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Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
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60 million dollar fine
4 year bowl ban
Loss of 10 scholarships per year for 4 years
All wins vacated from 1998 to 2011 which removes 112 wins from Paternos record which now places him 12th all time with 298 wins.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess Posts: 7,305
    Will any of that fine go toward helping the victims?
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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    Who Princess wrote:
    Will any of that fine go toward helping the victims?

    The funds will go into an endowment for external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university.
  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    That's a pretty damn good ruling by the NCAA. Bravo.
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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    BinFrog wrote:
    That's a pretty damn good ruling by the NCAA. Bravo.

    I thought they did a great job with this, especially vacating all wins from 1998.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,351
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    That's a pretty damn good ruling by the NCAA. Bravo.

    I thought they did a great job with this, especially vacating all wins from 1998.

    Yeah, that's gonna sting. They loved that Bowden had wins vacated which helped give Paterno the record. (although eventually he had the record anyway, guess not anymore)

    Hopefully the $60M is truly put to good use.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,716
    Welp...looks like my grandfather has officially seen his last meaningful Penn State football game.

    Needless to say I don't agree with the vacated wins, but whatever.
  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Saddy Valley...how do those idiots who rioted this past fall feel now that it's pretty clear Joe Pa was in on the coverup from the beginning?
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    Who Princess wrote:
    Will any of that fine go toward helping the victims?

    The funds will go into an endowment for external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university.
    Sends a very strong message. This is the most important piece in my opinion.

    I also hope to see them step up their sexual violence awareness and bystander intervention programs throughout the school, and I hope every college and university follows that lead.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,147
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    That's a pretty damn good ruling by the NCAA. Bravo.

    I thought they did a great job with this, especially vacating all wins from 1998.

    Too bad he is not alive to see his punishment
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    I dunno. I like them taking away Paterno's wins since 1998 because he deserves any disgrace that the NCAA or anybody else wants to throw at him. But the $60 million dollar fine is stupid. They should donate that money to child-abuse victims or something. As for the four-year bowl ban....I don't think this team is gonna be making any bowls in the coming years anyway.
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I dunno. I like them taking away Paterno's wins since 1998 because he deserves any disgrace that the NCAA or anybody else wants to throw at him. But the $60 million dollar fine is stupid. They should donate that money to child-abuse victims or something. As for the four-year bowl ban....I don't think this team is gonna be making any bowls in the coming years anyway.
    I think the 60M is going into an endowment for abused children (could have read it wrong)
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,351
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I dunno. I like them taking away Paterno's wins since 1998 because he deserves any disgrace that the NCAA or anybody else wants to throw at him. But the $60 million dollar fine is stupid. They should donate that money to child-abuse victims or something. As for the four-year bowl ban....I don't think this team is gonna be making any bowls in the coming years anyway.

    They said they are donating the $60M towards exactly that kind of thing.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I dunno. I like them taking away Paterno's wins since 1998 because he deserves any disgrace that the NCAA or anybody else wants to throw at him. But the $60 million dollar fine is stupid. They should donate that money to child-abuse victims or something. As for the four-year bowl ban....I don't think this team is gonna be making any bowls in the coming years anyway.

    They said they are donating the $60M towards exactly that kind of thing.

    Oh I didn't see that. Well that's good.
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  • AndyVanSlykeAndyVanSlyke Posts: 183
    I think they did a great job with the rulings.

    Although we can't go back in time and change what happened to those kids, I think negating the wins allows us to go back in time and take away the good things that they did not deserve.


    And I'm a Penn State grad.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,147
    AndyVanSlyke wrote:
    I think they did a great job with the rulings.

    Although we can't go back in time and change what happened to those kids, I think negating the wins allows us to go back in time and take away the good things that they did not deserve.


    And I'm a Penn State grad.

    Good for you for not being brainwashed like all the Penn St grads that I know :clap:
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  • London BridgeLondon Bridge Posts: 4,733
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I dunno. I like them taking away Paterno's wins since 1998 because he deserves any disgrace that the NCAA or anybody else wants to throw at him. But the $60 million dollar fine is stupid. They should donate that money to child-abuse victims or something. As for the four-year bowl ban....I don't think this team is gonna be making any bowls in the coming years anyway.

    What would make you think Penn State would not make a bowl game? There are so many of them.
    I blame the NCAA for making college sports(football and basketball) what they are today. More important then education. The big hype. The big bowl game. The additional bowl games. Money Money Money

    Who will oversee the $60 million and ensure it goes to a good cause without some of it ending up in a NCAA executive pocket?
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,355
    I don't get vacating the wins. Again, this situation provided no on field benefit. I say let the wins stand as they are. Hell, Auburn won a national title with a player who;s dad received $. And nothing happens? The NCAA are a bunch of showboating hypocrites. I hate that organization with a passion. They don;t care about competition on the field, they care about $ and looking good. They did this to look good and tough when in reality they have failed to do anything to make sure that the competition on the field has integrity.

    I think the 4 year post-season ban is a pretty good idea. Re-focuses the football program on what really matters and takes away the chance at any significant revenue.

    I think they should have put the football team on a 1 year television ban. And the BIG TEN should announce that Penn State will not receive their portion of the televison rights $ - it will go to charity.

    The scholarship hit doesn't seem bad, but then again, all you are doing is taking $ away from kids that need it to attend school so I don't really care about that.

    It will be interesting to see what the loss in revenue does to the Olympic sports that are funded by the football program.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Strange trivia of the day...taking into account the vacated wins, the last quarterback to win for psu ...

    Mike McQuery
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    norm wrote:
    Strange trivia of the day...taking into account the vacated wins, the last quarterback to win for psu ...

    Mike McQuery

    Tom Bradley's win last year as the interim coach still counts so whoever quarterbacked that game is the answered to your trivia question
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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    We will find out what the Big 10 has in store for PSU press conference with further sanctions expected coming up at 11 today.
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    They are taking away future scholarships correct? No one on the current team is going to lose one? I know they can transfer without penalty.
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  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Strange trivia of the day...taking into account the vacated wins, the last quarterback to win for psu ...

    Mike McQuery

    Tom Bradley's win last year as the interim coach still counts so whoever quarterbacked that game is the answered to your trivia question

    Not sure about that the NCAA stated all wins from 98-11
  • LloydXmasLloydXmas Posts: 7,539
    Big Ten Bans Penn State from Conference championship for 4 years.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Strange trivia of the day...taking into account the vacated wins, the last quarterback to win for psu ...

    Mike McQuery

    Tom Bradley's win last year as the interim coach still counts so whoever quarterbacked that game is the answered to your trivia question

    Not sure about that the NCAA stated all wins from 98-11

    I guess it doesn't really matter either way.
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  • cowboypjfancowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    Taking away the wins and future bowl games/big ten championship only hurts the players. I would've liked to see a fine over $100 million going to child abuse org's and the victims. I just don't see why the players get punished because their leaders/coaches snowballed them.
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,519
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I don't get vacating the wins. Again, this situation provided no on field benefit. I say let the wins stand as they are.

    Yes, it did. You don't think that the program would have been effected if they did the right thing right away? You don't think it's possible 1 recruit didn't go once Sandusky was exposed in 1998? Then, snow ball it from there.

    This is the least important part of the punishment, but bravo to the NCAA on the entire thing (especially where the money is going). Finally did something right.

    The kids (that stay) still get to play this fall. So, I also don't see how they are negatively effected either. Isn't being in school on scholarship and getting to play some games what they are there for in the first place? What? they might lose? That's an issue? I don't see how anyone can have a problem with this.



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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,351
    Big 10 sending PSU's bowl revenue to charities.

    I'd like to know what kind of oversight is going to take place with all this cash going to child abuse charities. I'm glad that's what's happening, just think there needs to be some strict auditing going on.
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  • PJFAN13PJFAN13 Posts: 1,422
    I feel so bad for the victims - Sandusky needs to die - period.
    The "adults" who allowed this to happen as to protect the program should go to prison - can't hold the football program ahead of human decency. The "leaders" covered this up and they need to pay dearly.
    I agree with most all of the this punishment - vacate the wins (direct shot @ Paterno), take the bowl bans for years, the $60 mill to the endowment of victims of sexual abuse is brilliant.
    The loss of scholarships over 4 years down 25 to 15 per year makes this a walking death sentence, plain and simple - no way the football program is relevant EVER again.
    No bowls, no TV, no revenue, 40 less scholarships - Coach Bill O'Brien has no chance. Crippled football program, at least for a decade. How do these current players deal with this?
    Let's not forget the pending civil suits that will take 10's (if not hundreds) of millions from Penn State.
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  • PJFAN13PJFAN13 Posts: 1,422
    The last official win by Penn State would now be late 1997 - starting QB of that squad:
    Mike McQueary (the same coach who watched Sandusky rape a child)
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,182
    Bronx Bombers wrote:
    60 million dollar fine
    4 year bowl ban
    Loss of 10 scholarships per year for 4 years
    All wins vacated from 1998 to 2011 which removes 112 wins from Paternos record which now places him 12th all time with 298 wins.

    Holy crap are you serious, this is what they got handed down to them. WOW! Rightfully so, I mean I'm no Penn State football fan but they apparently were covering up or hiding was hideous. I have to check out the news to get the rest of these sanctions.

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