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lukin2006 · January 2012

Flagg wrote:

*sigh* I guess I ought to weigh in here too.

Agreed that Romo isn't the problem. I know a lot of people hate him and all that, but he had a really good season after a couple of bad games early. He didn't play last week and probably shouldn't have played against the Giants.
And he had zero protection all year. The very young, very green offensive line was over-matched much of the year. Tyron Smith was the lone bright spot here. Everyone else, well, I hope they improve next year. It doesn't matter how good your QB is or isn't when you can't block for him and protect him for more than 1 second.

Losing Demarco Murray really hurt. When you are bringing in 67 year old Sammy Morris you have problems at running back. I had no problem with them releasing Tashard Choice, but it was just unfortunate timing there.

The defense blew huge leads what, 4 times? The inability to hold a lead, inability to pressure the QB, or to cover even average receivers is the number one problem on this team. I have gone back and forth on blaming Rob Ryan but the simple fact of the matter is the defense is old and talentless as a whole. I think that was on display Sunday every time Newman ran out of breath while running two steps behind everyone. There is only one player on the defense worth his salary right now and that is Demarcus Ware and he can't do it alone.

They weren't good enough to overcome the many mistakes made by the players and the coaches. The icing of their own kicker in Arizona. I knew that would come back to haunt them. Blowing the huge lead against Detroit. The blocked field goal against the Giants. The back clock management all season. The defensive penalties on 3rd down. Good teams can overcome these. Bad to mediocre teams succumb to them and wind up 8-8 and out of the playoffs.

There are 21 Cowboys who are free agents after the season, and they are something like $20 million over the salary cap. It is going to get worse before it gets better.

I like your assessment...the salary...well, quite simply is because of Jone...he overpays for Free at left tackle, signed Ratliff, Witten and Sensenbaugh long term and I have doubts that they'll be on the roster at the end of the contract.

lukin2006 · January 2012

crazypjfan wrote:

tybird wrote:

I pray that the WR from Oklahoma State is NOT on the board when the Cowboys' pick rolls around.....because I can see Jerry using another first round pick on a position where they don't need the help. :roll:

If Jerry can't see that our secondary is the biggest need position and selects a wr in the first round...

Well, anything is possible with him in charge :roll:

Don't expect things to change...if there is a glamor player available Jones will select him.

goodforyou19 · January 2012

There are so many issues. Romo is what he is. He played pretty well most of the year but had some big f-ups. And he panics back there (maybe rightfully so at times behind that line), but he seems to get skittish at times when the pressure isn't even there (yet). But hell, look at what McGee did against Philly. Nada.

Defense is the biggest problem. Two playmakers (Ware, Lee) and a bunch of also-rans. Ratliff is great at times, then seems to take himself out of position other times. Other D-linemen aren't worth a crap. Did Marcus Spears or Spencer make ANY significant plays all year??? Secondary is old and dumb. Mass confusion on just about every play. No one seems to know where to go.

Good point brought up about Witten. Went down/out of bounds too easily vs. NYG.

This team's coaching ability and talent level are severely OVERRATED. I get a good belly-laugh out of the talking heads that talk about them having all this "talent". In the 90's yes, now, hell no. I heard one blowhard say Brees would trade his WR's for the the Cowboys WR core. Yeah right! Bryant and Austin were not that good this year. Robinson was good as a 3rd WR, that I will agree with.

The 2011 Cowboys were consistently disappointing. Every time you'd think they were onto something they'd let you down.

SatansFuton · January 2012

Yes, you guys have many problems, defense etc. And those should be addressed. But even once you patch all that up, you still have Romo. As I stated before, I don't blame him for this season, and in the second half he looked OK, he's just not an elite quarterback though. He's not a bust, but he's not going to take you guys anywhere either. Matt Flynn is likely going to leave Green Bay, I think Dallas needs to get in on that. The sun is rapidly setting on the Romo era, it's time to start building a future, and Flynn is the guy to build it around in my opinion. It's time to move on. Try to trade Romo for a good corner (which you really need), or somebody else to beef up the defense.

Wobbie · January 2012

Flagg wrote:

It is going to get worse before it gets better.

wonderful :roll:

lukin2006 · January 2012

SatansFuton wrote:

Yes, you guys have many problems, defense etc. And those should be addressed. But even once you patch all that up, you still have Romo. As I stated before, I don't blame him for this season, and in the second half he looked OK, he's just not an elite quarterback though. He's not a bust, but he's not going to take you guys anywhere either. Matt Flynn is likely going to leave Green Bay, I think Dallas needs to get in on that. The sun is rapidly setting on the Romo era, it's time to start building a future, and Flynn is the guy to build it around in my opinion. It's time to move on. Try to trade Romo for a good corner (which you really need), or somebody else to beef up the defense.

Really...based all on 1 game...

Somehow I think the Cowboys will be sticking with Romo...I myself don't know if he can win it all...I'd like to see him if he had a really good line blocking for him, a decent running game and a really good defense...if he has all that and their still only winning 8-9 games, then yes it's time for him to go.

But to think all their problems will be solved this off season, doubtful.

And besides their biggest problem is Jerry...can we trade him for Flynn or a corner

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SatansFuton · January 2012

lukin2006 wrote:

Really...based all on 1 game...

Flynn hasn't played in just one game. Though this last one certainly raised his stock. Last year he started the two games Rodgers was out, damn near beat the Patriots too, threw for 3 touchdown passes but on the last play of the game he got sacked and lost the ball. Every time he's been in a game he looked good. He was put in earlier this year when the Pack were blowing away Minnesota, and he looked great, even ran for a touchdown and did a Lambeau Leap. So no, it's not based on 1 game, he's played a lot more than that, and it's also based on his college career. Dude won a National Championship at LSU and was the MVP of the game, and he's shown he can play at the NFL level too. But his college career shows he can play in big games and handle the pressure, something which can't be said for Romo.

tybird · January 2012

SatansFuton wrote:

Yes, you guys have many problems, defense etc. And those should be addressed. But even once you patch all that up, you still have Romo. As I stated before, I don't blame him for this season, and in the second half he looked OK, he's just not an elite quarterback though. He's not a bust, but he's not going to take you guys anywhere either. Matt Flynn is likely going to leave Green Bay, I think Dallas needs to get in on that. The sun is rapidly setting on the Romo era, it's time to start building a future, and Flynn is the guy to build it around in my opinion. It's time to move on. Try to trade Romo for a good corner (which you really need), or somebody else to beef up the defense.

Won't have the cap space to chase a free agent of that caliber.....especially at a position where you are already paying someone a boat load of bucks....I expect a lot of QB movement in the off-season, but I don't see anyone biting on Romo.....Oakland will have two QBs after Campbell recovers, what is Indy going to do with the 1st pick and/or Peyton? There's Matt Flynn...does Philly keep Vince Young...and it's QB heavy draft.

lukin2006 · January 2012

SatansFuton wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Really...based all on 1 game...

Flynn hasn't played in just one game. Though this last one certainly raised his stock. Last year he started the two games Rodgers was out, damn near beat the Patriots too, threw for 3 touchdown passes but on the last play of the game he got sacked and lost the ball. Every time he's been in a game he looked good. He was put in earlier this year when the Pack were blowing away Minnesota, and he looked great, even ran for a touchdown and did a Lambeau Leap. So no, it's not based on 1 game, he's played a lot more than that, and it's also based on his college career. Dude won a National Championship at LSU and was the MVP of the game, and he's shown he can play at the NFL level too. But his college career shows he can play in big games and handle the pressure, something which can't be said for Romo.

So it's based on handful of games on a really good GB team with tons of talent. On a Dallas team, behind that offensive line...good luck to him. Jones would be wise to draft a QB...

cowboypjfan · January 2012

Flynn is this year's Kevin Kolb. I don't think he will end of being anything great, but he will get a lot of attention this off season.

cowboypjfan · January 2012

The Cowboys just hired Bill Polian as their GM :shock:

You know you are a true Cowboys fan if you didn't believe that for a second. Cmon, it's Jerry jack of all trades Jones we are talking about here. And boy does he jack up trades

SatansFuton · January 2012

Hey, if you guys don't want him that's cool, I was just throwing out a suggestion. But Romo's best years are sadly behind him I think. He's starting to break down physically. Although this last injury was a bit of a fluke, but still, he's injured more often than he's healthy. How long do you keep trying to force the issue before you finally give up and admit he's not the second coming of Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman? Even when he's healthy he hasn't been insanely good. And before you throw out stats, I don't really care, they can be deceiving, and I think Romo is one of those cases. You guys are the Dallas Cowboys, one of the flagship franchises in the league, you shouldn't be settling for Romo. I know everything is not his fault, but he's not helping matters in my opinion. Other things need to change as well. Before I even worried about the QB I'd be shopping for a new defensive coordinator.

I like Flynn, but he's leaving Green Bay, I would prefer he not go to the Cowboys since I'm obviously not a fan of the franchise, but I think he can do better than Romo. And he would certainly be popular as he's a hometown boy (not Dallas, but in-State) from Tyler. Only time will tell if he'll be any good, but he's looking pretty damn good. Romo didn't really prove himself before getting the starting job, you often have to take a chance. Flynn would be a chance, I'm not naive enough to say he's definitely going to work out, but I think continuing with Romo is a chance too.

Whether or not you like Garrett as a head coach (I personally don't) he is the perfect guy for developing a young quarterback. If not Flynn, than somebody. Romo is going to be 32 next season, and by the time this team gets its shit together who knows how old he'll be.

lukin2006 · January 2012

Not that I wouldn't want to take a chance on him...just will not work out in Dallas...I'm as diehard fan as you'll find, but as long as Jones is the GM it will never work...this team has only 1 playoff win since 1995, he's the common denominator since then.

It's just sucks that he doesn't realize it. I don't have a problem with him as an owner/president but for the good of the franchise hire a football guy to build this franchise.

tybird · January 2012

Spending money on the QB would not be in the team's best interest right now.....while Romo is probably more Danny White than Staubach or Aikman, he is closer to being part of the solution than part of the problem. The problem is trading for Roy Williams, spending first round picks on Felix Jones and Dez Bryant and hiring "Yes Men" as your head coach.

Wobbie · January 2012

Jerry doesn't want to "clutter up" the organization by adding a GM :roll:

goodforyou19 · January 2012

imalive wrote:

Jerry doesn't want to "clutter up" the organization by adding a GM :roll:

Just proves what we already knew. He doesn't realize he is the problem. Thinks the system is fine. No, sorry Jerry it is not fine. You have only a handful of recent draft picks that are worth a crap (Tyron Smith, Murray, Lee, Ware). You did find success with undrafted free agents (Romo, Austin), but for the most part your personnel decisions are horrendous. Look, I hate the Packers with a passion, but they are doing it the right way. Have guys that know how to evaluate personnel and build your team through the draft. Jerry, your system IS broken and needs to be fixed. How many failures do you want to endure before you wake up to this fact? Your system sucks Jerry!!!

cowboypjfan · January 2012

More BS:

Jerry Jones insists he’s the right G.M. for the Cowboys

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says he will remain Cowboys General Manager Jerry Jones, and no one is going to talk him out of that.

According to Jones, he has done a good job at the main roles of a G.M. — hiring a coach and acquiring talent — and therefore there’s no reason for him to quit doing that job.

“One of the first jobs of a G.M. is to have good coaching,” Jones said on 105.3 FM. “I think we’ve got good coaching. I know that they know it can be better, but every team can say that. I look at our coaching and I like it. I look at our personnel. We had a total of 71 players on the roster all year, 31 were new players. I look at the mix of players, the veteran, the young player, where we’re going to be with our core. I know we can do better, but I think there are some positives there.”

But doesn’t the Cowboys’ 8-8 record suggest that the coaching and the players aren’t good enough, and therefore the owner/general manager who put them in place isn’t good enough? Not according to Jones, who wants Cowboys fans to understand that he has access to all the information he needs to make the right calls.

“The way we’re structured and the way it is, our fans need to understand that I have the ability to go get anybody and any bit of information that there is, sports or football, and I do. I go get it. We get it from a lot of sources,” Jones said.

The bottom line is that the Cowboys belong to Jerry Jones, and he didn’t buy them to be a hands-off owner. As long as he owns the team, he’s calling the shots.

SatansFuton · January 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mufu9r2GS70

Flagg · January 2012

tybird wrote:

Spending money on the QB would not be in the team's best interest right now.....while Romo is probably more Danny White than Staubach or Aikman, he is closer to being part of the solution than part of the problem. The problem is trading for Roy Williams, spending first round picks on Felix Jones and Dez Bryant and hiring "Yes Men" as your head coach.

This.

A lot of people bag on Romo but really, he is the best player on this team. He is the one keeping this thing afloat. You have to go through about 10 things before you get to Romo. The secondary sucks, the linebackers are old and talentless (except Lee), the line gets no pressure and only has one good player, the offensive line is young, inexperienced and can't block, they had Sammy Morris at running back for God's sake, the GM who trades for and signs overpriced, under talented players, the boring and predictable play-calling, the boring and predictable defense that blitzes too often from the same exact location every time.

I know a couple of people don't like stats but he threw for almost 4200 yards this year. He had 31 TDs and 10 INTs and finished with a rating of 102.5. If anything, the Cowboys are wasting his prime years. And Ware's for that matter. I still say there are a lot of teams that would be glad to have those kind of number for their QB.

Romo is the very least of my worries about this crappy team. Did he have some mistakes? Sure. Who doesn't? But good teams overcome mistakes and this is not a good team at all. He makes a mistake and it kills them.

I am personally sick and tired of the defensive side of the ball. I guarantee they could take 9 guys off the street and replace Ball, Elam, Newman, Jenkins, James, Brooking, Spencer, Scandrick and Hatcher and do better. If you interchanged any of those guys with anyone else in the world would we even notice? Biggest bunch of non-playmakers ever.

tybird · January 2012

Flagg wrote:

tybird wrote:

Spending money on the QB would not be in the team's best interest right now.....while Romo is probably more Danny White than Staubach or Aikman, he is closer to being part of the solution than part of the problem. The problem is trading for Roy Williams, spending first round picks on Felix Jones and Dez Bryant and hiring "Yes Men" as your head coach.

This.

A lot of people bag on Romo but really, he is the best player on this team. He is the one keeping this thing afloat. You have to go through about 10 things before you get to Romo. The secondary sucks, the linebackers are old and talentless (except Lee), the line gets no pressure and only has one good player, the offensive line is young, inexperienced and can't block, they had Sammy Morris at running back for God's sake, the GM who trades for and signs overpriced, under talented players, the boring and predictable play-calling, the boring and predictable defense that blitzes too often from the same exact location every time.

I know a couple of people don't like stats but he threw for almost 4200 yards this year. He had 31 TDs and 10 INTs and finished with a rating of 102.5. If anything, the Cowboys are wasting his prime years. And Ware's for that matter. I still say there are a lot of teams that would be glad to have those kind of number for their QB.

Romo is the very least of my worries about this crappy team. Did he have some mistakes? Sure. Who doesn't? But good teams overcome mistakes and this is not a good team at all. He makes a mistake and it kills them.

I am personally sick and tired of the defensive side of the ball. I guarantee they could take 9 guys off the street and replace Ball, Elam, Newman, Jenkins, James, Brooking, Spencer, Scandrick and Hatcher and do better. If you interchanged any of those guys with anyone else in the world would we even notice? Biggest bunch of non-playmakers ever.

We got each other's back, Flagg....I almost added Marcus Spears to the draft debacles, but could not remember whether he was a first or second round pick.....and I was not knocking Danny White either....a very good QB in his time....three straight NFC championship games while not HOF worthy is still a good career...and he was the team's punter too.

The defensive side of the ball is the albatross around this team's neck....Romo was NOT out there letting Victor Cruz catch pass after pass.....he wasn't on the field when the Cardinals scored in OT....nor did he call the TO to ice his own kicker.

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