Whats going wrong with the world? More shootings

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    norm wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Btw, you were back awfully fast from the shooting range. :lol: :P

    well i was alone...it's no fun to go shooting alone so i emptied my clip and left :shifty:

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    norm wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Btw, you were back awfully fast from the shooting range. :lol: :P

    well i was alone...it's no fun to go shooting alone so i emptied my clip and left :shifty:
    :fp: :lol:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited August 2012
    pandora wrote:
    No they are very prepared, trained and anticipating... put a gun on your body in a holster and see....
    you wouldn't have it any other way....
    :? Yeah... makes you feel tough, doesn't it? But you wouldn't know either since you haven't ever held a gun... ;)

    Under my clothes, I'd rather wear lovely lingerie - now THAT, I wouldn't have any other way. Gives me (and hubby) more of a buzz than trying to emulate Dirty Harry.
    pandora wrote:
    Its obvious the research has not been done on those who carry.
    And generalizations and assumptions are overcoming any knowledge on the subject.

    Research? Anyone legally owning a gun can carry. Some states don't even require permits. Some states require some training (less than a day) and some states don't even require that (I even think Georgia is one of them). So...... what were you saying about being prepared?
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    comebackgirl wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    This is really scary. How can it be this easy?

    But the gun laws are more than sufficient, aren't they? It's more than scary. It has to be stopped/controlled.
    Clearly they are sufficient. They just need to be enforced properly. Why don't you and I order a bunch of online guns and start enforcing them? :lol:

    :lol::lol::lol: I guess that could be considered 'protection' in a twisted way! :twisted:
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,072
    The National Rifle Association (NRA) frequently claims that concealed carry permit holders are the most law-abiding citizens in America. While this is likely true in many cases, it has become apparent that the screening process in most states does little or nothing to stop dangerous individuals from obtaining permits to carry concealed handguns.

    In 2009, for example, there were six confirmed mass shootings (defined as three or more deaths) by concealed carry permit holders, including the Fort Hood shooting by Nidal Malik Hasan and the killing of three policemen by Neo-Nazi Richard Poplawski in Pittsburgh.

    Currently 34 states have "Shall-Issue" laws that require law enforcement officials to approve permits for any applicant who passes a basic computerized background check through the FBI's NICS database (which is missing millions of disqualifying records). Individuals with misdemeanor criminal convictions, DUI offenses, past domestic abuse restraining orders, and histories of voluntary commitment to psychiatric instituitions can and do obtain permits legally.  Training requirements—if there are any for permit holders—are no more rigorous than a single day-class in instruction. 

    Despite these problems with the screening process, the NRA is currently pushing to allow the carrying of concealed handguns in public spaces across America—including schools, churches, parks, airports, metro transport, restaurants, and bars.

    The gun lobby has also frequently suggested that carrying a concealed handgun in public is a constitutional "right." However, the Supreme Court was clear on this issue in their decision in the case of District of Columbia v. Heller. "The Second Amendment right is not unlimited," wrote Justice Antonin Scalia. "It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. "
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    ComeToTX wrote:
    In 2009, for example, there were six confirmed mass shootings (defined as three or more deaths) "

    OK.. so I was jesting thinking there would be another mass shooting before the end of this thread but, sadly, it seems I wasn't wrong. Three killed with this last shooting mentioned here - so I guess mass shooting. :(

    How many others have there been but not made any headlines?
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    redrock wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I am more saying you are all assuming he is a great responsible gun owner :lol:
    I am saying his actions prove otherwise..

    Sarcasm.

    Though we never did get a real definition of what 'responsible gun owner' was from a pro-gun person on this thread, reading between the lines (yep.. we can do that!), would suggest that all was needed was a legally purchased gun. I would have thought it would be storing it safely as well but examples of 'bravery' and 'responsible' were given where guns were not stored safely - so I am assuming safe gun storage is not a requirement. Nor is it the law? (I'm not sure of that).

    really sarcasm? thanks for telling me cause I just never know...

    I think law abiding responsible legal gun owner is explanatory but here goes

    law abiding
    adhering more or less strictly to the laws

    responsible
    Able to make moral or rational decisions on one's own and therefore answerable for one's behavior.
    Able to be trusted or depended upon; reliable.
    Based on or characterized by good judgment or sound thinking

    legal
    permitted by law; lawful: Such acts are not legal.
    of or pertaining to law; connected with the law or its administration: the legal profession.
    appointed, established, or authorized by law; deriving authority from law.

    as far as gun owners there are many safety courses that can be had too :thumbup:
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Happy Friday all have a lovely safe fun Friday evening...
    I plan to! :D
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    Happy Friday all have a lovely safe fun Friday evening...
    I plan to! :D
    http://youtu.be/0g9uLzraras
    going to the gun range, pand?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Thank you for googling definitions, I know you are good at that - but definitions should really be in context to have any real meaning. I know you are aware of this ;)

    I really like the 'law abiding' one... "adhering more or less strictly to the laws " :lol::lol:
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    redrock wrote:
    Thank you for googling definitions, I know you are good at that - but definitions should really be in context to have any real meaning. I know you are aware of this ;)

    I really like the 'law abiding' one... "adhering more or less strictly to the laws " :lol::lol:
    are you saying someone would copy & paste a complete list of definitions & things all bunk ass and lazy like without using their own words and stuff? does this mean the brain power lacks and that the (possibly) uneducated individual just might be out of their frickin mind, yes/no?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    You are treading dangerous grounds chadwick ;):lol:
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ^^^ pretty much born there & decided to stay :twisted:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    chadwick wrote:
    ^^^ pretty much born there & decided to stay :twisted:

    Good as any other place! :mrgreen:
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/v00WahWyW4k
    everyone needs a ak-47 with silencer
    this dude bought 10 of em for $28,000
    $2,800.00 each
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/ZAHp4YaEyZk
    hell hound & mercury rounds
    everybody needs one of these things
    ever been rabbit hunting & you were a little slow on the go?
    mr. or ms. bunny rabbit won't escape this powerful nonsense
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    NRA theme song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrPpVddlnxM
    Gimli 1993
    Fargo 2003
    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    And...here's your opposite (sorry for the quick ad at the beginning).

    *for the record, I'm not anti-gun, so to speak. But man, this song sure can hit home.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS-vf7bC ... re=related
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Yep. And developing highways that aren't two-way would cost at least double the time and money, and use up more space. It is strange that they make non-emergency cars that can go faster than 100 miles an hour though.


    Fairly confused with this. Highways in the US are divided? :?
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Cigarettes a real danger to the young, not imagined.

    :shock:

    you think cigarettes are a real danger but guns are not? HUH????


    Considerably more dangerous than legally obtained firearms...by a mile actually. So is fast food and sugary drinks too. :lol:
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