***Petition for 10c to re-stock PJ20 Blu Ray***

Thanks! Told ya I probably didn't know what I was talking about!

PLEASE make more available!!!!

Since my thread was locked (even though it brought up NEW topics not discussed here) I'll cut and paste my post here since, as I said, it brings up some topics that have not been discussed:

So I sent them an email asking them not only if the Deluxe Blu-Ray set would be made available again, but why it was made in such limited quantities in the first place.

This was the first response I got:

Sorry, the Deluxe DVD/Blu Ray are sold out. Everything that was made has sold.
The Standard Editions are available online & through local retailers.

Of course, that answered neither of my questions, and it was wrong. The Standard Edition of the Blu-ray is only available at Best Buy until AFTER Christmas, because Pearl Jam apparently no longer cares about independent stores.

I pointed that out to them, and then I got this email:

Items are made in limited quantities for various reasons, but most importantly by request of the band.

Sorry for the incorrect info below. You are correct in that it is only available through Best Buy.

Please know this item was in stock through http://www.pearljam.com 24 hours a day for exactly 24 day [sic]. We are sorry you did not have a chance to purchase one before they sold out. At present time there are no plans of manufacturing any more.

So, for those keeping score at home. Pearl Jam were the ones who decided that Best Buy, a corporate chain known for semi-illegal business practices and fraud, should be the only store that profits off the Blu-ray during the holiday season. It was Pearl Jam who decided that only fans who can spend their money right away would be the ones who could get the edition of the DVD/Blu-ray that they would care the most about.

I understand the concept of limited editions and special items. You're not going to see me complain about a poster being pulled or the scarcity of white Backspacer records. Why? Because those aren't stopping me from getting what really matters: audio/video footage of the band.

Songs should not be made scarce on purpose. Video should not be made scarce on purpose. There is absolutely NO REASON for it all all. NONE. It does two things:

1. Pisses off fans who may not always have disposable income at the right moment. Which I bet a lot of us didn't after the Canadian tour and PJ20 concert!

2. Creates a secondary market that is the same as scalping for tickets, something Pearl Jam isn't a fan of.

As for the Best Buy deal, the one that craps all over independent retailers, remember when Pearl jam crafted that deal with Target that still allowed them to sell the album at indie retailers? Here were some quotes I found from Kelly Curtis, regarding that deal:

""Target ended up allowing us to have other partners. We'll be able to take care of all levels of the Pearl Jam fan"

"Target was cool enough to realize that little independent record stores are not their competition."

"I make decisions around the band's business that are consistent with their overall philosophy, which is to sell music in a way that's accessible and affordable to their fans, on every distribution platform that their fans access music, and in a way that takes care of the little guys."

How anyone here can read those quotes and not think this two-pronged Blu-ray muck up isn't a slap in the face and hypocritical towards everything the band ever said is beyond me.

It's a depressing time to be a Pearl Jam fan.

I'd love a second chance at getting an order for one!!

The thing that upsets me the most, and sort of seems upsetting. Is that I feel many people, felt, myself included, that there wasn't enough info on what we were getting for the extra money. I was merely waiting for some accurate reports on what was on these mythical extra discs. Now somewhat unfairly only those with blind faith will get these discs. Ultimately I realize I can find a way to see this, and it's no big deal, it's just kind of strange to charge that much and only allow a certain amount produced and to sell out before anyone knows what the product even is.

I for one, am taking that fact that this thread is still up and running as a good sign. And our benevolent masters of Goods will smile upon us for our tenacity.

Of course, I have been known to make mistakes...from time to time...

bleep blorp/reenk roink
(fingers remained crossed)

I didn't realize how little time I had to purchase this. I also would like more pressed

mkeen411 wrote:

I didn't realize how little time I had to purchase this. I also would like more pressed

ditto.

Music For Rhinos wrote:

10c BLEW IT on this one.

I am becoming more disillusioned with this band and fanclub with each passing day. It's so obvious all they care about is making money. The whole point of them shifting away from Epic and starting Monkeywrench you would think would be to get away from the corporate machine....but really they're acting just like the bigwig companies they professed to hate back in the day.

What kind of band charges its fan club members to post on a board and sells large amounts of all kinds of ridiculous merchandise? They gouge the fans any chance they get and alienate large amounts of the fan base.

"Please I want to give you all my monies!"

I have been a loyal fan for 10 years and 10c member for 9 years but I'm pretty much done with this. I won't be renewing, I won't be buying any merch except maybe new music (the last 2 studio albums are trash). And for those who say "if you don't like it, don't buy it." That's not the point. The point is why is Pearl Jam so focused on producing all this merch crap. IT'S ABOUT THE MUSIC. PJ always prided themselves on being underground and grassroots and making tickets and merch, etc. easily affordable for fans. This is not the case anymore.

It's painfully clear Pearl Jam has taken a 180 degree turn here. And to those who say "well hey that is how they make their money..." Guess what? Every single member of PJ is set for life, EASILY. The things they are doing and have been doing the past few years point to one thing: G R E E D.

thats a bit rough.

but each to their own, I really loved advocado and BS - so to hear them labelled trash is a bit crazy,

regardless, the irony here is this thread is about a situation where the band could make a lot more money, but the limited product is preventing them doing so

It's time to give up folks.

I've been on this since the start. Trying to rally people, ask the questions, find solutions....

Think what you will about the discs being limited or not. Think what you will about whether those of us who didn't get one are whiners or not. Think what you will about the Ten Club ticket fiasco in both the Canadian tour and PJ20.

How the 10c can't come into a forum like this that has engaged so many of us and make a *simple* statement directly to address us is irresponsible. In my heart of hearts, I know PJ would be disgusted with 10c's absolute lack of accountability and communication ediquette to the members that it serves. Perhaps PJ wanted the discs to be limited. But they certainly wouldn't want 10c to hide in the corner when fans are clamouring to see the amazing visual history that epitomizes our passion.

In addition to all of this, we can't discuss trying to mobilize to produce discs for those who can no longer purchase them. So 10c has a monopoly on a product that isn't available anywhere else, chooses to make it not available (albeit for the probably the right reasons), and is censoring all discussion on copying the discs for those who didn't receive it.

In this year of all of us fans celebrating 20 years of Pearl Jam, the actions of 10 club this year are at best passive and unreliable and at the worst insulting and humiliating to its members.

I wanted to recognize those fellow 10c members who received the bluray or DVD LE discs and didn't view this as a bunch of us whining and joined our cause.

It's time to give up folks.