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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,337
    Re watching now. Grandma Tyrell for sure! She's going to set up Sansa. If you look close, you can see her take part of Sansa's necklace.

    Yep.
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    edited April 2014
    mca47 said:

    Re watching now. Grandma Tyrell for sure! She's going to set up Sansa. If you look close, you can see her take part of Sansa's necklace.

    Yep.

    I noticed that too but only on the second watch. It was well done and that was the necklace Ser Dontos the fool gave her.
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    she could frame the fool with that piece of necklace too.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Having read the books, it is cool to see everyone's theories on how this went down.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
    ^^ agree!
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  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    I keep saying to my husband - read the books. Even if you're watching the show, there's so much more detail that's really really cool. Bran's whole journey, for example. Sansa and the fool. Theon still bores me to tears though.
  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    edited April 2014
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
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    :D

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
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    That is awesome!

    I loved the buildup again last night. Cant say I exactly understood making Jamie force himself on his sister like that. Those of us who read the books know the timeline was already wonky but he certainly didnt do that. Interesting to see how they are writing him. Such an exciting season still to come!
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Solid episode, lots to do with the characters and directions they will be heading. And Daario taking out the Champion and his horse was pretty sweet.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    F Me In The Brain said:

    I loved the buildup again last night. Cant say I exactly understood making Jamie force himself on his sister like that. Those of us who read the books know the timeline was already wonky but he certainly didnt do that. Interesting to see how they are writing him. Such an exciting season still to come!

    Yeah, that was a weird re-write w/ Jamie.
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  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    edited April 2014
    Jason P said:

    F Me In The Brain said:

    I loved the buildup again last night. Cant say I exactly understood making Jamie force himself on his sister like that. Those of us who read the books know the timeline was already wonky but he certainly didnt do that. Interesting to see how they are writing him. Such an exciting season still to come!

    Yeah, that was a weird re-write w/ Jamie.
    yeah.. they also did that with Drogo and Dany.. it's character assassination i don't get, especially since they're trying to make us like him now..
    and in general it wasn't as well written as the previous episode, written by George R.R. Martin..
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Yarden said:

    yeah.. they also did that with Drogo and Dany.. it's character assassination i don't get, especially since they're trying to make us like him now..
    and in general it wasn't as well written as the previous episode, written by George R.R. Martin..

    Adding the dead son a few feet away in the background is even more weird and odd. I guess overall Martin gets artistic control, but hopefully he isn't starting to drift into "Lucas" mode ... before you know it, Dany and her army of Ewoks will be fighting Gungans in season 7.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
    Jason P said:

    Yarden said:

    yeah.. they also did that with Drogo and Dany.. it's character assassination i don't get, especially since they're trying to make us like him now..
    and in general it wasn't as well written as the previous episode, written by George R.R. Martin..

    Adding the dead son a few feet away in the background is even more weird and odd. I guess overall Martin gets artistic control, but hopefully he isn't starting to drift into "Lucas" mode ... before you know it, Dany and her army of Ewoks will be fighting Gungans in season 7.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,337
    Yarden said:

    Jason P said:

    F Me In The Brain said:

    I loved the buildup again last night. Cant say I exactly understood making Jamie force himself on his sister like that. Those of us who read the books know the timeline was already wonky but he certainly didnt do that. Interesting to see how they are writing him. Such an exciting season still to come!

    Yeah, that was a weird re-write w/ Jamie.
    yeah.. they also did that with Drogo and Dany.. it's character assassination i don't get, especially since they're trying to make us like him now..
    and in general it wasn't as well written as the previous episode, written by George R.R. Martin..
    As a non book reader, I assumed they wrote him that way. A "you start pulling for him....liking him and he does that" kinda thing. Like how we started liking/sympathizing with the Hound and he goes robbing the poor family that took him in....or how nobody can be happy.....and if they are, they die.
  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    edited April 2014
    mca47 said:

    Yarden said:

    Jason P said:

    F Me In The Brain said:

    I loved the buildup again last night. Cant say I exactly understood making Jamie force himself on his sister like that. Those of us who read the books know the timeline was already wonky but he certainly didnt do that. Interesting to see how they are writing him. Such an exciting season still to come!

    Yeah, that was a weird re-write w/ Jamie.
    yeah.. they also did that with Drogo and Dany.. it's character assassination i don't get, especially since they're trying to make us like him now..
    and in general it wasn't as well written as the previous episode, written by George R.R. Martin..
    As a non book reader, I assumed they wrote him that way. A "you start pulling for him....liking him and he does that" kinda thing. Like how we started liking/sympathizing with the Hound and he goes robbing the poor family that took him in....or how nobody can be happy.....and if they are, they die.
    for me, once someone on the show is a rapist, i can't really get behind the character.. i could never really like Drogo that much in the show because of that.. and yet i felt like they wanted us to root for Dany and Drogo as a couple in the show..
    so do i go with my preception of Jaime as he is in the books or the show, while watching? it's confusing..
    i guess i just need to remind myself of the other horrible things he did and then it won't matter,,
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  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    Yarden said:

    mca47 said:

    Yarden said:

    Jason P said:

    F Me In The Brain said:

    I loved the buildup again last night. Cant say I exactly understood making Jamie force himself on his sister like that. Those of us who read the books know the timeline was already wonky but he certainly didnt do that. Interesting to see how they are writing him. Such an exciting season still to come!

    Yeah, that was a weird re-write w/ Jamie.
    yeah.. they also did that with Drogo and Dany.. it's character assassination i don't get, especially since they're trying to make us like him now..
    and in general it wasn't as well written as the previous episode, written by George R.R. Martin..
    As a non book reader, I assumed they wrote him that way. A "you start pulling for him....liking him and he does that" kinda thing. Like how we started liking/sympathizing with the Hound and he goes robbing the poor family that took him in....or how nobody can be happy.....and if they are, they die.
    for me, once someone on the show is a rapist, i can't really get behind the character.. i could never really like Drogo that much in the show because of that.. and yet i felt like they wanted us to root for Dany and Drogo as a couple in the show..
    so do i go with my preception of Jaime as he is in the books or the show, while watching? it's confusing..
    i guess i just need to remind myself of the other horrible things he did and then it won't matter,,
    I read something today that the show writers said that it wasn't a rape scene. I guess they failed on sharing their vision with the audience cause most people saw it as that.

    I think the change in character will be to show how good Jaime can be, but around his sister he always becomes the worst person he can become.

    *Semi-Spoiler*.......I think it will make his decisions later interesting, and that is where he may realize Cersei brings out the worst in him. When he gets that note in the 4th book, maybe my favorite Jaime moment!. Who knows if that will make it into the show, but I hope it does.

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  • Enkidu
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    PearlJamaholic said:

    Yarden said:

    mca47 said:

    Yarden said:

    Jason P said:

    F Me In The Brain said:

    I loved the buildup again last night. Cant say I exactly understood making Jamie force himself on his sister like that. Those of us who read the books know the timeline was already wonky but he certainly didnt do that. Interesting to see how they are writing him. Such an exciting season still to come!

    Yeah, that was a weird re-write w/ Jamie.
    yeah.. they also did that with Drogo and Dany.. it's character assassination i don't get, especially since they're trying to make us like him now..
    and in general it wasn't as well written as the previous episode, written by George R.R. Martin..
    As a non book reader, I assumed they wrote him that way. A "you start pulling for him....liking him and he does that" kinda thing. Like how we started liking/sympathizing with the Hound and he goes robbing the poor family that took him in....or how nobody can be happy.....and if they are, they die.
    for me, once someone on the show is a rapist, i can't really get behind the character.. i could never really like Drogo that much in the show because of that.. and yet i felt like they wanted us to root for Dany and Drogo as a couple in the show..
    so do i go with my preception of Jaime as he is in the books or the show, while watching? it's confusing..
    i guess i just need to remind myself of the other horrible things he did and then it won't matter,,
    I read something today that the show writers said that it wasn't a rape scene. I guess they failed on sharing their vision with the audience cause most people saw it as that.

    I think the change in character will be to show how good Jaime can be, but around his sister he always becomes the worst person he can become.

    *Semi-Spoiler*.......I think it will make his decisions later interesting, and that is where he may realize Cersei brings out the worst in him. When he gets that note in the 4th book, maybe my favorite Jaime moment!. Who knows if that will make it into the show, but I hope it does.

    I saw that too - that it wasn't really "rape." Uh, it sure seemed that way. But I like what you said about Jaime - and how his sister brings out the worst in him. And I've read the books so I also agree with what you say about Jaime in the future. It's surprising how he turns out to be one of the most interesting characters in the books (as opposed to my least favorite - snore - Theon).

  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    HA! Whew ... Allrighty then ..

    Good for the writers. Of course it wasn't a rape scene. Just a brother and sister making love inches away from the corpse of their incest born son. I'm glad the writers cleared that up.

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
    Yeah, I love what they are doing with the books and dont want to see this climb down into a discussion on sexual assault but the very fact that Cersei said no repeatedly and he did it anyway makes me shake my head at their saying it wasn't forced. As PearlJamaholic stated, clearly they left something to the imagination that they thought was evident if there was something indicating that was not him forcing himself on her. Also, if memory serves, in the books it was a passionate reunion as Jamie showed up after Joff had been aced out.
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