Gods and killing...

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Aafke said:

callen said:

hedonist said:

And acknowledge there is good in religion and most members that are peaceful. It's though the goal of religions to convert and plays on humans need of security.

I think, maybe hope, that once the goal of religions was to give people comfort and release, and a sense of community! I think that can be a great gift .. If that's what it provides to you, I'm happy for you, as long as the members are peaceful.... But most religions, or at least some members of these religions, use their religion to feel better about themselves and to look down on humans with a different belief system.

Why do humans have the tendency to focus on the differences between people and proclaim them unequal in value? Why can't we just focus on the things we have in common? Or is just the need to separate the sign of humanity we all have in common? Can we only be part of a community if there is a common opponent?

I think, that at one point in time, religion was used to placate the people and allow fat cats to live high on the hog. I speak mostly towards Christianity when I make this statement, but this religion is hardly exclusive with regards to this notion.

The commoners toiled in the soil looking forward to the 'next life' which promised to be so awesome. Most, if not all, took the bait and while they did... the 'elite' (which included church officials) indulged themselves.

Hopefully, there actually is a Heaven and a next life. That way, all those people that looked so forward to death and the afterlife were rewarded for doing so. If not, well, then I guess they were duped.

catefrances

JWPearl said:

Better to be the killed than the killer because a killer has no everlasting life left in him but the killed will live on.. but each to their own

I have zero issue with defending my life and the lives of my children and grand daughter.

PJ_Soul

Aafke said:

I know a lot of open-minded Jews, Christians and Muslims in my family and friends, I know not every religious person, is a power lusted maniac. and many of the ones with no religious belief at all are. But what I see happening in my society is that very open-minded friends of mine, with different religious backgrounds, are at each others throats all of a sudden, about the conflict in Gaza, people who before the outburst of publicity about this war, where good friends... The religions are polarizing this war. and that scares me...

Personally, I don't believe in any God, because I strongly object against authority. Dictatorships don't work on earth, and men are created in the likeness of God, why would it work in Heaven? Besides every human has some good and some bad in them, and no human is pure good or evil, so why would any human get an eternal punishment or eternal peace? But these are my personal ideas, It doesn't mean at all that those who believe in waht ever religion are less in my opinion, just different, in there religious views...

Live and let live...

But there is no such thing as religious leadership that isn't corrupt and out for power, so don't you see a problem with people - even good people - following a corrupt leadership and supporting that religious government with both their money and faith? Even the kindest Catholic, Baptist, Muslim, Jew, etc, is a part of the problem. If they would all separate themselves from organized religion, then fine. But anyone who is a practicing member of an organized faith is guilty on some level of aiding, abetting, and propagating a corrupt entity IMO. Not that that means they can't also be good people. It seems to me that they are also completely brainwashed by said entity or unwilling or unable to acknowledge or recognize the corruption of their faith. Of course, in other cases, people seem to know it but just don't seem to give a shit.

O:-)

chadwick

buddhists are corrupt & out for power? let's exam this. can you put up a link for clicking that shows information on buddhism being corrupt & hungry for power?

PJ_Soul

chadwick said:

buddhists are corrupt & out for power? let's exam this. can you put up a link for clicking that shows information on buddhism being corrupt & hungry for power?

I don't consider Buddhism a religion.

chadwick

i can accept that

PJ_Soul

#:-S

chadwick

that is fucking hilarious