Ten Club Seniority?

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  • helpme2helpyou
    helpme2helpyou Posts: 127
    People saying the band got tired of seeing the same faces in the front row are speculating; for actual facts on how the band (at least Ed) feels on the matter, get your hands on the 2006 Albany show and listen to the speech before Hide Your Love Away. And for the record, I am a senior member and love the new GA/lottery system; just wish ticket agencies didn't cap fan club percentages.
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  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Chandler, AZ Posts: 1,897
    As a long time 10 club member (1999) I'm perfectly fine with the current system, although I loved the F5 days, there were a few times I couldn't leave work to partake and needed TM to save me.
    Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley (EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix (EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/16, Tempe (EV) 3/3/19, Phoenix 5/9/22,  Tempe (EV) 2/26/23
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    jdopj said:

    CM189191 said:

    jdopj said:

    quimby20 said:

    PP193448 said:

    Losing in the lottery and being shut out for tics sucks for everyone, not just senior members, but everything in life isn't guaranteed either. (Unless you're a real prince or princess or extremely wealthy).
    I would take sitting in the lower section to the side closest to the stage with friends and famiily of the band and A list guests over GA any day. You can show up a few minutes before the first song, come and go as you please, and not have anyone bump into you all night long. No one to have to fight to see over or around. I joined in 2005 and best I had with reserved was about 25 rows back on the floor in Columbus 2010. I would never have the opportunity to be up close unless there was some kind of lottery.
    But yeah, I am sure that the band prob really does get tired of lack of enthusiasm from some of the spoiled senior ten club members who complain that they have heard Alive at 100 shows, and stand motionless during most of the show.

    They are in it for all fans, not just the senior ones. Just feel lucky to have what you have!! You could be worried about where you're next meal is going to come from, rather than whining over seat location at a concert.


    Perfectly said!!!!!
    Not perfectly said. Lots of us in the 10c for 20 years that bring it and appreciate our seats and the shows we go to.
    You haven't been in the 10c for 20 years. You've been in the 10c for 1 year, 20 times.
    Seriously???
    My complaint is the common argument and generalization that all people with a decent member number stand there, don't care and complain. That's bullshit. Period. We can argue what my time in a bands fan club actually means , but don't generalize or agree with a generalization of my behavior or dedication to the band. I believe the basis of newer members arguments are that they aren't not any less fans than more senior members, seems the stereotype you are throwing out there is accusing just that.
    Perhaps you should have read the fine print more closely before you joined. As far as I'm concerned, if you (or anyone else) doesn't like the terms of your arrangement with the 10c, you're more than welcome to step aside and let my member number climb up one more in seniority.
  • PJ and Dylan are my muse
    PJ and Dylan are my muse Posts: 218
    Nah, I'll just sign up everyone in my household next year so I can have more ping pong balls in the kitty (like others have done with their spouses, etc.)...why the F- does it matter anymore? Maybe I'm 10 rows further back; but still ahead of the public.
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  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

    Nah, I'll just sign up everyone in my household next year so I can have more ping pong balls in the kitty (like others have done with their spouses, etc.)...why the F- does it matter anymore? Maybe I'm 10 rows further back; but still ahead of the public.

    And I'm sure your entire family us going to appreciate you dragging them on tour just so you can pick ip tickets. Very selfish,
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    edited May 2014
    eddiec said:

    I'm still trying to figure out if there was more bitching with the F5 fiasco or the lottery. It seems pretty even at this stage. Bitches be bitches.

    I know u are alot of years around..with f-5 we had 5 bitching threads per second..now people realise that is just luck and odds.and with priorities has better chance ro number 1 show than.others goes for more than one shows...before they got screw over internet commection.or cos need to leave.the computer.or need to work or take kids from school.or crush page.or someome knew the tricks to score and pm others how to do it..or any clusterfuck happened...
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  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,283
    I would have to agree that seniority should have something to do with access to tics in your hometown. I also would agree that multiple family memberships have become too common these days, as both spouses can get sets of tics and each get limited merch sales. I would suggest that tenclub limit tic purchases and limited items to 1 per household address, unless it's specifically for men or women, then 1 per gender.
    I have been very fortunate to have won lottery tics for all the shows I've wanted to attend, but that has been to 4 shows sincere is current lottery system began, plus Missoula. But if I hadn't scored tics for those, I would have either not attended or got tics other way, either ask here, TM or broker.
    I wasn't busting on all senior members, cause most I've ever met are cool as hell. Some of you rock out and are grateful for being loyal ten clubbers. But there are some spoiled ones too. Some new members may not be younger, and may have listened to PJ since the beginning too. Just because I joined the fan club in 2005 doesn't mean I didn't already have all their studio CDs and wasn't a fan from Ten. Some persons careers choices or education did not allow them to spend many days, weeks, months touring with the band, or for that matter even affording ten club memberships.
    Times change, so do people. Ten club is just trying to be the most fair to all members. But I would agree that the system can be flawed, like others. Peace. :)>-
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,964
    Seniority in no way should play a part in ticket access. That is very exclusionary and I do not see that happening.

    The hometown thing is always brought up... but it is just way too complicated. Lots of gray area. This system of prioritizing may be as close as we get to hometown priority.
  • moretonbayfig
    moretonbayfig Australia Posts: 805
    It would seem that Pearl Jam and the 10C have always been generous with, and appreciative of the long-term members such that fan expectations have remained high despite the expansion of the member base. As a relatively new member I have been happy with my experiences with the lottery system and I have found that getting to know other members as tour buddies and friends is going to be any members best chance of securing the best tickets available to the shows they want to see. Kindness and friendship is generally reciprocated if invested in the right people, as with any other part of life.
  • LC49684
    LC49684 Posts: 19
    Gmoney said:

    Seniority means nothing now a days... And while I get that this system is inclusive of all fans, you cannot tell me that it doesnt SUCK to pay membership fee's for OVER 20 YEARS and get shut out of a chance to see the band. SMH. If TC had a membership manager or something, I'd be really curious to hear their reasons for me remaining a member. Please TC don't forget how much our fee's have meant to the band and the TC. How about a string of shows where people with TC numbers under 200xxx get first chance to buy? There's gotta be some reward for loyalty....

    I agree about loyalty. The longer you've been in 10C, the more money you have paid for the privilege of retaining your number.
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    This is a Fun little Debate but really it doesn't matter as long as your at a Pearl Jam Show inside listening to there Great Music not caring where your Seat is it's all Good :)

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