"The infamous clothesline question. . . " smh

chadwick

some places won't allow you to have a pool in your backyard unless underground. all above ground pools will be lit of fire immediately

whgarrett

That is a little ridiculous, but how hard is it to hide from the street?

PJ_Soul

whgarrett wrote:

That is a little ridiculous, but how hard is it to hide from the street?

It depends, right? It would be impossible if your lot is on a corner with a lower fence, for example. Or in a townhouse complex. There are plenty of back yards that can be seen.

chadwick

living in america is very teenage girly

actually worse

we're talkin real fucked up. you can't be a fucking american anymore. you can't have a god damn basketball hoop set-up in your driveway hooked onto your garage

your yard aint got a old ass LTD on bricks does it? your high dollar bullshit neighbors might be calling the law on ya & cause granny's hanging out her old bras & fancy old people underwears

america these days is for the fragile
fact

PJ_Soul

chadwick wrote:

living in america is very teenage girly

actually worse

we're talkin real fucked up. you can't be a fucking american anymore. you can't have a god damn basketball hoop set-up in your driveway hooked onto your garage

your yard aint got a old ass LTD on bricks does it? your high dollar bullshit neighbors might be calling the law on ya & cause granny's hanging out her old bras & fancy old people underwears

america these days is for the fragile
fact

I think you are exaggerating a LOT (and what in the fuck do you mean by "girlie"?). Most of America isn't subjected to most of that. It's just that we hear about these things because they piss some people off (or, really it's the whiners who instigate such rules that piss people off). Although I do think it's totally reasonable to have some limits. It's not cool at all to make all your neighbors look at rusted out cars on cinder blocks. I think it's good to try and keep neighborhoods looking nice, to a point. And then there are fucking strata rules, like you're only allowed to have a certain colour of blinds in the window, or aren't allowed to have a door knocker. :roll:

chadwick

im not exaggerating a lot at all.

i myself chadwick may not install a clothesline where i live. i live in a little ass farm town

i know of places elsewhere in the u.s. where no more than 2 cars may be parked in your driveway with no cars parked on the street in front of the home. no basketball hoop mounted to garage & no above ground pool out back. no boat in driveway. no camper/rv parked in driveway.no window mounted air conditioners. the list is large, the list is bulky & plastic

if i want an old ass car resting on blocks in my yard that is my choice. i don't but if i have that it is fine & not my problem or anyones. it is my shitty car in and on my shitty ass lawn or well kept lawn which in some places must be a exact species of grass and no other.

shetellsherself

Wow I had no idea that clotheslines were so controversial. I assume that my neighbors are unique in not being bothered by the dozens of cloth diapers that used to hang drying peacefully in the sun when my babes were little. I do remember when we were looking at homes (before kids) and considering condos and noticing that some of the communities had rules against clotheslines and thinking that was a good reason to look for a single family house. So I guess it did factor into my decision a bit and I was free to make that choice knowing the options.

chadwick

many americans are fake & don't know shit about having shit hard

many americans may need a wake up call into what is real & what is not

if you're bent outta shape about another's laundry drying you're out of order as a human being & deserve to be cut

Jeanwah

PJ_Soul wrote:

oceaninmyeyes wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

: You think that people in the 3rd world would turn down a washer/dryer if they were offered it???? Um, no.

Do you think our climate can take the rest of the world living up to our "ideals" and using 10% more energy than they do in the process?

No. I'm not saying they SHOULD be offered washer/dryers. I'm just saying that this 3rd world vs 1st world aesthetic idea that Jeanwah mentioned doesn't hold up. I absolutely don't expect the rest of the world to "strive" towards our "ideals". On the contrary. But very poor people aren't hanging laundry because they love the appearance of old clothes hanging all over the place. That is the point I'm making.

What I meant was that we are wrapped up in how everything looks, our image and status symbols over being energy conscious. 3rd world countries are just getting by. Nothing is aesthetic. :?:

whgarrett

Get off your high horse Jeanwah

Maybe you should dry some of your underwear with a fabric softener dryer sheet, cause you seem a little uptight.

chadwick

dial up on youtube
'penn & teller: bullshit! - lawns'
it fits right here in this thread

good stuff

hedonist

Oh man, I love that Bullshit series. I'm a fan of both those guys anyway.

It's definitely a bitch sometimes to own property and still have to follow certain guidelines, whether via an association or just city ordinances (both can be changed in some cases too). But, I knew what I was signing away in exchange for our home.

I get the aesthetics side of it as well (not to mention the nod to the damned image trend that skews so much) as I do the less-energy-used one.

Reason fits somewhere in there, I believe.

aerial

We have a washer that also dries the clothes. It's supposedly popular in Europe. I hate it because it drys the wrinkles into your clothes. The best thing about having a dryer is you don't have to do a lot of ironing. So most of the time I resort to the no spin cycle and hang my clothes to Drip Dry ( I haven't seen those care instructions on clothing in a long time) in the wind. I do love a dryer but I also love the smell of freshly washed sheet that have been hung on the line outside to dry....
Offended by laundry?.... :roll:

brianlux

My grandmother hung her clothes on a line in the dead of winter in Lancaster County, PA. She said it freeze dried her clothes. I saw her do it one time. Pants on the line looked like boards. Very cool- I thought it looked like art.

Growing up, all we had was a clothes lines outside, clothes racks in. My father build a board walk over the clay soil in the yard with two wooden t-beams and clothes lines. That's where my mother was the first time she heard me say the word "fuck". The clothes pins were cool.

A lot of cool shit happens around clothes lines.

riotgrl

Never thought a thread about clotheslines would get contentious

However, I will say I live in one of those neighborhoods with a HOA and we have by-laws that prohibit clotheslines. However, I decided about 2 years ago that I wanted one anyway and I put it in my backyard as close to the house as I could get it so very few of my neighbors would be able to see it. The VP of the HOA was not happy about this - luckily I'm married to him so I told him that if he would like a happy home life the clothesline stays True story.

even flow - question mark

PJ_Soul wrote:

It can be an eyesore. I wouldn't be happy if my neighbors were stringing up their laundry. It gives a feeling of being in a slum a littl bit IMO. But people generally need to calm the fuck down and be more tolerant of other people's behaviour. Sometimes things just aren't going to please everyone - that's life.

That said, I'm in support of bylaws banning the hanging of laundry outside where it can be seen by others.

I'd rather see laundry then people picking their noses or hocking loogies on the street. Living in Vancouver (?), you know exactly what I mean.

stardust1976

PJ_Soul wrote:

It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I think it's an eyesore. Just as bad as junked cars in the front yard. Graffiti, on the other hand, is not an eyesore to me, yet the city keeps painting over it. It's just a matter of opinion.
And there are other ways to hang dry clothes than to string it up for all to see. I hang or flat dry probably 70% of the clothes that I wear, but I do so inside on racks made for this purpose. Got them at Ikea for $10 each. My neighbors don't have to look at that mess. Lucky them.

Are you being serious? You honestly are comparing junked out cars to people's clean sheets and clothes on a line?
I'm sorry, but this is one of the most ridiculous examples of arrogance I have come across.

How is a prime example of someone saving energy and money so ugly to you? Do you not care about the planet at all? Did you even bother to read/understand the hypocrisy that the United States are displaying? That if other nations across the globe followed the example shown by the US that the world would be in a heap of shit?

This seems to be another of the 'do as I say, but not as I do' type of things that many nations, not the least being the US, are so so good at.

Drying clothes on a line outside (as opposed to inside a stuffy apartment or house), is not only completely free it is also completely energy efficient. It takes no electricity or gas and your clothes smell fantastic. I simply do not understand the mentality of thinking rusted rubbish and scrawled profanity on walls is more attractive than some person's clean clothes.

There is also the idea that you are presuming that people have both the money in the bank to waste on energy that is free from the wind and sun, AND that people have room in their houses to dry laundry on racks for a full house load of people. That may be all well and good if you are a single person on a good income, but for a normal family how is that practical, affordable or even possible? That's in part where your arrogance comes in. To assume that because you bought cheap racks at Ikea and therefore are not subjecting your neighbours to your 'mess', you are setting a better example is highly ridiculous.

What kind of legacy are you leaving for the next generation if you believe that clean clothes being seen in the open are more of a mess than actual rubbish or some scrawl put on a wall illegally, AND you believe that utilising the free energy that our planet offers us, and that has been acceptable for all bar the last 50 years maybe, is not an option you support?

When India and China decide that having electronic equipment in every house is a must just like the wonderful US has shown them, the world is fucked, to put it nicely.

Now don't get me wrong - I love my dryer. But I cannot justify using it when it's warm and sunny outside and my clothes will dry in a couple of hours naturally. So my dryer is used sparingly here. If you live in a wet cold climate, I get it. When it's sunny and warmer, or even overcast and windy, clothes dry quicker on a line. Drying clothes inside on a rack is a last resort - they end up stiff and smelly because they aren't aired out properly.

I truly cannot fathom a society where a clothes line gets you into trouble - it seems beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry for the rant on the subject but I am just so baffled by the attitude, it's messing with my mind.

oceaninmyeyes

riotgrl wrote:

Never thought a thread about clotheslines would get contentious

However, I will say I live in one of those neighborhoods with a HOA and we have by-laws that prohibit clotheslines. However, I decided about 2 years ago that I wanted one anyway and I put it in my backyard as close to the house as I could get it so very few of my neighbors would be able to see it. The VP of the HOA was not happy about this - luckily I'm married to him so I told him that if he would like a happy home life the clothesline stays True story.

I love this story. Riotgrl you are quite the rebel. :thumbup:

MotoDC

chadwick wrote:

some places won't allow you to have a pool in your backyard unless underground. all above ground pools will be lit of fire immediately

Yeah, but, c'mon. Above ground pools? As bad as that old ford on cinderblocks with 2 feet of grass growing around the blocks...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

The asshole that killed for his distraught over clothes hanging in his neighbour's backyard: I'm wondering how 'squeaky clean' he was? People are so gawdamn narcissistic they cannot see past their noses.

For example, I wonder if this guy casually tossed his cigarrettes out the window of his car when he was finished with his smoke as he drove? Now... in my mind... this is an offence. These clowns: I want to follow them home and slap them. With butts too gross to pile in their ashtray and dispose of without littering the roads and sidewalks of our communities, these people essentially shit all over their neighbours and communities when they throw them on the ground.

If I was a cop, I would pursue these people and they would pay hefty fines for their disrespect and general offensiveness. If I was an NRA member... I'd chase them with my pick up truck, firing shots in the air, and yelling "Yee haw!" while doing so.

Owners leaving their dog shit for everyone to admire are another example of a person that needs a slap. It might be one day soon where I simply grab the turd and rub it into somebody's face: "Hey asshole. You forgot this. Take it with you! We don't want it. We don't love your mutt as much as you do!"

Laundry hanging in a backyard? If you don't like looking at it... turn your head 30 degrees away from it until the sight of it is not in your line of vision- problem solved. Geezuz. Wtf?