ACLU backs Chick-fil-A

SPEEDY MCCREADY · August 2012

Godfather. wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

All the ding-a-lings, at Chicken Heaven today...
Sticking their tongues down their significant others throats....

Will all be starting a ...

"Save the Chickens" fundraiser next week...
Stop the senseless killing of poor innocent chickens!!!!!!
Chickens are our Friends!!!
Freedom to the Chickens!!!!!!

damn chicken chockers !
killer post man ! I can't stop laughing

Godfather.

Adopt a Chicken!!!!!!

Godfather. · August 2012

OHHH SHIT

SPEEDY MCCREADY · August 2012

So this video just came in...

The Chic-Fil-A in Jersey, at 8am this morning....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4V3jM7x3bk

cp3iverson · August 2012

whats funny is that of all of the fast food places in America, Chick-Fil-A is by far the friendliest and most respectful in regards to customer service.

If people are just "so upset" with them having a nativity scene on the counter during Christmas or someone answering a gay marriage question then just don't go there. But don't try to harm their business just because their views differ from yours. That's why i'm so glad Chick-Fil-A is cashing in from this nonsense.

cincybearcat · August 2012

The Chick-Fil-A out by me in Iowa was slammed yesterday. I didn't track specifically how long, but someone I know was in line. And my family got Panera and finished from the time she was in the back of the line to the time she was about 10 people away from the registers. :shock:

RW81233 · August 2012

For me it's not that their company holds a religious view it's that they take people's money to perform the tyranny of religion by donating it to lobbyists and special interest groups designed to take rights and freedoms away from others. Dude is free to believe what he wants but he's using his power to deny others their rights and that's fucked up, and very Un-American.

polaris_x · August 2012

cp3iverson wrote:

whats funny is that of all of the fast food places in America, Chick-Fil-A is by far the friendliest and most respectful in regards to customer service.

If people are just "so upset" with them having a nativity scene on the counter during Christmas or someone answering a gay marriage question then just don't go there. But don't try to harm their business just because their views differ from yours. That's why i'm so glad Chick-Fil-A is cashing in from this nonsense.

uhhh ... if the owner doesn't believe in same sex marriage - maybe he should just not go to one or have any gay married friends ... why does he want to go and harm other people's ability to get married? ... he is prepared to spend money to prevent other people from marrying ... so, that's ok?

SPEEDY MCCREADY · August 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdFIXsrjkXI

gimmesometruth27 · August 2012

Godfather. wrote:

dude are you fucking serious with all that crap ? all this started because the guy from chic fil a said "guilty as charged" about his beliefs..he dident start a media campain on the subject, I think he was aked and he answered right ? then some lbgt got all but hurt and started a bitch fest and now every little thiong that is said is now bigotry or in your words racism ? give me a fuckin break man.

Godfather.

yes i am dead serious.

it is ok with you that a company gives money to organizations that work against gay marriage? i don't care if they believe in god or whatever, but the minute they are actively working to keep a group of people from enjoing the same rights that you and i have, that is discriminatory. with attitudes like the one you are conveying there would still be no african americans voting in the south.

if you think it is ok to deprive rights to an entire population because you think their right to marry is "yucky" then it is you who has the problem.

you and i have a decent rapport, but if i were gay i would be outraged at how easily you dismiss my rights and my desire to have the same rights you have.

cincybearcat · August 2012

polaris_x wrote:

... he is prepared to spend money to prevent other people from marrying ... so, that's ok?

No, it's not. But this isn't a black and white world and individually we sometimes compromise our beliefs. Kinda like voting for that guy that believes its ok to kill babies. I did that last time.

Again, the major problem I have with all of this is instead of having an open dialogue about this stuff we always resort to overwhelming support (i.e. Aug 1st) or complete and utter opposition (boycott, etc.)

I say a few people I know in that Chick-fil-a line and they are all very good people, some of the best I know. It's the religion and history that has made them so against Gay Marriage. If we can openly talk about it, I think it starts to whittle away. Hell, when I was in High School I remember not really understanding it and wondering how it could be natural if it couldn't sustain itself (ie can't have kids).

unsung · August 2012

This is really such a stupid issue. We are $16T in debt, who cares about people stuffing their faces with genetically modified chicken?

inlet13 · August 2012

polaris_x wrote:

cp3iverson wrote:

whats funny is that of all of the fast food places in America, Chick-Fil-A is by far the friendliest and most respectful in regards to customer service.

If people are just "so upset" with them having a nativity scene on the counter during Christmas or someone answering a gay marriage question then just don't go there. But don't try to harm their business just because their views differ from yours. That's why i'm so glad Chick-Fil-A is cashing in from this nonsense.

uhhh ... if the owner doesn't believe in same sex marriage - maybe he should just not go to one or have any gay married friends ... why does he want to go and harm other people's ability to get married? ... he is prepared to spend money to prevent other people from marrying ... so, that's ok?

I don't understand why government is involved in marriage at all. Government shouldn't be telling us what's right and what's wrong.... period. I mean they are government, after all.

That said, I don't understand what the ruckus is here. Under our constitution, this owner is entitled to an opinion on the subject, just like we are. Further, he's also entitled to speak out on his opinion, and if it's true he somehow donated to organizations that back laws regarding his opinion - he's entitled to do that. It's his money. It seems some just don't like his opinion on the subject.

Basically, I'm questioning the following:

1) Is he not allowed to have an opinion?
2) Is he not allowed to speak his opinion on the issue?
3) Is he not allowed to use his money as he pleases?

I believe he has a right to do all of the above. That said, I believe gay-rights advocates also have a right to:

1) Have an opinion
2) Speak their opinion
3) Use their money as they please

... Hence, why I don't understand the "severity" of this issue. It's equivalent to someone being upset about someone else's opinion on gay rights here on MT. This is one guy... the gay rights population has to come to terms with the fact that not every single person agrees with them, nor will they. No matter how strong they believe their case is, they can't force others to agree.

inmytree · August 2012

unsung wrote:

This is really such a stupid issue. We are $16T in debt, who cares about people stuffing their faces with genetically modified chicken?

don't forget the soggy bun and gooey pickles....

nothing says Jesus like a deepfried piece of chicken on a soggy bun...

cincybearcat · August 2012

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

with attitudes like the one you are conveying there would still be no african americans voting in the south.

But there are different ways to attack different issues. In the south, more drastic measures were needed as the rights that were being denied were far more important, imo.

Now, while it is still certainly an important issue, I think we are beyond the sit-in stage. It's time for continuous open dialogue. Because if you do, people will eventually see how silly they sound and start to wonder why they feel this way. it's only a matter of time.

inmytree · August 2012

inlet13 wrote:

I don't understand why government is involved in marriage at all. Government shouldn't be telling us what's right and what's wrong.... period. I mean they are government, after all.

That said, I don't understand what the ruckus is here. Under our constitution, this owner is entitled to an opinion on the subject, just like we are. Further, he's also entitled to speak out on his opinion, and if it's true he somehow donated to organizations that back laws regarding his opinion - he's entitled to do that. It's his money. It seems some just don't like his opinion on the subject.

Basically, I'm questioning the following:

1) Is he not allowed to have an opinion?
2) Is he not allowed to speak his opinion on the issue?
3) Is he not allowed to use his money as he pleases?

I believe he has a right to do all of the above. That said, I believe gay-rights advocates also have a right to:

1) Have an opinion
2) Speak their opinion
3) Use their money as they please

... Hence, why I don't understand the "severity" of this issue. It's equivalent to someone being upset about someone else's opinion on gay rights here on MT. This is one guy... the gay rights population has to come to terms with the fact that not every single person agrees with them, nor will they. No matter how strong they believe their case is, they can't force others to agree.

well said...

however, I do find it funny that folks waited for hours for a mediocre sandwich...

polaris_x · August 2012

cincybearcat wrote:

No, it's not. But this isn't a black and white world and individually we sometimes compromise our beliefs. Kinda like voting for that guy that believes its ok to kill babies. I did that last time.

Again, the major problem I have with all of this is instead of having an open dialogue about this stuff we always resort to overwhelming support (i.e. Aug 1st) or complete and utter opposition (boycott, etc.)

I say a few people I know in that Chick-fil-a line and they are all very good people, some of the best I know. It's the religion and history that has made them so against Gay Marriage. If we can openly talk about it, I think it starts to whittle away. Hell, when I was in High School I remember not really understanding it and wondering how it could be natural if it couldn't sustain itself (ie can't have kids).

what does you voting for obama have anything to do with this? ... i mean how can you begin to say we should have a frank and open discussion when you just said the president believes its ok to kill babies ... if that isn't antagonistic - what is?

and i'm not really sure where you are going with your 'good people' line ... 50 years ago ... good people didn't allow black people on the bus ... 100 years ago good people had slaves ... this religious intolerance is problematic because it infringes on other peoples human rights ... i'm not sure why that is so hard to get ...

again - if you don't believe gay people should marry ... fine ... i'm ok with that ... but once you start trying to influence gov'ts or anywhere else to take that belief and start oppressing other people - it becomes a problem ...

polaris_x · August 2012

inlet13 wrote:

1) Is he not allowed to have an opinion?
2) Is he not allowed to speak his opinion on the issue?
3) Is he not allowed to use his money as he pleases?

1. YES
2. YES
3. NO - not when that money is used to oppress people

would you be ok with me funding an organization that wants to ban white people from all public places?

Godfather. · August 2012

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

dude are you fucking serious with all that crap ? all this started because the guy from chic fil a said "guilty as charged" about his beliefs..he dident start a media campain on the subject, I think he was aked and he answered right ? then some lbgt got all but hurt and started a bitch fest and now every little thiong that is said is now bigotry or in your words racism ? give me a fuckin break man.

Godfather.

yes i am dead serious.

it is ok with you that a company gives money to organizations that work against gay marriage? i don't care if they believe in god or whatever, but the minute they are actively working to keep a group of people from enjoing the same rights that you and i have, that is discriminatory. with attitudes like the one you are conveying there would still be no african americans voting in the south.

if you think it is ok to deprive rights to an entire population because you think their right to marry is "yucky" then it is you who has the problem.

you and i have a decent rapport, but if i were gay i would be outraged at how easily you dismiss my rights and my desire to have the same rights you have.

I haven't really looked into it but I wonder how gay rights supporters spend their money,I mean on things other than gay rights support, are they all as squeeky clean as you make them out to be ? the poor picked on lgbt group that never hurt anybody ? I highly doubt it.
and why are we even talking about african american discrmination ? believe me I the last guy to care what color you are and just because I find lgbt "ICKY" doen't mean I would treat them differently than anybody else but I would not support their cause either.

Godfather.

inlet13 · August 2012

polaris_x wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

1) Is he not allowed to have an opinion?
2) Is he not allowed to speak his opinion on the issue?
3) Is he not allowed to use his money as he pleases?

1. YES
2. YES
3. NO - not when that money is used to oppress people

would you be ok with me funding an organization that wants to ban white people from all public places?

I think you have a right to do what you want with your money. That doesn't mean I agree with what you do with it. But, I shouldn't be able to tell you what to do with your money.

Totalitarianism is not a good thing.

RW81233 · August 2012

inlet13 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

1) Is he not allowed to have an opinion?
2) Is he not allowed to speak his opinion on the issue?
3) Is he not allowed to use his money as he pleases?

1. YES
2. YES
3. NO - not when that money is used to oppress people

would you be ok with me funding an organization that wants to ban white people from all public places?

I think you have a right to do what you want with your money. That doesn't mean I agree with what you do with it. But, I shouldn't be able to tell you what to do with your money.

Totalitarianism is not a good thing.

but isn't he promoting totalitarianism with his money? also wasn't your original argument about not understanding why people are protesting...aren't people exercising their freedoms by protesting his place?

ACLU backs Chick-fil-A

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