Penn State Sanctions
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josevolution wrote:About time NCAA stepped up and really took the bull by the horns , even taking away the wins is just ....
All of it taking down the statue was also the correct step they needed to start the clensing process wich will take a very very long time to do ....
Unfortunately, for PSU you reap what you sew. I don't quite understand the taking away of wins but I gather they the NCAA wanted to send a grand message to ALL colleges and universities. That message being it's much better to come out in the beginning and suffer the consequences then than try and cover it up, only to face far more consequences later if such a cover up comes to light.
Which is exactly what has happened here...somebody in the administration needed to the strength to come forward and say we can not do this even if our treasured football program takes a hit. It appears no one did.
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I wonder if PSU drew worse sanctions for ridiculously deciding to play in that stupid bowl game last year. That was such a dumb, tone-deaf decision.Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25
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Johnny Abruzzo wrote:I wonder if PSU drew worse sanctions for ridiculously deciding to play in that stupid bowl game last year. That was such a dumb, tone-deaf decision.
It certainly didn't help that they played that game it means absolutely nothing now in light of what has been handed down to the university. Atleast the NCAA is allowing players to leave the school to play elsewhere without penalty.....it that by design to weaken the PSU football program even more?
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Johnny Abruzzo wrote:I wonder if PSU drew worse sanctions for ridiculously deciding to play in that stupid bowl game last year. That was such a dumb, tone-deaf decision.
I don't think that bowl game had anything to do with today's sanctioning. Why was it dumb of them to play?0 -
Bravo!!! Great punishment!!!
How fitting that McQueary qb'd Paterno's last official win.
I can't blame Paterno's family for being upset. Totally understandable reaction to all of this. They'll probably always hold out hope that new facts will come out and at least make Joe look a little better. Hopefully they'll learn the right place to direct their anger at some point.
Ryan Scott, I think of the Seahawks had the best reaction(on Scot Van Pelt's radio show) of any former PSU-er I've heard. Basically said the punishment fits, but he wished there was a better way to punish w/o hurting the current students and such.
I dunno whether to be angry or feel sorry for all these dumbass sympathizers. I mean, they're adults but so many people viewed Joe Paterno as some sort of deity. For any person of Paterno's stature there's gonna be defenders regardless of how wrong their actions were. Seems like most of them are going out of their way to say the dumbest shit so, so far it's the anger.
What's so hard to understand about vacated wins? The fucking head coach let a serial molester cruise around campus for 12 fucking years while he was breaking records and keeping his job and reputation safe by keepin quiet. I dunno about you, but I'd have some serious reservations about signing a letter of intent or accepting money to play for a school that had a molester on the staff or hanging around. I realize that's all "hindsight is 20/20" but come on....0 -
Honestly, I think the sanctions are misguided. The punishments handed down have almost no direct impact on anyone involved in the scandal/coverup. And it's way too harsh to the kids playing there now. I understand the need to "send a message" but why not say, you can go to bowl games, but all revenue for the next 10 or so bowl games goes to child abuse victims? And every time you are on tv, you have to pay for public service announcements dealing with abuse. I think that would have a more lasting impact than this.
The vacated wins just seems like a public image thing for the NCAA so they don't have Paterno on the top of the wins list.0 -
London Bridge wrote:Johnny Abruzzo wrote:I wonder if PSU drew worse sanctions for ridiculously deciding to play in that stupid bowl game last year. That was such a dumb, tone-deaf decision.
I don't think that bowl game had anything to do with today's sanctioning. Why was it dumb of them to play?
The program was under a huge cloud of scandal at the time (and still is obviously). It was reasonable to play out the regular season with all the tickets having been sold already. But they should've called it quits after the regular season ended and worried about getting their house in order rather than making more money on football. Many people said this at the time. Not sure if I posted about it, but that was my opinion.
Anyways, if they withheld from the bowl game last year perhaps the NCAA would've granted them "time already served" and it would just be a 3-year bowl ban, but PSU showed a lack of understanding the issue by going to that bowl game. It was a lower-tier bowl game anyway - that team wasn't even that good. Not like they were going to the Rose Bowl or something like that.Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25
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sweetlew33 wrote:Honestly, I think the sanctions are misguided. The punishments handed down have almost no direct impact on anyone involved in the scandal/coverup. And it's way too harsh to the kids playing there now. I understand the need to "send a message" but why not say, you can go to bowl games, but all revenue for the next 10 or so bowl games goes to child abuse victims? And every time you are on tv, you have to pay for public service announcements dealing with abuse. I think that would have a more lasting impact than this.
The vacated wins just seems like a public image thing for the NCAA so they don't have Paterno on the top of the wins list.
I like the idea and the thought that the NCAA do not want Paterno on the top of the win list. I can't fathom why else would they want to take away those wins....it's not going to make any difference to the victims.
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I wonder if any of the school officials mentioned in the freeh report are going to face criminal charges in the near future? I haven't seen any articles mentioning that0
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It's going to get real ugly when the trials of Schultz and Curley begin.
Going to be mud flinging between them and the Paterno representation.
This is all just the tip of the ice burg. This Freeh report and the actions of the board of trustees will be picked apart.And so you see, I have come to doubt
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davidtrios wrote:
I think you are missing the point of this statement a bit, unless I am missing something. They don't agree with the punishment, which is fair, and also don't agree with the misrepresentation of the academic performance of players. Maybe adminstrators didn't do things the right way, but the Letterman are speaking for the Letterman who played no role in this scandal.0 -
Two things....
1. I had no idea that Spanier was physically abused as a kid. I somehow missed that in November. So strange.
2. I obviously really dislike the vacated wins part...if for nothing else for statements like this. I get the rest of the punishment and I get this part is meant to be a slap in the face to Paterno but still.
Adam Taliaferro@Tali43
NCAA says games didn't exist..I got the metal plate in my neck to prove it did..I almost died playing 4 PSU..punishment or healing?!?0 -
davidtrios wrote:
Can some one say....obsessed with this scandal. Thanks for providing all the news :roll:
Why don't you visit University Park and talk about all the shit you've been saying on this board. Don't forget to take your medical insurance info with you, cause you'll probably be needing it.
Now move on to something else like gun control.0 -
I'm surprised at what the NCAA handed down. It seems appropriately harsh to me.
In my opinion, the entirety of the sanctions are just (even the vacated wins), and here's why: Football was so important to the institution as a whole that they would not risk what might happen to them if they were to report Sandusky to the authorities as they themselves had at one time planned to do.
Football was more important than doing whatever they could to make sure Sandusky could never do that to another child again.
So, you know what? Fine. The team got to play the games. But now they don't count. Done and done.0 -
Cliffy6745 wrote:davidtrios wrote:
I think you are missing the point of this statement a bit, unless I am missing something. They don't agree with the punishment, which is fair, and also don't agree with the misrepresentation of the academic performance of players. Maybe adminstrators didn't do things the right way, but the Letterman are speaking for the Letterman who played no role in this scandal.Cliffy6745 wrote:I obviously really dislike the vacated wins part...if for nothing else for statements like this. I get the rest of the punishment and I get this part is meant to be a slap in the face to Paterno but still.
Adam Taliaferro@Tali43
NCAA says games didn't exist..I got the metal plate in my neck to prove it did..I almost died playing 4 PSU..punishment or healing?!?
How many of those letterman would've signed on knowing that Paterno was enabling a serial molester? I don't think it has anything to do with sticking it to Paterno.
Who really gives a crap about former players whining about vacated games?0 -
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He played 4 years for an institution and a man who covered up for a child molester.Cliffy6745 wrote:
Adam Taliaferro@Tali43
NCAA says games didn't exist..I got the metal plate in my neck to prove it did..I almost died playing 4 PSU..punishment or healing?!?Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V0 -
Did he touch a nerve? Shouldn't there be attention brought to a man who covered up for a child molester in order to keep the image of an institution strong?London Bridge wrote:davidtrios wrote:
Can some one say....obsessed with this scandal. Thanks for providing all the news :roll:
Why don't you visit University Park and talk about all the shit you've been saying on this board. Don't forget to take your medical insurance info with you, cause you'll probably be needing it.
Now move on to something else like gun control.Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V0
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