PEARL JAM TO PLAY MADE IN AMERICA FESTIVAL

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  • SpinTheBlackO
    SpinTheBlackO Posts: 385
    well this could be very cool. i for one am excited. i'm always open to new music.
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    SolarWorld wrote:
    kenny olav wrote:
    I don't understand why Pearl Jam can't do a short tour or a multi-show stint in one city like Philly '09 instead of these festivals. In the past, they've played festival dates in the midst of a tour, which was great, and I love the festival experience. I go to at least one festival per year, but I understand why some people don't want to go to festivals. I love some rap music, I love a variety of music, but I want to see Pearl Jam with a Pearl Jam crowd. That's been a big part of the experience since my first PJ show in 1998 - everyone around me knowing all the songs and knowing the history of this once great touring band.

    Unlike Lollapalooza '07 or Bonnaroo '08 or Alpine Valley '11, the line-ups for these '12 festivals aren't very good, especially not this Budweiser one. "Budweiser Made in America Festival" - it makes my stomach turn. And btw, Budweiser is made in America, but most of the profits are being made in Europe.

    I'm psyched beyond words to be attending the Newport Folk Festival this year, but to see my once favorite band Pearl Jam at Budweiser Fest with a bunch of pop acts, I'd need an all-expense-paid trip for that, with free all-I-can-drink beer of a much higher quality than Bud. And free bud.

    Either this was the only feasible way for Pearl Jam to play shows in the U.S. (why would that be? I can't think of a reason.) or, as some are saying, Pearl Jam is doing this for a bigger paycheck. I'm sure the 3 festivals are psyched to get Pearl Jam, but a lot of Pearl Jam's long-time fans are pissed off today and I'm one of them. I see that a lot of people here are psyched about this fest, and I'm not here to to piss on anyone's parade. I'm just here to speak my mind about Pearl Jam, because I paid to be able to do that.

    Looks at if from their perspective. No new album to promote, a whole tour wouldn't be as profitable. I bet they get close to what a whole tour pulls with these appearances this year. Makes sense... it will probably pay for the album since everything is in house these days.

    My perspective. Jay-Z is fucking garbage. DRAKE? Whatever. There is no debating this. You all have been bamboozled. He sucks. Drake sucks. And Budweiser is everything wrong with corporations in America. Oh yeah and their product kills people.

    good point about no new album. however, if they are playing at least 3 shows, why not a short tour or multi-show stint in one place? I don't know. I don't want to suspect anything. I just don't get it.
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    kenny olav wrote:
    good point about no new album. however, if they are playing at least 3 shows, why not a short tour or multi-show stint in one place? I don't know. I don't want to suspect anything. I just don't get it.

    They have to take a stage, pay a huge crew on the road. They just have to bring equipment and techs for these shows. Easy phat paydays.
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Malcolm-Edge wrote:
    Also to those bashing Jay-Z live. He is the best rapper alive and he puts on a more rock show. He comes with a full band, and can put on one hell of a show. Pearl Jam and Jay are two of the best concerts Ive ever been too. Do not hate. I wish I could afford to go, and if I could I'd be there in a heartbeat.

    The Roots > Jay Z (exponentially)

    Black Thought > Jay Z (exponentially)

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  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    I'm gonna laugh if Justin Beiber ends up being one of the 'artists' at this festival...isn't he 'thisclose' to Jay Z?
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  • sheri zona
    sheri zona Makai Side Posts: 356
    Last week Jay invited Obama to speak at the festival. The odds of him doing it are a billion to one, but if he does the security getting into the festival is going to be nuts.

    I kind of agree about wanting to see PJ with an entire PJ crowd, there's nothing like it. However, if they are going to do festivals and it's the only chance to see them then hey, it's better than not getting to see them at all. Wish I could make it, I love Philly but I'll be on the side of a mountain on Kawaii somewhere :mrgreen:

    @ justin beiber...I just laughed so hard I snorted haha
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  • KP_McMinn
    KP_McMinn West Philadelphia born and raised Posts: 748
    :P
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Better lineup than PJ20.
  • RYEzupSF
    RYEzupSF Posts: 6,003
    Kat wrote:
    he.who.forgets wrote:
    RYEzupSF wrote:
    I got 99 problems but this festival ain't one.

    Count me in!! Pearl Jam and Jay-Z on the same ticket. I couldn't ask for more. Oh wait, I could. D'Angelo. Done. Hell yeah. 8-)
    wonder if D'angelo will perform naked? ;)

    This artist is no longer part of the lineup. I'm sorry...don't know why. We updated the OP.

    Break my heart, Kat, Break my heart!! ;) ...It's all good. I'm stoked as hell! I'll just dream of D'Angelo... 8-)
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  • jjflash
    jjflash Posts: 5,031
    RKCNDY wrote:
    I think I'm gonna save my money for Bridge school, or a west coast date...Florida would be cool, but, ugghhh...i dunno.

    Same boat :)
  • afroannnie
    afroannnie Posts: 12,995
    RYEzupSF wrote:

    Break my heart, Kat, Break my heart!! ;) ...It's all good. I'm stoked as hell! I'll just dream of D'Angelo... 8-)

    are you still going to deluna?
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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    SolarWorld wrote:
    kenny olav wrote:
    good point about no new album. however, if they are playing at least 3 shows, why not a short tour or multi-show stint in one place? I don't know. I don't want to suspect anything. I just don't get it.

    They have to take a stage, pay a huge crew on the road. They just have to bring equipment and techs for these shows. Easy phat paydays.

    some have made the point that DMB and Phish still tour every year... of course they tour A LOT... PJ, with all their commitments this year with their side projects, I understand cannot tour a lot. and I love the side-projects, generally speaking (except Brad, sorry Stone), and I want them to keep doing that... Eddie puts on a great solo show... Tres Mts was incredible last year... but if think they need to consider the Pearl Jam fans who are no spring chickens anymore. i'm almost 36... i'm entering another marketing demographic... it's crazy. festivals can be a bit much for us older kids ;) is the payday that phat as opposed to doing their own shows (at $80+ per ticket)? i admittedly don't know the business side of it. i'm just dissapointed that there's no way to see Pearl Jam this year that makes sense for me.
  • KP_McMinn
    KP_McMinn West Philadelphia born and raised Posts: 748
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    I just hope it's not like a 90 degree muggy day, because it gets packed in when concerts are on the Parkway:

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    where the hell is parking going to be? That is just about the worst part of Philly to get to.
    The Ben Franklin Parkway! They shut the whole street/bridge down.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,261
    RKCNDY wrote:
    I'm gonna laugh if Justin Beiber ends up being one of the 'artists' at this festival...isn't he 'thisclose' to Jay Z?

    i was thinking of that at work today :lol:

    or whoemever the hottest country artist is right now, Taylor Swift?
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  • iamloco724
    iamloco724 Brooklyn NY Posts: 1,441
    RKCNDY wrote:
    I'm gonna laugh if Justin Beiber ends up being one of the 'artists' at this festival...isn't he 'thisclose' to Jay Z?


    either way wont matter to me im sure something decent will be going on when hes there and theres only 2 days and we know jay is headlining one pearl jam the other so dont matter whats in the middle lol
  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Malcolm-Edge wrote:
    Also to those bashing Jay-Z live. He is the best rapper alive and he puts on a more rock show. He comes with a full band, and can put on one hell of a show. Pearl Jam and Jay are two of the best concerts Ive ever been too. Do not hate. I wish I could afford to go, and if I could I'd be there in a heartbeat.

    The Roots > Jay Z (exponentially)

    Black Thought > Jay Z (exponentially)

    See more hip hop shows.

    while my preference here would be the roots and black thought, it's only a matter of opinion. a lot of hip hop heads would actually disagree with you here. and the roots are going to play the fest as well, so it's really an irrelevant point.
  • 63schoefflin
    63schoefflin Posts: 2,581
    Actually you may have a point with the better lineup than PJ20. I mean the Strokes are one of my faves so besides them I could do without the other bands. But I still made the trip out because I was not going to miss them. It's nice because most of the bands aren't even announce yet.

    And I heard Eddie is doing a duet with Beibs for the Xmas Single
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  • Cropsmoker
    Cropsmoker Posts: 209
    I'm easily one of the most hip hop savvy Pearl Jam fans there are and Jay Z IS NOT, nor is even close to being the best rapper alive!! That's a fucking joke! Dude is garbage like some others have said in this thread.

    I don't know what Pearl Jam believes or stands for anymore. Once upon a time I could count on seeing pretty much eye to eye with Ed. Now? I really feel like I don't even know this band anymore. You're not supposed to lose your integrity when you get old and have kids. You're supposed to pass them on to your children so they can pass them on to theirs. But whatever...they wanna be a festival band now and whore themselves under a corporate logo that's their choice.

    I'd prob go to this if they had some better talent or some "real" rap acts on the list.
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  • Heisenberg
    Heisenberg Los Pollos Hermanos Posts: 4,958
    PJ on the BUDWEISER MADE IN AMERICA FEST? :problem:

    Maybe Jay-Z will get up and do the rap vocal for "Real Thing"
  • SpinTheBlackO
    SpinTheBlackO Posts: 385
    well this could be very cool. i for one am excited. i'm always open to new music.
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  • Lifted
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    63schoefflin wrote:
    Actually you may have a point with the better lineup than PJ20. I mean the Strokes are one of my faves so besides them I could do without the other bands. But I still made the trip out because I was not going to miss them. It's nice because most of the bands aren't even announce yet.

    And I heard Eddie is doing a duet with Beibs for the Xmas Single


    this lineup is definitely better than pj20 for me, and the bulk of it is unannounced. I understand that people are upset about the budweiser sponsorship and such, but i'm really shocked at how much people dislike jay-z on this board. and i think if people would look into the festival a little more, instead of just assuming they know all of the details, including the intentions of the performers on the bill, then maybe they'd lighten up a bit. i haven't seen pj since 2010, and i've never seen jay-z, so i'm really lookin forward to labor day weekend.
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