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Strange....it used to be easy but when I look now I have no idea.rr165892 said:
For the record if I knew how to change it I wouldn't be stuck with a user name with only letters and numbers.....then I could have a cool username like everyone elseevsgjamm said:
I've shot, stabbed, choked, gassed, drowned and salted 8 computers while on this thread. Words aren't seeming to work so well. Gotta get violent on dis muddah.Aafke said:I love a heavy debate on subjects like this one, because instead of fighting in physical form, we use words, and arguments, gives me a much higher survival change than a physical encounter, hi, hi...
Lets keep it up people, fight my arguments as I will keep up fighting yours.... Let's see if anyone can make an argument that will help people chance their mind on this subject. one way or the other...
I'm back bitches! Who wants to fight?!?!?!?!!?!
This post, brought to you by some extremely sweetened tetley tea POW POW!! SHANK SHANK! EAT DIRT SCUMBAAAAAAAAGS!
If someone walks up to my son and I think they are going to beat my son, my claws are coming out.
If someone enters my house in the middle of the night and fires off a gun saying "I'm coming to kill your whole family no matter what you say!" then I'm reaching for my AK.
If someone has killed 6 million Jews and that person enters my house to ask for a cold Pepsi THEY GOIN DOWN WITH A STEAK KNIFE BEEEEEEEEOTCHES!
If someone violently and purposely kills me, I hope they get the death penalty so my family feels justice has been served.
If someone violently kills someone else's loved ones, I hope the murderer gets the guillotine.
If someone is ordered to kill some innocent people, the person who gave the orders must DIEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Caffeine kills.
Time to light my coffee can on fire.
IS ANY ONE ELSE ALIVE IN HERE????? I AM REVVED UP! WEEEEEEEEEHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
The end.
I wish I were a chimp to know what it felt like to purge without criminal consequences.
The end part two.
Hedonist, Aafke, JWPearl (excellent video by the way), TBP, chadwick (still up my ass), the weird names with a bunch of letters and numbers, dignin, BRIANLUX (almost forgot about ya til I scrolled up) annnnnnnnnd Leezestar (he won't see this anyway)... I love you all. Go pearl jam yay pearl jam oh pearl jam pearl jam ham.
The end part trois.
Post with no regrets. My face is numb.
The 4th end is bitter sweet cuz it's my last post on this thread. Crying starts.........
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Whenever I see you post... the first thing that comes to mind is that hairless cat you used to use as your icon.dignin said:
Strange....it used to be easy but when I look now I have no idea.rr165892 said:
For the record if I knew how to change it I wouldn't be stuck with a user name with only letters and numbers.....then I could have a cool username like everyone elseevsgjamm said:
I've shot, stabbed, choked, gassed, drowned and salted 8 computers while on this thread. Words aren't seeming to work so well. Gotta get violent on dis muddah.Aafke said:I love a heavy debate on subjects like this one, because instead of fighting in physical form, we use words, and arguments, gives me a much higher survival change than a physical encounter, hi, hi...
Lets keep it up people, fight my arguments as I will keep up fighting yours.... Let's see if anyone can make an argument that will help people chance their mind on this subject. one way or the other...
I'm back bitches! Who wants to fight?!?!?!?!!?!
This post, brought to you by some extremely sweetened tetley tea POW POW!! SHANK SHANK! EAT DIRT SCUMBAAAAAAAAGS!
If someone walks up to my son and I think they are going to beat my son, my claws are coming out.
If someone enters my house in the middle of the night and fires off a gun saying "I'm coming to kill your whole family no matter what you say!" then I'm reaching for my AK.
If someone has killed 6 million Jews and that person enters my house to ask for a cold Pepsi THEY GOIN DOWN WITH A STEAK KNIFE BEEEEEEEEOTCHES!
If someone violently and purposely kills me, I hope they get the death penalty so my family feels justice has been served.
If someone violently kills someone else's loved ones, I hope the murderer gets the guillotine.
If someone is ordered to kill some innocent people, the person who gave the orders must DIEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Caffeine kills.
Time to light my coffee can on fire.
IS ANY ONE ELSE ALIVE IN HERE????? I AM REVVED UP! WEEEEEEEEEHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
The end.
I wish I were a chimp to know what it felt like to purge without criminal consequences.
The end part two.
Hedonist, Aafke, JWPearl (excellent video by the way), TBP, chadwick (still up my ass), the weird names with a bunch of letters and numbers, dignin, BRIANLUX (almost forgot about ya til I scrolled up) annnnnnnnnd Leezestar (he won't see this anyway)... I love you all. Go pearl jam yay pearl jam oh pearl jam pearl jam ham.
The end part trois.
Post with no regrets. My face is numb.
The 4th end is bitter sweet cuz it's my last post on this thread. Crying starts........."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Here is an other one, some of you strongly disagree with...
"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
"Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee0 -
Ha! I could always bring it back.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Whenever I see you post... the first thing that comes to mind is that hairless cat you used to use as your icon.dignin said:
Strange....it used to be easy but when I look now I have no idea.rr165892 said:
For the record if I knew how to change it I wouldn't be stuck with a user name with only letters and numbers.....then I could have a cool username like everyone elseevsgjamm said:
I've shot, stabbed, choked, gassed, drowned and salted 8 computers while on this thread. Words aren't seeming to work so well. Gotta get violent on dis muddah.Aafke said:I love a heavy debate on subjects like this one, because instead of fighting in physical form, we use words, and arguments, gives me a much higher survival change than a physical encounter, hi, hi...
Lets keep it up people, fight my arguments as I will keep up fighting yours.... Let's see if anyone can make an argument that will help people chance their mind on this subject. one way or the other...
I'm back bitches! Who wants to fight?!?!?!?!!?!
This post, brought to you by some extremely sweetened tetley tea POW POW!! SHANK SHANK! EAT DIRT SCUMBAAAAAAAAGS!
If someone walks up to my son and I think they are going to beat my son, my claws are coming out.
If someone enters my house in the middle of the night and fires off a gun saying "I'm coming to kill your whole family no matter what you say!" then I'm reaching for my AK.
If someone has killed 6 million Jews and that person enters my house to ask for a cold Pepsi THEY GOIN DOWN WITH A STEAK KNIFE BEEEEEEEEOTCHES!
If someone violently and purposely kills me, I hope they get the death penalty so my family feels justice has been served.
If someone violently kills someone else's loved ones, I hope the murderer gets the guillotine.
If someone is ordered to kill some innocent people, the person who gave the orders must DIEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Caffeine kills.
Time to light my coffee can on fire.
IS ANY ONE ELSE ALIVE IN HERE????? I AM REVVED UP! WEEEEEEEEEHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
The end.
I wish I were a chimp to know what it felt like to purge without criminal consequences.
The end part two.
Hedonist, Aafke, JWPearl (excellent video by the way), TBP, chadwick (still up my ass), the weird names with a bunch of letters and numbers, dignin, BRIANLUX (almost forgot about ya til I scrolled up) annnnnnnnnd Leezestar (he won't see this anyway)... I love you all. Go pearl jam yay pearl jam oh pearl jam pearl jam ham.
The end part trois.
Post with no regrets. My face is numb.
The 4th end is bitter sweet cuz it's my last post on this thread. Crying starts.........
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Perhaps you are more enlightened than I. Perhaps I am able to discern and make value judgements and you aren't. Who knows? I can feel empathy and compassion for those I don't know, but I value the lives of my kids and my family more than the lives of total strangers. That isn't to say the child in this picture has no value to me. But to claim that all life has equal value to an individual is just a really strange concept to me. Some lives simply do matter less to me. As I mentioned early in this thread, a cracked out violent ciminal may have negative value to me, whereas the lives of my kids I value more than my own. And based on your personal story you related above, I think that really is the same with you, but you won't admit it. You got physical when it came to protecting your child. Would you get physical and intervene in a violent dispute between two random drug addicts in an alley fighting over their last rock? I wouldn't and I don't think you would either.Aafke said:Here is an other one, some of you strongly disagree with...
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
I think every one values the life of there loved ones more than that of complete strainers, because we don't know them, we all do have a subjective and different vision on the world. The difference between us is that, I will not act as if my vision is the only true and right one. In my own example I didn't physically attack this woman, I lost my calm, and started an ordinary shouting match.. That scared her and she hit me, I tried to defend myself physically, but as I stated before only punched air. So no I I did not get physically when she attacked my kid. I am no fighter never was, and never will be, I flight or freeze in those kind of situations. But I will always use my words and body to protect an obvious underdog... Not by fighting back but to use my body as shield. Doesn't matter if I know the person in question or not... I know it's quite a stupid thing to do and can get me at risk, but I can't help it, maybe I do it because at some point in my life I wish someone had done the same for me. I do not value my life that high maybe...
"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
"Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee0 -
Right now I don't know about God, I don't know about killing or violence, I don't know about defense or offense. All I know is that when evsjamm brain says, "Let 'er rip!" we are in for some miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighty interesting reading! :-D"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Pretty hard to disagree with that, Rollins, and I wish I could disagree but sadly enough I think you make a very good and poignant point here.rollings said:Aafke said:Here is an other one, some of you strongly disagree with...
the only thing is, is there might be a difference
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The only difference I see is the prejudice, in the way these pics are presented... You judge these on their appearance, but you don't know whats there story.
Maybe the first pic, presents us, you angry as hell, ready to shoot the little boy in the next pic, who just picked your pockets.
The third pic shows us the grieving family of the little boy you just shot, and the last one presents us the neighborhood kids, giggling by the dead body of the pickpocket you just shot.
I know this is a really unlikely scenario, and there could be a thousand others, but the fact is we don't know ... the stories behind those pics. Sometimes, a picture can say more than a thousand word, but if we randomly interpenetrate those images, you can be very, very easily make mistakes, and be clouded by your own judgement, and prejudice.
A agree with you there are many differences between people, every person is unique,but that doesn't mean that you can judge the value of the one life higher than, that of an other...
One of my reasons why I dislike violence that much, especially gun violence... You judge and shoot, in the blink of an eye... In that blink of an eye it's so easy to misjudge someone on the basis of your own prejudice, but after you have puled that trigger, you killed or badly wounded a human being... In what way are you better than just a killer, the meaning of the word killer in my opinion is someone who kills an other human being, no matter what the circumstances are. Killing= killing, there is no excuse for doing so.
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"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
"Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee0 -
I can kind of see valuing the lives of people you actually know more than the lives of someone you don't, but there are people who value the life of some American they don't know over the life of someone of another nationality they don't. That just doesn't make sense to me.jeffbr said:
Perhaps you are more enlightened than I. Perhaps I am able to discern and make value judgements and you aren't. Who knows? I can feel empathy and compassion for those I don't know, but I value the lives of my kids and my family more than the lives of total strangers. That isn't to say the child in this picture has no value to me. But to claim that all life has equal value to an individual is just a really strange concept to me. Some lives simply do matter less to me. As I mentioned early in this thread, a cracked out violent ciminal may have negative value to me, whereas the lives of my kids I value more than my own. And based on your personal story you related above, I think that really is the same with you, but you won't admit it. You got physical when it came to protecting your child. Would you get physical and intervene in a violent dispute between two random drug addicts in an alley fighting over their last rock? I wouldn't and I don't think you would either.Aafke said:Here is an other one, some of you strongly disagree with...
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.0 -
The thugs were once those darling kids and the environment to which they were subjected created what they became. It's too easy to hate.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0
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Thank you, that was the point I was trying to make...callen said:The thugs were once those darling kids and the environment to which they were subjected created what they became. It's too easy to hate.
"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
"Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee0 -
believe it... many are ruthless, useless monsterous dogshit bastards who do not give one crap about our sensitive feelings & would enjoy plucking out our eyeballs & having a thrill torturing innocent folks
who gives a damn if they were once a beautiful child? they fucking are not beautiful children now, they are cruel as can be & they deserve to die if they attack someone minding to their own affairs & it is a fight for survival
there are knives designed to penetrate a human skull. it is not even close to hatefor poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
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The thugs chose a path to violence and hate.They open themselves up to reap what they sew.When the guys break into the house they now have lowered their value as people and all civilities are off the table.They no longer get equal footing with the pics of the kids.They are making a decision and forcing the home owner if home or threatened to do the same.Aafke said:
Thank you, that was the point I was trying to make...callen said:The thugs were once those darling kids and the environment to which they were subjected created what they became. It's too easy to hate.
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Callen,that's no excuse.Just because someone is a product of their respective enviorment does not justify them projecting the same negative on to other.If a person is abused as a child it's NOT ok or an excuse to then go and do Abuse on another child.callen said:The thugs were once those darling kids and the environment to which they were subjected created what they became. It's too easy to hate.
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Exactly... So it also is no excuse to shoot a human who points a gun at you, cause you just projecting the same amount of agression and violence onto this person as he does to you, and as you stated: there is no excuse for "projecting the same negative on to other.If a person"rr165892 said:
Callen,that's no excuse.Just because someone is a product of their respective enviorment does not justify them projecting the same negative on to other.If a person is abused as a child it's NOT ok or an excuse to then go and do Abuse on another child.callen said:The thugs were once those darling kids and the environment to which they were subjected created what they became. It's too easy to hate.
I frest my case!
"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
"Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee0 -
No,not the same at all.That would be the premise if I had been the aggressor in the past.we are talking about innocent peeps doing there own thing while a intruder breaks in.Aafke said:
Exactly... So it also is no excuse to shoot a human who points a gun at you, cause you just projecting the same amount of agression and violence onto this person as he does to you, and as you stated: there is no excuse for "projecting the same negative on to other.If a person"rr165892 said:
Callen,that's no excuse.Just because someone is a product of their respective enviorment does not justify them projecting the same negative on to other.If a person is abused as a child it's NOT ok or an excuse to then go and do Abuse on another child.callen said:The thugs were once those darling kids and the environment to which they were subjected created what they became. It's too easy to hate.
I frest my case!
If the thug is pointing the gun at me or my family while breaking into my home,on the street or wherever then he gets what he signed up for.His life becomes less valuable and mine became more valuable in that scenario because he chose his path.
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Yes, and you choose to take his path by assulting him, at the same level he asdsults you... with violence
"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed".- Carl Jung.
"Art does not reproduce what we see; rather, it makes us see."- Paul Klee0
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