ACLU backs Chick-fil-A

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    polaris_x wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    and btw fuck the aclu them guys are just looking for trouble to stirr up. :fp:

    Godfather.

    uhhhh ... you do know the ACLU supports chick-fil-a on this right!? ...

    :lol: noooo I didn't :lol: if that's the case don't look silly :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    If you are the owner of a company that sells franchises, keep your mouth shut on your public opinions. You think some dude that shelled out several hundred thousand dollars is happy with this publicity?

    Just smile in front of the cameras and maybe mention how you support helping the youth. All people like the youth ... except old man Crenshaw ... he hates those whipper snappers ... they keep riding their bikes through his yard.

    dumb.

    Also .... their chicken sandwiches are way over-hyped.
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  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    RW81233 wrote:
    i never said that they didn't have the right to hate gays, dislike gays, not hire gays, etc. (that's their first amendment and private property rights)...however the same exact political process allows for towns that hold opposing viewpoints to say get your shit outta here because we don't want your religious bullshit. Don't we also have freedom of religion?

    I'm not so sure about that. What you're talking about is a gov't official restricting private business (or attempting to) due to the opinions expressed by an individual strongly affiliated with said business. Gov't directly influencing private matters due to particular speech. How is that not a 1st Amendment violation?

    You also mentioned that Chick-fil-a has the right not to hire gays and I almost posted a link to the EEOC website (I'm going to do it anyway, but with this intro caveat), but it turns out sexual orientation is not one of the protected classes? I'm hardly a gay rights activist, but that surprised me and seems wrong. I thought for sure sexual orientation was explicitly included in the Equal Employment Opportunity Act (which I think is technically just a subset of the 1964 Civil Rights Act). My employer definitely includes sexual orientation as a part of its anti-discrimination policy. Here's the link.

    Also, RW, since you seemed confused in a later post:

    tra·di·tion/trəˈdiSHən/
    Noun:
    The transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way.
    A long-established custom or belief that has been passed on in this way.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    you can legally be fired for being gay in something like 37 states (it's an absurd tradition ;))
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Hahaha, could be. I just find the whole thing really silly. Made me wonder a bit about the intelligence level of the people going batshit crazy on chick-fil-a.

    that's my point ... who's going batshit crazy!? ... no one ... as a full fledged supporter of gay marriage (and it is a human rights issue) - the only troubling thing to me is simply that the political dialogue and policy is being driven by people with money/corporations ... and the continued influence of secular groups in a non-secular state ...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Hahaha, could be. I just find the whole thing really silly. Made me wonder a bit about the intelligence level of the people going batshit crazy on chick-fil-a.

    that's my point ... who's going batshit crazy!? ... no one ... as a full fledged supporter of gay marriage (and it is a human rights issue) - the only troubling thing to me is simply that the political dialogue and policy is being driven by people with money/corporations ... and the continued influence of secular groups in a non-secular state ...


    You don't see facebook much huh? It's ok, normally, neither do i.

    And I disagree, it's be driven by churches. And by public opinion, which has shifted. So, now it's a full on public opinion v. church battle royale. It'll happen, not as fast as it seems like it should. But it'll happen.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You don't see facebook much huh? It's ok, normally, neither do i.

    And I disagree, it's be driven by churches. And by public opinion, which has shifted. So, now it's a full on public opinion v. church battle royale. It'll happen, not as fast as it seems like it should. But it'll happen.

    ya ... not on facebook ...

    i tend to think these things make the news ... trends for a while then disappears like everything else ...
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    RW81233 wrote:
    you can legally be fired for being gay in something like 37 states (it's an absurd tradition ;))
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  • London Bridge
    London Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    Eat Mor Chikin!
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    and cake

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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,068
    just let the history books remember these bigots like they remember bull connor and george wallace.

    but yeah...anyone surprised by his remarks haven't read anything about the company. ever.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    Personally, if a corporation wants to be political or espouse religious beliefs, they can enjoy the benefits and consequences of doing that. It's their right to do it and enjoy any blowback or support. I was happy to see the Muppets/Henson separate from this corporation because the Muppets have always been about inclusiveness for more than 40 years. As always, I support groups with my $. There's lots of other chicken out there, right? mmmm, chicken. :)
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Kat wrote:
    Personally, if a corporation wants to be political or espouse religious beliefs, they can enjoy the benefits and consequences of doing that. It's their right to do it and enjoy any blowback or support. I was happy to see the Muppets/Henson separate from this corporation because the Muppets have always been about inclusiveness for more than 40 years. As always, I support groups with my $. There's lots of other chicken out there, right? mmmm, chicken. :)


    Where exactly did this guy from Chick-fil-a give his opinion again?
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,967
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Kat wrote:
    Personally, if a corporation wants to be political or espouse religious beliefs, they can enjoy the benefits and consequences of doing that. It's their right to do it and enjoy any blowback or support. I was happy to see the Muppets/Henson separate from this corporation because the Muppets have always been about inclusiveness for more than 40 years. As always, I support groups with my $. There's lots of other chicken out there, right? mmmm, chicken. :)


    Where exactly did this guy from Chick-fil-a give his opinion again?

    Evidently it was an interview in the Baptist Press?
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Kat wrote:
    I was happy to see the Muppets/Henson separate from this corporation because the Muppets have always been about inclusiveness for more than 40 years.

    statler and waldorf ... gay couple for sure!
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,068
    Kat wrote:
    Personally, if a corporation wants to be political or espouse religious beliefs, they can enjoy the benefits and consequences of doing that. It's their right to do it and enjoy any blowback or support. I was happy to see the Muppets/Henson separate from this corporation because the Muppets have always been about inclusiveness for more than 40 years. As always, I support groups with my $. There's lots of other chicken out there, right? mmmm, chicken. :)

    The muppets thing was strange to me because they should have known this already. This isn't the first time this subject, or one like it, has come up with chik fil a.
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  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    I haven't eaten fast food since before interracial marriage was fully legalized (well...maybe not that long :oops: ), but it's safe to say I won't be eating there for a variety of reasons
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  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    Kat wrote:
    Personally, if a corporation wants to be political or espouse religious beliefs, they can enjoy the benefits and consequences of doing that. It's their right to do it and enjoy any blowback or support.
    I agree, but a big part of this "blowback" is in elected officials trying to prevent Chick-fil-a doing business in their state/area. When the gov't creates barriers to private activities due to selected speech of related individuals, it becomes a 1st Amendment issue.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    MotoDC wrote:
    Kat wrote:
    Personally, if a corporation wants to be political or espouse religious beliefs, they can enjoy the benefits and consequences of doing that. It's their right to do it and enjoy any blowback or support.
    I agree, but a big part of this "blowback" is in elected officials trying to prevent Chick-fil-a doing business in their state/area. When the gov't creates barriers to private activities due to selected speech of related individuals, it becomes a 1st Amendment issue.

    yuuuuup !!! :lol:

    Godfather.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
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