Let Your Voice Be Heard

(life is too short to scroll thru and see if this has been mentioned before, so apologies if it has)

I woke up this morning and for the first time in years wanted to send 10c a letter...and then I came on here and found this thread (you got me, I don't hang out here that often).

I got my copy of DEEP yesterday. As always, beautifully designed (cheers Regan), with excellent production values. But as always, a bit light on actual content. How many of these do you make every year these days - one? And it seems like lots of effort goes into how it looks and feels, but there's just not much to read...and what IS there is filler - I mean really, how many pages do you need for a goat meat recipe?? (says the vegetarian).
I like the notes from the band members - just one this time tho, a lovely one from Jeff, but still - everyone else too busy this year to drop us a line? The thing 'from' Ed was just the playlist from his radio show (we're not stupid). I like the one-on-one interview (usually the only real content, if you ask me), but a transcript of a conversation only works if what the people are saying makes sense written down - this time it didn't. Sorry Mike, i love ya but you need editing. I really liked the Vitalogy Foundation information... but - and here's where you could have got some more content in - why not print that story about PJ that jeff liked instead of sending us to the web to read it? I always like reading letters from other fans - this time I just got a photo of a teddy in a mailroom. Ripped off.
Does Deep have an editor? Or do you just throw 10pages of un-edited random text at Regan and tell him to fill 48pages with it? Its not a cheap exercise, printing a nice wee full colour perfect-bound-with-fold-outs magazine, I really feel like you are wasting an oppourtunity to share some meaningful stuff with us - or maybe even with each other. Ask the fans to contribute! We would! Hell we would! Make an effort with the content, please - getting DEEP in the mailbox should make me excited but it just makes me sad. And a little bit mad.
xx

knitted wrote:

(life is too short to scroll thru and see if this has been mentioned before, so apologies if it has)

I woke up this morning and for the first time in years wanted to send 10c a letter...and then I came on here and found this thread (you got me, I don't hang out here that often).

I got my copy of DEEP yesterday. As always, beautifully designed (cheers Regan), with excellent production values. But as always, a bit light on actual content. How many of these do you make every year these days - one? And it seems like lots of effort goes into how it looks and feels, but there's just not much to read...and what IS there is filler - I mean really, how many pages do you need for a goat meat recipe?? (says the vegetarian).
I like the notes from the band members - just one this time tho, a lovely one from Jeff, but still - everyone else too busy this year to drop us a line? The thing 'from' Ed was just the playlist from his radio show (we're not stupid). I like the one-on-one interview (usually the only real content, if you ask me), but a transcript of a conversation only works if what the people are saying makes sense written down - this time it didn't. Sorry Mike, i love ya but you need editing. I really liked the Vitalogy Foundation information... but - and here's where you could have got some more content in - why not print that story about PJ that jeff liked instead of sending us to the web to read it? I always like reading letters from other fans - this time I just got a photo of a teddy in a mailroom. Ripped off.
Does Deep have an editor? Or do you just throw 10pages of un-edited random text at Regan and tell him to fill 48pages with it? Its not a cheap exercise, printing a nice wee full colour perfect-bound-with-fold-outs magazine, I really feel like you are wasting an oppourtunity to share some meaningful stuff with us - or maybe even with each other. Ask the fans to contribute! We would! Hell we would! Make an effort with the content, please - getting DEEP in the mailbox should make me excited but it just makes me sad. And a little bit mad.
xx

I totally agree with this. When such a high standard for production, the Deep mag has no substance at all, which is surprising - I would have thought that the band thinks that there is value in substance. I don't want to sound ungrateful, because I do recognize the work that did go into this thing, and that's cool, and it is a very pretty little book! But without any meaningful content at all, I feel like it's ultimately just a waste of 10C's time and money. And it really wouldn't take much more work to include content. I mean, a solid letter from each band member to the fans could be in there (not just a "thanks!" letter, but where they actually say something interesting), maybe a thoughtful article or two written by some of them about their current philanthropic work or something, or their own impressions of a particular show they did, whatever. Just stuff that the fans actually want to read, and, I would hope, stuff that the band wants to pass on.

knitted wrote:

(life is too short to scroll thru and see if this has been mentioned before, so apologies if it has)

I woke up this morning and for the first time in years wanted to send 10c a letter...and then I came on here and found this thread (you got me, I don't hang out here that often).

I got my copy of DEEP yesterday. As always, beautifully designed (cheers Regan), with excellent production values. But as always, a bit light on actual content. How many of these do you make every year these days - one? And it seems like lots of effort goes into how it looks and feels, but there's just not much to read...and what IS there is filler - I mean really, how many pages do you need for a goat meat recipe?? (says the vegetarian).
I like the notes from the band members - just one this time tho, a lovely one from Jeff, but still - everyone else too busy this year to drop us a line? The thing 'from' Ed was just the playlist from his radio show (we're not stupid). I like the one-on-one interview (usually the only real content, if you ask me), but a transcript of a conversation only works if what the people are saying makes sense written down - this time it didn't. Sorry Mike, i love ya but you need editing. I really liked the Vitalogy Foundation information... but - and here's where you could have got some more content in - why not print that story about PJ that jeff liked instead of sending us to the web to read it? I always like reading letters from other fans - this time I just got a photo of a teddy in a mailroom. Ripped off.
Does Deep have an editor? Or do you just throw 10pages of un-edited random text at Regan and tell him to fill 48pages with it? Its not a cheap exercise, printing a nice wee full colour perfect-bound-with-fold-outs magazine, I really feel like you are wasting an oppourtunity to share some meaningful stuff with us - or maybe even with each other. Ask the fans to contribute! We would! Hell we would! Make an effort with the content, please - getting DEEP in the mailbox should make me excited but it just makes me sad. And a little bit mad.
xx

Agreed. And, how does it make sense to include Ten Club Analog and Digital Membership information in a newsletter for 10 Club members, who have access to the website already and all the information about what the memberships cost and include? Maybe, if this was something on the newstand or supermarket magazine aisle, but it's a membership newsletter, for cryin' out loud!

knitted wrote:

(life is too short to scroll thru and see if this has been mentioned before, so apologies if it has)

I woke up this morning and for the first time in years wanted to send 10c a letter...and then I came on here and found this thread (you got me, I don't hang out here that often).

I got my copy of DEEP yesterday. As always, beautifully designed (cheers Regan), with excellent production values. But as always, a bit light on actual content. How many of these do you make every year these days - one? And it seems like lots of effort goes into how it looks and feels, but there's just not much to read...and what IS there is filler - I mean really, how many pages do you need for a goat meat recipe?? (says the vegetarian).
I like the notes from the band members - just one this time tho, a lovely one from Jeff, but still - everyone else too busy this year to drop us a line? The thing 'from' Ed was just the playlist from his radio show (we're not stupid). I like the one-on-one interview (usually the only real content, if you ask me), but a transcript of a conversation only works if what the people are saying makes sense written down - this time it didn't. Sorry Mike, i love ya but you need editing. I really liked the Vitalogy Foundation information... but - and here's where you could have got some more content in - why not print that story about PJ that jeff liked instead of sending us to the web to read it? I always like reading letters from other fans - this time I just got a photo of a teddy in a mailroom. Ripped off.
Does Deep have an editor? Or do you just throw 10pages of un-edited random text at Regan and tell him to fill 48pages with it? Its not a cheap exercise, printing a nice wee full colour perfect-bound-with-fold-outs magazine, I really feel like you are wasting an oppourtunity to share some meaningful stuff with us - or maybe even with each other. Ask the fans to contribute! We would! Hell we would! Make an effort with the content, please - getting DEEP in the mailbox should make me excited but it just makes me sad. And a little bit mad.
xx

Some good points. I love the Deep Mag and really look forward to it but just a little more substance would be great! Give me more about what other bands the guys are listening to or a couple more interviews with other artists. Agreed the interview is the best thing every issue. Like knitted said, I understand and appreciate all the effort that goes into Deep and it is a GREAT looking mag, but a little more input and content from the guys would be awesome!

Excellent point. Thanks!

PJ_Soul wrote:

knitted wrote:

(life is too short to scroll thru and see if this has been mentioned before, so apologies if it has)

I woke up this morning and for the first time in years wanted to send 10c a letter...and then I came on here and found this thread (you got me, I don't hang out here that often).

I got my copy of DEEP yesterday. As always, beautifully designed (cheers Regan), with excellent production values. But as always, a bit light on actual content. How many of these do you make every year these days - one? And it seems like lots of effort goes into how it looks and feels, but there's just not much to read...and what IS there is filler - I mean really, how many pages do you need for a goat meat recipe?? (says the vegetarian).
I like the notes from the band members - just one this time tho, a lovely one from Jeff, but still - everyone else too busy this year to drop us a line? The thing 'from' Ed was just the playlist from his radio show (we're not stupid). I like the one-on-one interview (usually the only real content, if you ask me), but a transcript of a conversation only works if what the people are saying makes sense written down - this time it didn't. Sorry Mike, i love ya but you need editing. I really liked the Vitalogy Foundation information... but - and here's where you could have got some more content in - why not print that story about PJ that jeff liked instead of sending us to the web to read it? I always like reading letters from other fans - this time I just got a photo of a teddy in a mailroom. Ripped off.
Does Deep have an editor? Or do you just throw 10pages of un-edited random text at Regan and tell him to fill 48pages with it? Its not a cheap exercise, printing a nice wee full colour perfect-bound-with-fold-outs magazine, I really feel like you are wasting an oppourtunity to share some meaningful stuff with us - or maybe even with each other. Ask the fans to contribute! We would! Hell we would! Make an effort with the content, please - getting DEEP in the mailbox should make me excited but it just makes me sad. And a little bit mad.
xx

I totally agree with this. When such a high standard for production, the Deep mag has no substance at all, which is surprising - I would have thought that the band thinks that there is value in substance. I don't want to sound ungrateful, because I do recognize the work that did go into this thing, and that's cool, and it is a very pretty little book! But without any meaningful content at all, I feel like it's ultimately just a waste of 10C's time and money. And it really wouldn't take much more work to include content. I mean, a solid letter from each band member to the fans could be in there (not just a "thanks!" letter, but where they actually say something interesting), maybe a thoughtful article or two written by some of them about their current philanthropic work or something, or their own impressions of a particular show they did, whatever. Just stuff that the fans actually want to read, and, I would hope, stuff that the band wants to pass on.

I agree with you both 100%. I'll try not repeat what's already been said but its an AWESOME mag the way its produced, bound, the way it feels (and smells). That part you have down. But content is lacking. I would like to see maybe some perforated postcards you can tear out or a competition for Analog members only. Maybe something along the lines of having to cut out a form, fill it in (with REAL ink) and ... wait for it ... having to walk to the post office to POST IT!

I've just blown your minds

Ok.....

You have had your UK tour, you've had your South American tour, you have got your US shows coming up.....So stop @!#*ing around and announce an AUSSIE tour already..................PLEASE

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but I thought I would add my 2-cents.

I'm an analog member and recently received the 2013 gift (print, stickers, patch). It's a nice gesture to include this with the analog memberships however I think the effort is a little misguided for two reasons:

1) We got the same thing last year, and while it's a nice to have, most of us 10club members are probably closer to middle-age than we are to teenagers who are going to put stickers on our lockers or binders or skateboards. So just a thought that something like the t-shirts is more practical.

2) We are all fans of the band Pearl Jam, we are not fans of a fan club. Why are these gifts not "Pearl Jam" branded items? Even a photo of the band could be better than something that says 10C.

Just my 2-cents. Otherwise, thanks for all your hard work!

if you are going to take pre orders for something, like the Mad Season deluxe reissue, PLEASE TELL US IF THE SAME VERSION WILL BE AVAILABLE COMMERCIALLY. It's a shit thing to do to make fans believe for lack of information otherwise to order it from this site and wait until god knows when to get it in the mail, when they could have just gone to their local store and bought it on release day.

i would like to see a notification box or something near the 'new messages' and 'view your posts' to see if someone quoted my post, in case i was looking for a question to be answered, rather then scrolling through a thread to see if someone did.