Penn State Sanctions

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  • London Bridge
    London Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    keeponrockin wrote:
    London Bridge wrote:
    davidtrios wrote:
    can someone say brain-washed assbags?

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/07/23/ ... t-at-ncaa/

    Can some one say....obsessed with this scandal. Thanks for providing all the news :roll:
    Why don't you visit University Park and talk about all the shit you've been saying on this board. Don't forget to take your medical insurance info with you, cause you'll probably be needing it.

    Now move on to something else like gun control.
    Did he touch a nerve? Shouldn't there be attention brought to a man who covered up for a child molester in order to keep the image of an institution strong?

    Yes, calling former players, assbags, does touch a nerve.
  • sweetlew33
    sweetlew33 Sun's Trapdoor Posts: 83
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    Adam Taliaferro‏@Tali43

    NCAA says games didn't exist..I got the metal plate in my neck to prove it did..I almost died playing 4 PSU..punishment or healing?!?
    He played 4 years for an institution and a man who covered up for a child molester.


    He didn't exactly play four years, but he certainly did not stop being part of the program or under Paterno's influence. I know this has nothing to do with this topic, but I think it's worth a read (article came out in Jan)

    http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7492 ... rue-legacy
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    London Bridge wrote:


    Yes, calling former players, assbags, does touch a nerve.
    Why do you have a problem with the sanctions?
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  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    sweetlew33 wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    Adam Taliaferro‏@Tali43

    NCAA says games didn't exist..I got the metal plate in my neck to prove it did..I almost died playing 4 PSU..punishment or healing?!?
    He played 4 years for an institution and a man who covered up for a child molester.


    He didn't exactly play four years, but he certainly did not stop being part of the program or under Paterno's influence. I know this has nothing to do with this topic, but I think it's worth a read (article came out in Jan)

    http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7492 ... rue-legacy
    fwiw ricky reilly basically recanted everything he's ever written about joe pa.
  • London Bridge
    London Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    keeponrockin wrote:
    London Bridge wrote:


    Yes, calling former players, assbags, does touch a nerve.
    Why do you have a problem with the sanctions?

    I have a problem with sanctions when they directly affect players that have nothing to do with the crime.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    so did you post complaints when the U got sanctions, or USC, or all the other colleges that have (student-)athletes get sanctioned for things they had nothing to do with? do you get pissed when a coach like Lane Kiffin or that crappy coach for OSU gets a bunch of kids to sign up to play for them and then leaves? or when a coach like coach cal goes to Kentucky and takes scholarships away from kids who have been going there for 3 years? this is the game with the ncaa (an obviously flawed system that shouldn't exist in a space of higher education in the first place), and you either play by the rules or sometimes get punished for shit you didn't do. further, whereas in the other incidents some kids got paid, or some coach was an ass and took away a scholarship, in this one, kids got raped...and the man, the MYTH joe pa let it go and covered it up. saddy valley can whine all it wants they played the game and lost - literally now actually.
  • London Bridge
    London Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    RW81233 wrote:
    so did you post complaints when the U got sanctions, or USC, or all the other colleges that have (student-)athletes get sanctioned for things they had nothing to do with? do you get pissed when a coach like Lane Kiffin or that crappy coach for OSU gets a bunch of kids to sign up to play for them and then leaves? or when a coach like coach cal goes to Kentucky and takes scholarships away from kids who have been going there for 3 years? this is the game with the ncaa (an obviously flawed system that shouldn't exist in a space of higher education in the first place), and you either play by the rules or sometimes get punished for shit you didn't do. further, whereas in the other incidents some kids got paid, or some coach was an ass and took away a scholarship, in this one, kids got raped...and the man, the MYTH joe pa let it go and covered it up. saddy valley can whine all it wants they played the game and lost - literally now actually.

    I'm not concerned with other college incidents and you need a grammar lesson.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    London Bridge wrote:
    RW81233 wrote:
    so did you post complaints when the U got sanctions, or USC, or all the other colleges that have (student-)athletes get sanctioned for things they had nothing to do with? do you get pissed when a coach like Lane Kiffin or that crappy coach for OSU gets a bunch of kids to sign up to play for them and then leaves? or when a coach like coach cal goes to Kentucky and takes scholarships away from kids who have been going there for 3 years? this is the game with the ncaa (an obviously flawed system that shouldn't exist in a space of higher education in the first place), and you either play by the rules or sometimes get punished for shit you didn't do. further, whereas in the other incidents some kids got paid, or some coach was an ass and took away a scholarship, in this one, kids got raped...and the man, the MYTH joe pa let it go and covered it up. saddy valley can whine all it wants they played the game and lost - literally now actually.

    I'm not concerned with other college incidents and you need a grammar lesson.
    I could have sided with you if your problem was with the NCAA writ large, but if you want to feel bad for Pederast State University then that's your own problem. Kids were raped dude...raped and you feel bad for players and a coach? Do you have children?
  • London Bridge
    London Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    RW81233 wrote:
    London Bridge wrote:
    RW81233 wrote:
    so did you post complaints when the U got sanctions, or USC, or all the other colleges that have (student-)athletes get sanctioned for things they had nothing to do with? do you get pissed when a coach like Lane Kiffin or that crappy coach for OSU gets a bunch of kids to sign up to play for them and then leaves? or when a coach like coach cal goes to Kentucky and takes scholarships away from kids who have been going there for 3 years? this is the game with the ncaa (an obviously flawed system that shouldn't exist in a space of higher education in the first place), and you either play by the rules or sometimes get punished for shit you didn't do. further, whereas in the other incidents some kids got paid, or some coach was an ass and took away a scholarship, in this one, kids got raped...and the man, the MYTH joe pa let it go and covered it up. saddy valley can whine all it wants they played the game and lost - literally now actually.

    I'm not concerned with other college incidents and you need a grammar lesson.
    I could have sided with you if your problem was with the NCAA writ large, but if you want to feel bad for Pederast State University then that's your own problem. Kids were raped dude...raped and you feel bad for players and a coach? Do you have children?

    I said nothing about coaches. Yes I do feel bad for the players.

    ...and yes, I have 2 children with Autism.

    BTW - I do feel bad for the victims. It's one of the worse things that can happen to a child.

    The NCAA could have administered higher fines. I just don't agree with taking away the team's wins for 14 seasons. The justice system will take care of the coaches and others involved.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    But if news came to light that there was a pedophile roaming the showers and facilities, don't you think it would have effected recruiting?
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  • London Bridge
    London Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    keeponrockin wrote:
    But if news came to light that there was a pedophile roaming the showers and facilities, don't you think it would have effected recruiting?

    If this was dealt with properly, 14 years ago, there may have been a minimal recruiting problem. Obviously that has changed now.
    I would bet the future recruiting issue will be because of sanctions, and not because of the crimes/coverup, as long as all involved are ousted from the university.
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    I like all the sanctions... Fuck Paterno.. his wins being vacated made me the happiest :)

    Rot in hell you dirty son of a bitch!!! I wish you were still alive to see your statue coming down you filthy fuck!!
    try to turn a blind eye to that, Joe!!!
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    London Bridge wrote:
    The NCAA could have administered higher fines. I just don't agree with taking away the team's wins for 14 seasons. The justice system will take care of the coaches and others involved.

    Who cares about fucking wins and losses? Besides the NCAA right?

    I think vacating wins is par for the course when the NCAA doles out punishment. I guess if you think it's a bad punishment under any circumstance then you're free to that opinion, but with the history of the way the NCAA punishes extreme rules violators it's a gimme.

    I heard and interview with a sensible alum today and of course he was bummed about the vacated games, but he also pointed out they can't take away his experiences on the field and the highs and lows. I'll obviously never know what it it's like to play on that level, but very little of what I remember about playing hoops at relatively high level in high school revolves directly around wins or losses.

    Where are the former players that are aiming their anger where it should be, as far as vacating wins goes?
  • pureoc
    pureoc Posts: 2,383
    edited July 2012
    Bravo to the NCAA for getting something right, when they seem to get SOOO much wrong (OSU slap on the wrist, ignoring the pimping of cam newton, Oregon paying private scouts, USC and Reggie Bush, the U, etc..

    As far as PSU fans go, I'm sorry you who had nothing to do with this basically don't get to watch your team for the next 4 years, BUT with that said, the non delusional fans will be upset but they are smart enough to realize that it's JUST A GAME, and that there are things much bigger than sports/football. So while the non delusional fans are punished I think they are smart enough to realize this is part of doing the time for the crime, and they will move on and get over with it. The delusional fans, deserve the punishment of watching their team that they valued more than protecting children, suck for hopefully a long time. I'm glad Jo Pa's wins are vacated and he is just another college coach now and not the all time wins leader. As far as the current players, if they choose to they get to transfer without sitting out so I don't really think they are penalized to much.

    Nice to see their are some non delusional PSU fans who do get it. Bravo to you, it's just sad you are in the minority. Finally the Paterno family needs to shut up and deal with this. Jo Pa told us all he needed to when he said i should have done more.
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  • keeponrockin
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    Joe Pa was in fact a piece of shit, did not deserve those wins.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Everyone who is citing concern for current players - note that the NCAA also required Penn State to honor all scholarships even if the students decide to stay at Penn State and NOT play football.

    And, if they do transfer, the NCAA has indicated that they will work out special deals to allow accepting institutions to go above their scholarship quotas if they are already at them for the year and/or team totals. So, the concern that there aren't scholarships available at this late date is off the table.

    So, I'm still missing how the NCAA's penalties were not perfectly designed.

    Kids can still play football. Kids can still get their free education. They can transfer with special treatment (i.e. play immediately, get a scholarship that would not otherwise be available). How are they being punished? Because they don't get to play at Penn State?

    With regards to bowls - why does Penn State have to play in the bowl? Another school and another group of players will get their spot. So, it's not like NOBODY gets to play in the bowl.

    Sorry, it seems like students and alum who are trying to use the players as cover are being selfish. Think of the bigger picture.


    Kudos to the NCAA.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Sorry, it seems like students and alum who are trying to use the players as cover are being selfish. Think of the bigger picture.

    Yep...They were showing little clips of student reaction on ESPN and it was both painful to watch and the perfect display of why it was a just punishment.

    One of them pointed out that Sandusky was gone after 98... :fp: Sure he was ;) So why was he always on campus and living like a block away? Did they not hear about the coverup?
  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Everyone who is citing concern for current players - note that the NCAA also required Penn State to honor all scholarships even if the students decide to stay at Penn State and NOT play football.

    Uh huh. There are worse fates in life than going to Penn St. for free and having access to awesome facilities for 4 years. Like, you know, being raped as a child.

    No bowl games. Cry me a fucking river.
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  • davidtrios
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    London Bridge wrote:
    Yes, calling former players, assbags, does touch a nerve.

    I'm starting to think the cult-like culture in Creepy valley will never change. It's really good to see the Penn State Letterman support child rape.

    :fp:

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/07/23/ ... t-at-ncaa/
  • London Bridge
    London Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    davidtrios wrote:
    London Bridge wrote:
    Yes, calling former players, assbags, does touch a nerve.

    I'm starting to think the cult-like culture in Creepy valley will never change. It's really good to see the Penn State Letterman support child rape.

    :fp:

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/07/23/ ... t-at-ncaa/

    Did you miss this part of the article?

    "On behalf of the Penn State Football Letterman’s Club, our thoughts and prayers continue for the victims and their families in the heinous criminal acts of Jerry Sandusky. Their lives have been negatively impacted forever and it is important that their stories are not overshadowed by those continuing to define and sensationalize their narrative" :fp:

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