I may have defended that bylaw indirectly, but I also said that I would never act to show my support for it either. Yes, I see it as an eyesore. But there are a lot of things I see as an eyesore. It doesn't mean that I think it is an infringement, nor that I think it's my business.
I may have defended that bylaw indirectly, but I also said that I would never act to show my support for it either. Yes, I see it as an eyesore. But there are a lot of things I see as an eyesore. It doesn't mean that I think it is an infringement, nor that I think it's my business.
ok, differing opinions on wording I guess? to me "supporting" is the same, if not more than, defending.
Fair enough... i'm thinking it doesn't matter either way - I think I've had a very moderate stance on the matter, but received an extreme response from some. This thread really has given me the feeling that some people are simply here to pick a fight rather than discuss anything.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
ok, differing opinions on wording I guess? to me "supporting" is the same, if not more than, defending.
Fair enough... i'm thinking it doesn't matter either way - I think I've had a very moderate stance on the matter, but received an extreme response from some. This thread really has given me the feeling that some people are simply here to pick a fight rather than discuss anything.
that's not the feeling I get, but I know what that feels like. I think people just get a bit riled up when they feel that their lives and how they choose to live on their own property are no longer in their own control, that's all. you can start to think "what the hell are they going to tell me I can't do next?". Here in Winnipeg, I saw a headline that says people are going to start getting fined if they don't mow their lawn enough. What if it's an elderly person that has trouble? what if someone broke their leg and can't do it for 6 weeks? is this going to be taken into account? or will you get a ticket no matter what for your grass being too long and then have to spend time and money fighting the ridiculousness of it all? I mean, I hate it when my neighbour's lawn is super long and full of weeds, but it's HIS PROPERTY. I don't feel it's my right to tell him he has to mow it.
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In my city, code enforcement will ticket you - regardless of circumstance - for non-working cars parked on the street in front of your home, vehicles of any kind in the yard (front or back), grass over 6" tall, trash cans left out overnight, more than 5 cats/dogs, fences/gates in disrepair and many personal freedom infringements. But there's no code on clothes lines! My neighborhood is older, so we don't have an HOA. But just try to keep a trashcan out overnight and our neighborhood watch will report you quick!
The principle behind these kinds of bylaws is not one of control, but rather an attempt to protect people from those people that will just let their property go to absolute shit and lower everyone's property values. I wonder if anyone considers what might happen if those rules weren't in place? The alternative may be worse.
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junk piled up to the ceiling of the yard aint cuttin it, sport! but thank you kindly for having & operating your clothesline. try getting your nasty ass cars running or sell 'em as scrap metal. either way this lot will be cleaned up in short order. i'll even have my ppl help if you are old, stupid, drunk, handicapped or got HIV
Wow!!! I don't know if I am dumber, or more educated for having f
Read this thread. What I DO know is that I am down for the clothesline!!
Nothing beats the fresh air smell and longevity of line dried clothes! Plus,
It just saves so much money! I will always line dry my clothes, skivvies and all!
Fuck those that complain! They [complainers] neither buy my clothes
nor pay my bills! Let em' fly I say! You don't like seeing my
granny panties flapping in the wind, get a life and go do something!
The day YOU ( complainers) start paying my energy bill is the day
you may tell me how to dry my clothes!
Wow!!! I don't know if I am dumber, or more educated for having f
Read this thread. What I DO know is that I am down for the clothesline!!
Nothing beats the fresh air smell and longevity of line dried clothes! Plus,
It just saves so much money! I will always line dry my clothes, skivvies and all!
Fuck those that complain! They [complainers] neither buy my clothes
nor pay my bills! Let em' fly I say! You don't like seeing my
granny panties flapping in the wind, get a life and go do something!
The day YOU ( complainers) start paying my energy bill is the day
you may tell me how to dry my clothes!
Why do so many of you equate my simply disliking the appearance of laundry hanging around with not having a life? Do you really, or are you just being a-holes?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Wow!!! I don't know if I am dumber, or more educated for having f
Read this thread. What I DO know is that I am down for the clothesline!!
Nothing beats the fresh air smell and longevity of line dried clothes! Plus,
It just saves so much money! I will always line dry my clothes, skivvies and all!
Fuck those that complain! They [complainers] neither buy my clothes
nor pay my bills! Let em' fly I say! You don't like seeing my
granny panties flapping in the wind, get a life and go do something!
The day YOU ( complainers) start paying my energy bill is the day
you may tell me how to dry my clothes!
Why do so many of you equate my simply disliking the appearance of laundry hanging around with not having a life? Do you really, or are you just being a-holes?
Who's trying to pick a fight?
Pretty sure the 'get a life' comment comes from the fact that the argument is entirely petty to begin with. Defend or support and you want to argue semantics.
I find your homes, streets, cars, telephone poles etc. to be an eyesore. I truly enjoy nature and find all the mass of stuff that men have built to be eyesores. So if I throw my cig butt in the street, fuck you. If I'm hiking in some pristine wilderness then it goes in my pocket until I find another pile of litter(ie. streets and buildings) to throw it in.
And for the record I'm always an asshole.
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So if I throw my cig butt in the street, fuck you.
Hilarious! Fuck you is what I say to people I see tossing their butts in the street.
"I think it's already an eyesore, so I'll just contribute to it, even though I curse eyesores!"
That makes no sense.
Of course it doesn't make sense to you. How could it when you obviously don't agree with me?
Please don't take the "of course" and "obviously" route. There are many people I disagree with but still understand their rationale...even respect it.
This one, nope.
How is it OK to willfully contribute to something you don't like? You really don't think it's a shitty sloppy thing to just toss a cigarette butt (or any other trash) onto the street?
This thread has gone n a weird direction. From what I can tell, many if you have the idea that or society should pretty much be an absolute free-for-all. As long as no one is being literally hurt, fuck all y'all, I'll do whatever the fuck I want... for you apparent extremist libertarians - with that attitude, it would be chaos.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Wow!!! I don't know if I am dumber, or more educated for having f
Read this thread. What I DO know is that I am down for the clothesline!!
Nothing beats the fresh air smell and longevity of line dried clothes! Plus,
It just saves so much money! I will always line dry my clothes, skivvies and all!
Fuck those that complain! They [complainers] neither buy my clothes
nor pay my bills! Let em' fly I say! You don't like seeing my
granny panties flapping in the wind, get a life and go do something!
The day YOU ( complainers) start paying my energy bill is the day
you may tell me how to dry my clothes!
Why do so many of you equate my simply disliking the appearance of laundry hanging around with not having a life? Do you really, or are you just being a-holes?
Who's trying to pick a fight?
Pretty sure the 'get a life' comment comes from the fact that the argument is entirely petty to begin with. Defend or support and you want to argue semantics.
I find your homes, streets, cars, telephone poles etc. to be an eyesore. I truly enjoy nature and find all the mass of stuff that men have built to be eyesores. So if I throw my cig butt in the street, fuck you. If I'm hiking in some pristine wilderness then it goes in my pocket until I find another pile of litter(ie. streets and buildings) to throw it in.
And for the record I'm always an asshole.
No, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I was honestly asking. Thanks for answering. :P I'm not arguing semantics either, so not not sure what you mean by that.
I enjoy nature too, but I also enjoy many things that are man-made. It doesn't have to beone or the other.
It really? You have no qualms about littering as long as it's not out in nature???
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
the cigarette butt thing is an epidemic in cold climates. they don't get washed away by rain/wind/etc for 8 months. they sit in the snow and then the snow melts and the city is a disgusting mushy cig butt wasteland.
it's fucking gross.
however, I was once guilty of this as I was once a smoker who would think nothing of tossing my butt when it was finished. but you can now buy mini-butt-out things that you can keep in your pocket that work well. I've seen them at my local video store at the till with all the other shit that people don't buy.
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yours is worse
this is not defending the bylaw indirectly:
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My elderly neighbors use their clothesline and my fence ~
"Forgive every being,
the bad feelings
it's just me"
financial reports, but mostly the gossip! :twisted:
Hanging all that up to dry...
Hoping to be in an old fashioned neighborhood or on a country road
some acres from a neighbor...
big sky to die by
ok, differing opinions on wording I guess? to me "supporting" is the same, if not more than, defending.
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I have zero problem with that shirt hanging there... but does the backyard require an effort?
"Forgive every being,
the bad feelings
it's just me"
that's not the feeling I get, but I know what that feels like. I think people just get a bit riled up when they feel that their lives and how they choose to live on their own property are no longer in their own control, that's all. you can start to think "what the hell are they going to tell me I can't do next?". Here in Winnipeg, I saw a headline that says people are going to start getting fined if they don't mow their lawn enough. What if it's an elderly person that has trouble? what if someone broke their leg and can't do it for 6 weeks? is this going to be taken into account? or will you get a ticket no matter what for your grass being too long and then have to spend time and money fighting the ridiculousness of it all? I mean, I hate it when my neighbour's lawn is super long and full of weeds, but it's HIS PROPERTY. I don't feel it's my right to tell him he has to mow it.
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How I choose to feel is how I am.
There's just one word I still believe...and it's LOVE.
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I am tired; my heart is
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keep using the fucking clothesline
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
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Once you get used to the clothesline and let your guard down, the next thing you know, here comes the wheelbarrow and rusty backhoe setting up shop.
... or at least get creative.
Read this thread. What I DO know is that I am down for the clothesline!!
Nothing beats the fresh air smell and longevity of line dried clothes! Plus,
It just saves so much money! I will always line dry my clothes, skivvies and all!
Fuck those that complain! They [complainers] neither buy my clothes
nor pay my bills! Let em' fly I say! You don't like seeing my
granny panties flapping in the wind, get a life and go do something!
The day YOU ( complainers) start paying my energy bill is the day
you may tell me how to dry my clothes!
Pretty sure the 'get a life' comment comes from the fact that the argument is entirely petty to begin with. Defend or support and you want to argue semantics.
I find your homes, streets, cars, telephone poles etc. to be an eyesore. I truly enjoy nature and find all the mass of stuff that men have built to be eyesores. So if I throw my cig butt in the street, fuck you. If I'm hiking in some pristine wilderness then it goes in my pocket until I find another pile of litter(ie. streets and buildings) to throw it in.
And for the record I'm always an asshole.
James Howard Kunstler provides excellent evidence of this every month. Get a load of this eyesore!:
http://www.kunstler.com/eyesore.html
"I think it's already an eyesore, so I'll just contribute to it, even though I curse eyesores!"
That makes no sense.
This one, nope.
How is it OK to willfully contribute to something you don't like? You really don't think it's a shitty sloppy thing to just toss a cigarette butt (or any other trash) onto the street?
That mindset is part of the eyesore.
A mindsore, if you will.
I enjoy nature too, but I also enjoy many things that are man-made. It doesn't have to beone or the other.
It really? You have no qualms about littering as long as it's not out in nature???
it's fucking gross.
however, I was once guilty of this as I was once a smoker who would think nothing of tossing my butt when it was finished. but you can now buy mini-butt-out things that you can keep in your pocket that work well. I've seen them at my local video store at the till with all the other shit that people don't buy.
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the whole "I'm not defending" but "I support" debacle.
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