ACLU backs Chick-fil-A

comebackgirl

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Well, nine days later ... safe to assume we have collectively moved passed this controversy?

Not sure. My guess is that this is when we see what the longer-term effects are.

While Christian groups are still high-fiving each other over their one-day "eat in" and the resulting press coverage, it's really how the general public goes forward (most of whom thought that lining up and making such a big stink was a bit juvenile and over-the-top).

Coors Beer back in the mid 80s were caught up in a huge controversy about firing a gay CEO and doing it VERY openly for "being homosexual." They too donated millions of dollars to anti-gay groups and political campaigns. Of course back then the internet didn't turn every story into a meme. But a very well-organized boycott of Coors had massive repercussions for more than 20 years and now that it's almost 30 years later, Coors beer is still not able to get into a lot of venues.

Back in the 70s, Anita Bryant had two jobs... she promoted Orange Juice and she lead national campaigns to pass votes to fire any and all "homosexuals" from having jobs in schools. If you saw the movie MILK you know about it. What people don't generally know is that the resulting boycott on Florida Orange juice dropped sales so far that Anita Bryant was not only fired from her job as Orange juice spokeperson, she was blacklisted from Hollywood and just about any job other than singing on the odd TV show. Just her name mentioned today still elicits a very negative reaction. (side note, her ex-husband died last year broke and bitter. While he and his wife had forged an extremely negative campaign to fire gay people, he blamed the loss of his fortune and career and marriage on gay people who "ganged up on us to ruin us... it wasn't fair.")



So NOW we see how the public reacts to ChikFilA. Because while conservatives had their one-day show of "support," the name of the company is now synonymous with a divisive political issue that currently shows a pretty much even split down the middle in public opinion. Which means that just suggesting going to ChikFilA for lunch will result in anything from bruised feelings to an argument. I'm going to say that when the office orders in for Staff Appreciation Day, the employer will want to avoid the negative feelings among the staff and order from KFC to avoid it.

THAT is what happens when a company jumps so strongly into a divisive debate like this. And when there are so many choices for fast food out there, it's best to have the majority of people think of you as a place to get a good lunch, not a place to make a political statement in front of your friends, family and co-workers.

That's a good point about Coors. I remember when I was in college in the mid-90s, a time when most people are willing to drink turpentine if it gets them drunk, people wouldn't drink Coors because of their politically leanings. We'd drink jello shots that wouldn't solidify because of the alcohol content through a communal straw, but no one wanted to drink Coors.

RW81233 wrote:

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Before this whole thing happened people could put aside their political differences with the company and purchase their stuff. Now it comes with a whole host of other meanings. If Chick Fil A maintains this stance as a professor committed to social justice there is no way in hell I can be caught eating their food FOREVER, because a student may see it and ask what the eff I'm doing, or, worse give me a thumbs up because they mistakenly think that I believe in their religion. Like you said no one is going to order that stuff for a lunch meeting anymore, and who outside of a really religious organization would have Chick Fil A cater one of their events/lunches for fear of backlash?

Absolutely. We have "safe zones" on campus and I can't imagine anyone in those offices ordering Chick-fil-a for a staff meeting. In the past there would sometimes be a passing comment by people on campus who were aware of Cathy's ideology, but now people have kind of been hit in the face of it. Cathy's comments have made it so that a chicken sandwich is no longer a chicken sandwich.

Better Dan

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I think anytime you judge someone by their drink it's kinda on you.

That was probably true when the choice between Coke and Pepsi was wether you were a fan of Bill Cobsy or Michael Jackson.

This is the first time I can really think of a product being THIS intrinsically linked with a divisive political issue. So like it or not, walking down the street holding a ChikFilA cup is now a political statement. And for proof of this, I direct you to...


Sarah Palin and the "First Dood."

Michelle Bachman

Mike Huckabee

Senator Lindsay Graham

Rep Jeff Duncan

Random Fatsos
:fp:

(do you remember any other time when politicians flocked to endorse a product like this?)

:fp: I might never eat chick fil ever again...not because of what the president said but because of all the idiots that think it's "cool" to advertise that they are against equal rights by posting a picture of themselves with a stupid bag. :fp:

JonnyPistachio

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

someone recently asked me "what does a vegan eat if they're against gay marriage?"

And I said "Find a vegan against gay marriage. I'll wait."

We're too cool for that shit.

True. I know a ton of vegetarians and a few vegans -- you're spot on here.

brianlux

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I think anytime you judge someone by their drink it's kinda on you.

That was probably true when the choice between Coke and Pepsi was wether you were a fan of Bill Cobsy or Michael Jackson.

This is the first time I can really think of a product being THIS intrinsically linked with a divisive political issue. So like it or not, walking down the street holding a ChikFilA cup is now a political statement. And for proof of this, I direct you to...


Sarah Palin and the "First Dood."

Michelle Bachman

Mike Huckabee

Senator Lindsay Graham

Rep Jeff Duncan

Random Fatsos
:fp:

(do you remember any other time when politicians flocked to endorse a product like this?)

Looks like a page out of "The Official Dip-shit Yearbook".

Prince Of Dorkness

Better Dan wrote:

posting a picture of themselves with a stupid bag. :fp:

You mean Sarah Palin? Yeah, I concur.

Godfather.

brianlux wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I think anytime you judge someone by their drink it's kinda on you.

That was probably true when the choice between Coke and Pepsi was wether you were a fan of Bill Cobsy or Michael Jackson.

This is the first time I can really think of a product being THIS intrinsically linked with a divisive political issue. So like it or not, walking down the street holding a ChikFilA cup is now a political statement. And for proof of this, I direct you to...


Sarah Palin and the "First Dood."

Michelle Bachman

Mike Huckabee

Senator Lindsay Graham

Rep Jeff Duncan

Random Fatsos
:fp:

(do you remember any other time when politicians flocked to endorse a product like this?)

Looks like a page out of "The Official Dip-shit Yearbook".

maaan I can't think of any eattry I would wait longer than 5-10 min. to order a meal.

Godfather.

cincybearcat

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

someone recently asked me "what does a vegan eat if they're against gay marriage?"

And I said "Find a vegan against gay marriage. I'll wait."

We're too cool for that shit.

True. I know a ton of vegetarians and a few vegans -- you're spot on here.

Guess what I know a bunch of people that like chicken, and even like Chick-Fil-A chicken that are for gay marriage.

Life is becoming a soap opera.

JonnyPistachio

cincybearcat wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

someone recently asked me "what does a vegan eat if they're against gay marriage?"

And I said "Find a vegan against gay marriage. I'll wait."

We're too cool for that shit.

True. I know a ton of vegetarians and a few vegans -- you're spot on here.

Guess what I know a bunch of people that like chicken, and even like Chick-Fil-A chicken that are for gay marriage.

Life is becoming a soap opera.

Oh yeah, well I know 7 vegetarians, 3 vegans, and one person who was accused of hate crimes towards water fowl. Beat that chump!
(btw, I like chick-fil-a chicken, but I'd rather not eat there. I once ate like 33 nuggets on a bet...where's the vomit smiley? )

polaris_x

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Michelle Bachman

this doesn't make any sense!? ... didn't she marry a gay guy? :P

cincybearcat

polaris_x wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Michelle Bachman

this doesn't make any sense!? ... didn't she marry a gay guy? :P

And she's bitter about it!!!

ComeToTX

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/ ... inment%7Cs

I'm waiting for Huckabee and Palin to call for "National Shitty Pizza Day."

Godfather.

polaris_x wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Michelle Bachman

this doesn't make any sense!? ... didn't she marry a gay guy? :P

he must be luckiest gay guy on earth

Godfather.

Prince Of Dorkness

ComeToTX wrote:

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120809/BUSINESS/308090078/1042/SCENE/John-Schnatter-Obamacare-pizza?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Entertainment|s

I'm waiting for Huckabee and Palin to call for "National Shitty Pizza Day."

Yeah... so I'm going to have to pay an whopping 11¢ more for a pizza to be delivered by a person who doesn't have a communicable disease that he can't afford to have treated.

And this is from a company that posted $1.4 billion in profits last year and yet that 11¢ extra per pizza will put them out of business? Are we THAT desperate to have the lowest prices that we're just fine with it being made by people who can't even afford basic health care?

MookiesLaw