenses, and schooling as well as vehicle for parents to become citizens. Anchor baby is commonly used in south.

Now the parents and some of the offspring(second generation can become dicks like us) raise the standard of living and as us crusty old white people age, we'll be cared for by them. Also Hispanics are nurturing and caring, much more than whites , yellows, and the darker browns.

The cheap labor from south benefits us all. Just controlling it.

unsung · July 2014

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

unsung said:

gimmesometruth27 said:
"anchor baby" is an incredibly offensive term. how very limbaugh.
They offend me.
Are you referring to Limbaugh and O'Reilly as 'they'?

I can't say I've ever paid them any mind, they aren't worth my time.

I was speaking of the anchor babies and their parents that take advantage of the system. The parents offend me that they use a child to get around our laws. It is a loophole that needs to be closed, it isn't being used as intended.

Godfather. · July 2014

mickeyrat said:

Godfather. said:

mickeyrat said:
Taxes are paid on every single item they purchase. How many vehicles, fuel,construction equipment,tools, clothes etc are bought every day? Those are the taxes that get things done on a state and local level.
true enough but they are not US citizens there for should not be here in the first place and by the way have you read or heard how much money goes across the border just from immigrant workers every year ?, in san diego if you are aware of whats going on you can find them living in canyons of up scale neighborhoods and every now and then they start(accidental) fires in those canyons and sometimes those fires burn down homes....but anyway those dollars are going into mexico's economy..not this one.

Godfather.

Mexicans are NOT the only group sending money back home.
some of that cash is staying here to rent apartments/houses , pay utilities, the shit ton of groceries I see these guys buying in Meijers(where I shop) , patronize businesses that started up to cater to that culture by those with legal status , employing people to do so etc.

There WILL be some kind of impact to our economy should a mass deportation take place. To what degree is debatable , but soem kind of impact is to be had. What do you suggest we do with those who are going to work everyday contributing to our way of living? You know those that are lining the pockets of douchbag americans exploiting undocumented status and skirting criminal law as well as civil law not to mention not paying into the SS , Medicare etc. I say lets start with jailing those that employ the undocumented. We''ll see how quickly a resolution to this issue takes place.

very true Micky that Mexicans are not the only ones sending money home but this thread is about the Mexican Border immigration crisis,and if that store owner is catering to the needs and money of illegals is he not incouraging illegal activity ? you had mentioned " I say lets start with jailing those that employ the undocumented." and you know how the American system works,once we start with jailing employers we will start jailing business owners that knowingly cater to the illegals, besides you know non of this will ever happen,worst case senrieo the house gets filled with republicans in 2016 and the new prez launches a full scale all out attack on our borders deploying national guard along with regular military and employing more agents............then start a deportation process of the likes this country has never seen(if I'm going to dream I may as well dream big right)

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Godfather.

rgambs · July 2014

Indifference71 said:

rgambs said:
of course we have that right. Its just a shame we exercize it in the most selfish, exclusionary, and pathetic way possible.
How is it selfish? It's selfish to have an opinion? You just don't agree with the opinion.

it is not selfish to have an opinion, it is a selfish opinion to have. This lame ass right wing (dont deny its a right wing mentality, even if you dont consider yourself an rwinger) idealogy says " I dont want MY taxes to pay for food and healthcare for those OTHERS who were born without OUR advantages. Nevermind MY taxes going into the pockets of the super rich, nevermind MY taxes building drones to extrajudicially assasinate, nevermind MY taxes going toward the NSA spying on me, nope lets talk about government "handouts" to "welfare moms" and "anchor babies". Its a chickenshit deflection that comes from the power elite and those who fall for it are just pathetic. Tow the line and dont criticize the man behind the curtain! Dont worry, you are in the majority, those of us who protest real injustices and inhumanity will continue to talk about peace and equality and you can continue to spout about "them" and "their handouts"

know1 · July 2014

Imagine the desperation it takes to pull up your roots and head for another country to live there illegally and in fear of prosecution. The situations they live in must be extremely poor for them to be willing to do that. I'm sure most of us would never consider it. Doesn't that deserve some compassion? People are people. Why is it OK to shun them and remove them yet continue to support millions upon millions in this country who are essentially unwilling to lift a hand to better their situation?

I say let anyone in who wants to be in. Those that don't like it can find some other country that wants to shun people who need help.

Border and immigration crisis.

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