"The infamous clothesline question. . . " smh
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I can't believe this. http://www.dryingforfreedom.com/
Don't get me wrong. There are certain articles of clothing, I don't want hung outside. They get hard and a little uncomfortable.
But why is it illegal to hang out your clothes. And someone in the US was shot and killed simply because he wanted to dry his clothes outdoors? WTF! :wtf:
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"The US uses 25% of the world's energy and has 4% of the world's population. If the other people around the globe follow our bad example, the whole planet is driven toward disaster."
Don't get me wrong. There are certain articles of clothing, I don't want hung outside. They get hard and a little uncomfortable.
But why is it illegal to hang out your clothes. And someone in the US was shot and killed simply because he wanted to dry his clothes outdoors? WTF! :wtf:Take part in the Drying for Freedom “Hanging Out Festival” (April 19 - May 5) a global festival uniting environmental enthusiasts organizing screenings of the award-winning environmental documentary DRYING FOR FREEDOM to help raise awareness of how we can all make a difference.
For more information check out http://www.hangingoutfestival.com
"The US uses 25% of the world's energy and has 4% of the world's population. If the other people around the globe follow our bad example, the whole planet is driven toward disaster."
And the sun it may be shining . . . but there's an ocean in my eyes
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It can be an eyesore. I wouldn't be happy if my neighbors were stringing up their laundry. It gives a feeling of being in a slum a littl bit IMO. But people generally need to calm the fuck down and be more tolerant of other people's behaviour. Sometimes things just aren't going to please everyone - that's life.
That said, I'm in support of bylaws banning the hanging of laundry outside where it can be seen by others.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
We used to dry some of our clothes on the line in our backyard when I was a kid. Always loved the smell - can't duplicate that with scented detergent! We could see our next-door neighbor doing the same...never bothered me or, as far as I can tell, my parents either.
But, it's not always doable or realistic. Our condo, for example, has bylaws on what can be kept or hung on our balconies. It's not always about those evil energy users - sometimes it's just...how things are.
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We humans here in North America are so petty with what's kosher and what's not :oops: fucking pathetic how da fuck someone's clothe drying in the air any of your concern they are someone elses clothes what is it blocking the view of the sky :oops: :oops: i'ts never bothered me than again i was brought up in a 3rd world country where everybody does it ....Leave it to the Americans to be all bothered by this :fp: :fp:jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Ya know, it's bullshit that it's an eyesore. You know what's an eyesore? Broken appliances, littered trash in the ditches, junked cars in fields and in people's yards. Apparently there's no widespread law about those. (littering may be illegal yet it's still everywhere. Hang your clothes out and you lose the clothes line and get fined).
You simply cannot compare drying clothes and sheets to junkyard eyesores.
The country expending the greatest amount of energy needs to get a grip at what's truly an eyesore, and to lay off back-to-basic ways of doing things without using up energy. I put my sheets and clothes out on my clothesline, there's no better and cheaper way to dry them. Good thing I live rurally, because tight-assed housing developments have a problem with everything that doesn't look 1st world perfect.Post edited by Jeanwah on0 -
It's all in the eye of the beholder.Jeanwah wrote:Ya know, it's bullshit that it's an eyesore. You know what's an eyesore? Broken appliances, littered trash in the ditches, junked cars in fields and in people's yards. Apparently there's no widespread law about those. (littering may be illegal yet it's still everywhere. Hang your clothes out and you lose the clothes line and get fined).
You simply cannot compare drying clothes and sheets to junkyard eyesores.
The country expending the greatest amount of energy needs to get a grip at what's truly an eyesore, and to lay off back-to-basic ways of doing things without using up energy. I put my sheets and clothes out on my clothesline, there's no better and cheaper way to dry them. Good thing I live rurally, because tight-assed housing developments have a problem with everything that doesn't look 1st world perfect.
I think it's an eyesore. Just as bad as junked cars in the front yard. Graffiti, on the other hand, is not an eyesore to me, yet the city keeps painting over it. It's just a matter of opinion.
And there are other ways to hang dry clothes than to string it up for all to see. I hang or flat dry probably 70% of the clothes that I wear, but I do so inside on racks made for this purpose. Got them at Ikea for $10 each. My neighbors don't have to look at that mess. Lucky them.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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It's all in the eye of the beholder.Jeanwah wrote:Ya know, it's bullshit that it's an eyesore. You know what's an eyesore? Broken appliances, littered trash in the ditches, junked cars in fields and in people's yards. Apparently there's no widespread law about those. (littering may be illegal yet it's still everywhere. Hang your clothes out and you lose the clothes line and get fined).
You simply cannot compare drying clothes and sheets to junkyard eyesores.
The country expending the greatest amount of energy needs to get a grip at what's truly an eyesore, and to lay off back-to-basic ways of doing things without using up energy. I put my sheets and clothes out on my clothesline, there's no better and cheaper way to dry them. Good thing I live rurally, because tight-assed housing developments have a problem with everything that doesn't look 1st world perfect.
I think it's an eyesore. Just as bad as junked cars in the front yard. Graffiti, on the other hand, is not an eyesore to me, yet the city keeps painting over it. It's just a matter of opinion.
And there are other ways to hang dry clothes than to string it up for all to see. I hang or flat dry probably 70% of the clothes that I wear, but I do so inside on racks made for this purpose. Got them at Ikea for $10 each. My neighbors don't have to look at that mess. Lucky them.
See, that's 1st world asthetics for ya! "It's ugly! Eek! Make it go away!!!!" Tell me, in what way does someone's laundry infringe on you?? Or what someone does in their bedroom for that matter? It DOESN'T.
That mindset also prevents us from erecting solar panels and wind turbines in the U.S. as well.
Developments are not only known for fining and eradicating clothes lines, they're doing it to solar and wind energy as well. And people wonder why we're not as advanced in renewables as other countries are... :roll:0 -
I don't have "mindset". I like solar panels and wind turbines. Stop paining me with a brush please. I simply think a bunch of clothes hanging out on strings looks bad.Jeanwah wrote:PJ_Soul wrote:
It's all in the eye of the beholder.Jeanwah wrote:Ya know, it's bullshit that it's an eyesore. You know what's an eyesore? Broken appliances, littered trash in the ditches, junked cars in fields and in people's yards. Apparently there's no widespread law about those. (littering may be illegal yet it's still everywhere. Hang your clothes out and you lose the clothes line and get fined).
You simply cannot compare drying clothes and sheets to junkyard eyesores.
The country expending the greatest amount of energy needs to get a grip at what's truly an eyesore, and to lay off back-to-basic ways of doing things without using up energy. I put my sheets and clothes out on my clothesline, there's no better and cheaper way to dry them. Good thing I live rurally, because tight-assed housing developments have a problem with everything that doesn't look 1st world perfect.
I think it's an eyesore. Just as bad as junked cars in the front yard. Graffiti, on the other hand, is not an eyesore to me, yet the city keeps painting over it. It's just a matter of opinion.
And there are other ways to hang dry clothes than to string it up for all to see. I hang or flat dry probably 70% of the clothes that I wear, but I do so inside on racks made for this purpose. Got them at Ikea for $10 each. My neighbors don't have to look at that mess. Lucky them.
See, that's 1st world asthetics for ya! "It's ugly! Eek! Make it go away!!!!" That mindset also prevents us from erecting solar panels and wind turbines in the U.S. as well.
Developments are not only known for fining and eradicating clothes lines, they're doing it to solar and wind energy as well. And people wonder why we're not as advanced in renewables as other countries are... :roll:
But also, I am not ashamed of being influenced by the culture that I am from. "1st World aesthetics?" "It's ugly! Eek! Make it go away!" .... Um, yeah, I'd rather not look at shit that I think is ugly. I don't think people in the 3rd world like to either. It's just that they don't have a choice in the matter. :fp: You think that people in the 3rd world would turn down a washer/dryer if they were offered it???? Um, no.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I'm not saying everybody should have to hang out their clothes. And I am not the energy police. But up to 10% of a household's energy going to the clothes dryer. Air drying saves money, energy, helps clothes last longer, decreases risk of dryer fires and may slow climate change.
The way I see it - every little bit helps. When we bought our current home, I specifically did not want a homeowner's association, and I wanted a clothesline. I was so happy when it was already here, installed by the previous owners who were moving back to Taiwan. My friend who is in France does not own a dryer. She lives in the French Alps and always hangs her clothes outside. As I said before, I don't hang everything on it, but is a great place to dry a comforter, or to hand a soggy sleeping bag from a winter camping trip.
I get that it's not for everybody, but why would an entire community ban it when we are faced with the electrical troubles - old grid, not enough power plants, rolling blackouts in summer - that we already have?
I guess the good news is that some states are making it illegal to ban the clotheslines, including Vermont, Colorado and Maine. Yippee -- mine's in there.And the sun it may be shining . . . but there's an ocean in my eyes0 -
PJ_Soul wrote:: You think that people in the 3rd world would turn down a washer/dryer if they were offered it???? Um, no.
Do you think our climate can take the rest of the world living up to our "ideals" and using 10% more energy than they do in the process?And the sun it may be shining . . . but there's an ocean in my eyes0 -
love you the mostjosevolution wrote:We humans here in North America are so petty with what's kosher and what's not :oops: fucking pathetic how da fuck someone's clothe drying in the air any of your concern they are someone elses clothes what is it blocking the view of the sky :oops: :oops: i'ts never bothered me than again i was brought up in a 3rd world country where everybody does it ....Leave it to the Americans to be all bothered by this :fp: :fp:
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americans are sissies & pansy ass candy ass pricks who can't look at laundry hanging in another fucker's back yard & they can't look at a frickin woodpile for someone's wood stove!... "you gotta move that shit out back"
some places you can't even put in a god damn garden or park a small camper or boat in your own driveway
this is preposterous
im moving to god damn where ever it is
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love you the mostjosevolution wrote:We humans here in North America are so petty with what's kosher and what's not :oops: fucking pathetic how da fuck someone's clothe drying in the air any of your concern they are someone elses clothes what is it blocking the view of the sky :oops: :oops: i'ts never bothered me than again i was brought up in a 3rd world country where everybody does it ....Leave it to the Americans to be all bothered by this :fp: :fp:
at pearl jam we sit together
americans are sissies & pansy ass candy ass pricks who can't look at laundry hanging in another fucker's back yard & they can't look at a frickin woodpile for someone's wood stove!... "you gotta move that shit out back"
some places you can't even put in a god damn garden or park a small camper or boat in your own driveway
this is preposterous
im moving to god damn where ever it is
You can move here. Rural Upstate.
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PJ_Soul wrote:I don't have "mindset". I like solar panels and wind turbines. Stop paining me with a brush please. I simply think a bunch of clothes hanging out on strings looks bad.
But also, I am not ashamed of being influenced by the culture that I am from. "1st World aesthetics?" "It's ugly! Eek! Make it go away!" .... Um, yeah, I'd rather not look at shit that I think is ugly. I don't think people in the 3rd world like to either. It's just that they don't have a choice in the matter. :fp: You think that people in the 3rd world would turn down a washer/dryer if they were offered it???? Um, no.
Ya know what 3rd world people wouldn't turn away? Clean water. They couldn't care less about a clothes dryer. They need Clean Water!!!0 -
When I think of how many years I used a clothesline, I'm kinda flabbergasted that people consider them eyesores. It's not like my clothes were hanging out there 24/7. And I also have one of those drying racks. They're handy in bad weather but they won't handle a whole load of laundry or a large item like a quilt or comforter."The stars are all connected to the brain."0
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:clap: :clap: :clap: :thumbup:Jeanwah wrote:PJ_Soul wrote:I don't have "mindset". I like solar panels and wind turbines. Stop paining me with a brush please. I simply think a bunch of clothes hanging out on strings looks bad.
But also, I am not ashamed of being influenced by the culture that I am from. "1st World aesthetics?" "It's ugly! Eek! Make it go away!" .... Um, yeah, I'd rather not look at shit that I think is ugly. I don't think people in the 3rd world like to either. It's just that they don't have a choice in the matter. :fp: You think that people in the 3rd world would turn down a washer/dryer if they were offered it???? Um, no.
Ya know what 3rd world people wouldn't turn away? Clean water. They couldn't care less about a clothes dryer. They need Clean Water!!!And the sun it may be shining . . . but there's an ocean in my eyes0 -
No. I'm not saying they SHOULD be offered washer/dryers. I'm just saying that this 3rd world vs 1st world aesthetic idea that Jeanwah mentioned doesn't hold up. I absolutely don't expect the rest of the world to "strive" towards our "ideals". On the contrary. But very poor people aren't hanging laundry because they love the appearance of old clothes hanging all over the place. That is the point I'm making.oceaninmyeyes wrote:PJ_Soul wrote:: You think that people in the 3rd world would turn down a washer/dryer if they were offered it???? Um, no.
Do you think our climate can take the rest of the world living up to our "ideals" and using 10% more energy than they do in the process?With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Is this really a big deal?
COME ON PEOPLE
Home owners association. Don't you have the right to not live in one? Shouldn't you read what you can or cannot do before you agree to it?
Make it illegal to make it against the rules?
I must be missing something here.
In Tacoma I doubt my clothes would ever get dry if I put them outside except for the summer month or two. 0 -
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It's not really the same if you're talking about city bylaws though, and many cities do have a bylaw that you can't have laundry hanging in view of the street (at least).whgarrett wrote:Is this really a big deal?
COME ON PEOPLE
Home owners association. Don't you have the right to not live in one? Shouldn't you read what you can or cannot do before you agree to it?
Make it illegal to make it against the rules?
I must be missing something here.
In Tacoma I doubt my clothes would ever get dry if I put them outside except for the summer month or two.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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