*** Tampa Fanviews Here 6/12/2008 ***

rrivers wrote:

pjtaper does seem to be pretty negative, but I agree that they could end without Alive and YLB.

You people are just going to have to come to grips with the fact that the band is gonna play a couple hits here and there. I've heard a rumor that some people don't go to every show, or buy every boot ... Alive and Ledbetter are for them.

iam_NOTREAL wrote:

Wow, I don't come around here much but I do have to say I expected a lot more grousing about the setlists...especially the number of repeats between WPB and Tampa...very nice not to see that.

We get spoiled with a band like PJ because they mix it up a good bit from night to night...far more than average for a band of their scale...but really all any band owes its fans is an honest performance, and they delivered that both nights in spades. I took such exception with the Miami Herald's review of West Palm because the reviewer just griped on the setlist...they didn't play enough well known songs...but it's not WHAT they play, it's HOW they play it. Duh.

I disagree that all a band owes its fans is an honest performance. Fans know that Pearl Jam mixes up the setlist on different nights which is one of the reasons that so many people go to multiple shows. I don't think it's too much to ask for 2 shows which are in cities close together or the same city on multiple nights have different setlists. I'm not saying they have to play super rare songs, just different songs. I actually didn't think the setlists for those two nights were that bad, but I was disappointed when I saw them in 06 at all 3 SF shows and every night they played Alive, Even Flow, and Life Wasted. I thought Ed's solo shows could have had a more varied setlist too.

rrivers wrote:

Read my next post. There are other songs they can play that are popular. I'm not asking them to play "Brother".

although, now that you mention it, that would be cool

rrivers wrote:

I disagree that all a band owes its fans is an honest performance. Fans know that Pearl Jam mixes up the setlist on different nights which is one of the reasons that so many people go to multiple shows. I don't think it's too much to ask for 2 shows which are in cities close together or the same city on multiple nights have different setlists.

Do we really have to go through this on every tour?

They've played 48 songs between the two dates so far on this tour. Forty (40) of them were played only at one show or the other. That's 40 unique songs already. 40!!!!

If you want more unique-ness than that, your expectations are just way too ridiculous.

rrivers wrote:

I disagree that all a band owes its fans is an honest performance. Fans know that Pearl Jam mixes up the setlist on different nights which is one of the reasons that so many people go to multiple shows. I don't think it's too much to ask for 2 shows which are in cities close together or the same city on multiple nights have different setlists.

I'm not looking for any trouble here, but I have to say that this is an argument that has always driven me nuts.

Pearl Jam has no control over who goes to what shows. Is it reasonable to assume a lot people in West Palm Beach were also going to Tampa? Maybe. Maybe not. Depends. I went to both nights, and I'm sure a lot of others did, and a lot also didn't. Should this factor into the composition of the setlist? In my opinion, not at all.

But oh well, this could go round and around for awhile...I have nothing further to add, so I'll just bid adieu to this line of discussion and let others carry it forth if they will. Peace.

i gotta admit, for the record, the last 2 shows i've been to i took casual PJ fans with me (different people for each show) and those popular songs people complain about like YL are what absolutely made the show for most of my friends. Several of them are die-hards now because of the mass singalongs and actually appreciate the hidden gems but still, you gotta remember those who post on this board are the minority of show attendees.


that being said those of you who heard faithful in WPB, i am envious. will definitely be getting that boot

I saw some people with some nice zoom cameras. My camera sux... zoom was fuzzy and the pics came out dark. I did get really nice one of E jumping mid air with guitar that i have no idea how to post on here(please tell me how and i will!). If anyone has a nice close up of Ed's face, please share. i wasnt close but would love to see one. Thanks!
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slightofjeff wrote:

You people are just going to have to come to grips with the fact that the band is gonna play a couple hits here and there. I've heard a rumor that some people don't go to every show, or buy every boot ... Alive and Ledbetter are for them.

i wish i could go to every show. i am a die hard fan and have only been to four shows...i have to work to survive unfortunately. i hope people dont equate not going to every show with being a casual fan....

Thierry Henry wrote:

Don't all answer at once anyway

No. It wasn't.

I was stoked to see Yellow Ledbetter last night! Of course it was the first time I've gotten to see it live...but I knew it was coming and still I was quite happy. The next time I get the privilege of seeing PJ live, I would be equally stoked again to see it. I didn't sing along during Alive/YL (well as good as possible) I was just taking in the moment. I don't understand the griping to be honest, I'm glad to see most people aren't doing it. As one poster pointed out they played 40 unique songs in 2 days! Tampa obviously was more "hit" or "sing along" intensive but the crowds intensity/energy was great and the band was on. Really what more could you really expect. Would you really expect them to play a 35 song set with 15 rare songs in the South anyway? I love them but go watch the RHCP or Weezer or almost any other act 2 shows in a row/on the same tour and you MAY get 2 songs that are different, if you're lucky.