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edited August 2012 in A Moving Train
Legal eagles cry fowl over politicians' plans to block Chick-fil-A

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07 ... perts-say/
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    people vote with their dollar.

    i have not bought a dominos pizza in 6 years because i do not like the ideology of their executives, just as i will not eat chick fil a because of their ideology.

    they are not going to lose any business because there are going to be enough people who will make up for the money they are not getting from me....

    such as this one and her army of followers....

    palin-chick-fil-a-e1343492393910.jpg


    sometimes i wonder if she actually likes the food and supports that business or if she is just trying to make a statement because she has been marginalized....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    people vote with their dollar.

    i have not bought a dominos pizza in 6 years because i do not like the ideology of their executives, just as i will not eat chick fil a because of their ideology.

    they are not going to lose any business because there are going to be enough people who will make up for the money they are not getting from me....

    such as this one and her army of followers....

    palin-chick-fil-a-e1343492393910.jpg


    sometimes i wonder if she actually likes the food and supports that business or if she is just trying to make a statement because she has been marginalized....

    Exactly, gimme! You don't like it? Don't buy it!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    besides, it is not about money.

    this is not an issue or debate about lost business and lost profits.

    it it were, they would be open on sunday like everyone else....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,181
    how many of these stores are owned by franchisees?
    How many of these franchisees are in lock step with the founder in ideoogy?

    Its those folks that will bear the brunt of this.

    Also, as it relates to this slightly overblown story , can someone show me in the bible where it defines "marriage"? Like New testament definition? Cuz as far as I know a christian should be acting in a christlike manner.I understand his death to be the replacement for the "teachings" in the old testament.
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    gimme can't we make our intentions be known with our dollar and still try to enact litigation that helps provide equal rights to all?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,423
    I totally agree with voting with dollars- yet another reason I rarely eat at most fast food places.

    Chipotle Grill is an exception. They support local and (quite often) organic farming. Oh- and you probably won't so photo ops of Wonder Woman (I wonder what she'll do next for publicity :lol: ) there.
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  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    So gimmie you going to sell your Gibsons ? I know you dont share the same ideology as Henry Juszkiewicz .. Cmon man I sure would like to have a Les Paul.. :P
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    RW81233 wrote:
    gimme can't we make our intentions be known with our dollar and still try to enact litigation that helps provide equal rights to all?
    of course you can.

    as far as i am concerned they can open up wherever they want, and the market will determine their success.

    if you want your chicken served up with a side of hatred be my guest. i will spend my money elsewhere.


    that said, if a business publicly enters the foray and favors the side of discrimination they will do so at their own risk.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    RW81233 wrote:
    gimme can't we make our intentions be known with our dollar and still try to enact litigation that helps provide equal rights to all?

    Homosexuals can still eat at Chick-fil-A, and work there too, as far as I know. If not, they wouldn't be in business. They will lose business from those that actually care. There are no Chick-fil-A's here, but, you can be damn sure I won't ever be purchasing from them.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,181
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    So gimmie you going to sell your Gibsons ? I know you dont share the same ideology as Henry Juszkiewicz .. Cmon man I sure would like to have a Les Paul.. :P
    Gibson has come out with political opinion? Link please?
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    brianlux wrote:
    I totally agree with voting with dollars- yet another reason I rarely eat at most fast food places.

    Chipotle Grill is an exception. They support local and (quite often) organic farming. Oh- and you probably won't so photo ops of Wonder Woman (I wonder what she'll do next for publicity :lol: ) there.

    Chipotle! drooling.gif At least I know that stuff is real!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    So gimmie you going to sell your Gibsons ? I know you dont share the same ideology as Henry Juszkiewicz .. Cmon man I sure would like to have a Les Paul.. :P
    i am not sure what you are asking, because gibson's forestry tradeoffs and the application of the lacey act are completely different from a company taking a stand against the legal union of people based solely on gender.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mickeyrat wrote:
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    So gimmie you going to sell your Gibsons ? I know you dont share the same ideology as Henry Juszkiewicz .. Cmon man I sure would like to have a Les Paul.. :P
    Gibson has come out with political opinion? Link please?
    i am doing this from memory, but a few years ago gibson got in trouble for not processing ebony that they harvested in india. they harvested it and processed it outside of india, which violates the lacey act. as a result, gibson has begun to use a heat treated wood instead of the indian ebony they used to use, which some argue is more energy intensive.

    back in the 90s they started renewing forests and made a line of guitars from those forests called "smartwood" guitars, which i think they stopped making for some reason.

    gibson has not come out publicly on the gay marriage issue to my knowledge.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    So gimmie you going to sell your Gibsons ? I know you dont share the same ideology as Henry Juszkiewicz .. Cmon man I sure would like to have a Les Paul.. :P
    i am not sure what you are asking, because gibson's forestry tradeoffs and the application of the lacey act are completely different from a company taking a stand against the legal union of people based solely on gender.


    :roll: Oh I see... LOL

    Dude the CEO of chic fil-A gave his opinion on gay Marrige in a church of all places. It's not like he decided not to serve or not employ gays or gay couples. Sheez :fp:
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    So gimmie you going to sell your Gibsons ? I know you dont share the same ideology as Henry Juszkiewicz .. Cmon man I sure would like to have a Les Paul.. :P
    i am not sure what you are asking, because gibson's forestry tradeoffs and the application of the lacey act are completely different from a company taking a stand against the legal union of people based solely on gender.
    It's not like he decided not to serve or not employ gays or gay couples. Sheez :fp:

    I think we all understand that. I think...
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    :roll: Oh I see... LOL

    Dude the CEO of chic fil-A gave his opinion on gay Marrige in a church of all places. It's not like he decided not to serve or not employ gays or gay couples. Sheez :fp:
    no, their business has been run the same way for years. their stance, if truely in line with church teaching, is a given. and they have given money to causes that are anti gay marriage. they can vote with their money the same as all the rest of us can...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,423
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    no, their business has been run the same way for years. their stance, if truely in line with church teaching, is a given. and they have given money to causes that are anti gay marriage. they can vote with their money the same as all the rest of us can...

    Good point and, again, I totally agree. I never vote for hate with my money.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i'll give these folks credit ... they believe strongly in something and they are prepared to sacrifice business for it ...

    i am gonna guess they will neither gain any more business nor lose too much business because of this ...
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    So Im just wondering are all of you that plan on not eating at Chic Fil-A going to stop buying gas for your cars ? That is if you drive because afterall those countries like Saudi,Iran,kuwait, iraq that own or belong OPEC dont believe in Gay Marrige either .

    Gays are put to death in those countries.
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Well, I’ve never eaten at a Chick-fil-a outlet but I think I’ll stop by one this weekend for the sheer joy of spending my money at a place under attack by the Gay Bully Boys.

    As a lesbian woman, I support a business’ right to prosper without having to pass the ever-expanding progressive litmus test of pseudo-political righteousness.

    http://lesbianconservative.com

    — Lesbian Conservative


    :clap: :thumbup: :wave:
  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    it's not like chick-fil-a's are being closed down it's just that some places that actually care about human rights don't want their shit peddled in their towns. Seems like a pretty fair use of the political process to me. If they want to hate gay people and/or not hire them that's their thing and if some cities don't want their shit then thats their thing. you can't victimize and play the victim chick-fil-hate.
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    RW81233 wrote:
    it's not like chick-fil-a's are being closed down it's just that some places that actually care about human rights don't want their shit peddled in their towns. Seems like a pretty fair use of the political process to me. If they want to hate gay people and/or not hire them that's their thing and if some cities don't want their shit then thats their thing. you can't victimize and play the victim chick-fil-hate.


    Not yet anyway... Human Rights ? Excuse Me.. What ever happened to the first amendment and Private property rights ? Is chic Fil-a refusing not to hire or serve gay people or Gay couples for that matter ? You guys are such fucking wimps.. You bitch and Moan about us on the right being intolerant yet you are the ones causing a shit storm over this. You want to silence people that have opposing views. Did the CEO come out and say that "HE hated gay people?" No he didn't !!! What Next you gonna acuse them of being afflieated with the KKK ? Get the Fuck over it dude. This is america people have a RIGHT to believe what they want to believe.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    :lol:
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    (disclaimer - I tend to relate most situations to some episode of Seinfeld)

    Anyway, this reminds me of the one where Poppy proclaimed he was pro-life; some folks left his restaurant indignant with his views, and others stayed.

    I have no problem with this stance...but it also gives rise to the question - where does it end? Or begin?

    With an individual? With a corporation? What if a corporation you support hires someone whose beliefs collide with your own?

    Yeah yeah...thinking out loud. Perhaps a bit too out loud. Good fodder for thought though.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    Well, I’ve never eaten at a Chick-fil-a outlet but I think I’ll stop by one this weekend for the sheer joy of spending my money at a place under attack by the Gay Bully Boys.

    As a lesbian woman, I support a business’ right to prosper without having to pass the ever-expanding progressive litmus test of pseudo-political righteousness.

    http://lesbianconservative.com

    — Lesbian Conservative


    :clap: :thumbup: :wave:
    what??? god makes lesbian conservatives??? i thought they were an abomination before god, therefore he/she/it would not make them....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    it is interesting to see you folks on the right praising the aclu for once instead of bashing it as being an organization of pussy liberals...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    RW81233 wrote:
    it's not like chick-fil-a's are being closed down it's just that some places that actually care about human rights don't want their shit peddled in their towns. Seems like a pretty fair use of the political process to me. If they want to hate gay people and/or not hire them that's their thing and if some cities don't want their shit then thats their thing. you can't victimize and play the victim chick-fil-hate.


    Not yet anyway... Human Rights ? Excuse Me.. What ever happened to the first amendment and Private property rights ? Is chic Fil-a refusing not to hire or serve gay people or Gay couples for that matter ? You guys are such fucking wimps.. You bitch and Moan about us on the right being intolerant yet you are the ones causing a shit storm over this. You want to silence people that have opposing views. Did the CEO come out and say that "HE hated gay people?" No he didn't !!! What Next you gonna acuse them of being afflieated with the KKK ? Get the Fuck over it dude. This is america people have a RIGHT to believe what they want to believe.
    i never said that they didn't have the right to hate gays, dislike gays, not hire gays, etc. (that's their first amendment and private property rights)...however the same exact political process allows for towns that hold opposing viewpoints to say get your shit outta here because we don't want your religious bullshit. Don't we also have freedom of religion?
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    pussy liberals...
    Be nice.

    Chick-fil-A knows how to run a business.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,020
    Chick-fil-a will go down in history for its bigotry, as will everyone else who takes public stands against gay rights. They will all eventually be remembered by all of society as rotten, simple minded assholes (I men in a more mainstream way than they already are now). Taking stands against alternative lifestyles in this fashion will be as outrageous as someone making black people ride at the back of the bus this day and age. It's just that civil rights take time. They always do.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    what a crock, just because they believe in tradional marriage they get slammed with all this ?
    a little over kill don't ya think ? elton john and his bf are maybe adopting another child something i am very aginst but it did not stop me from enjoying his music,rob hallford of judas priest comes out of the closset but I didn't stop enjoying his music and I didn't go home and thro out all my priest albums,there was just a gay rights parade in sd I diden't go down town and protest the parade...and btw fuck the aclu them guys are just looking for trouble to stirr up. :fp:

    Godfather.
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