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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    What's good, weirdos? Just saw this posted on my FB page...

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    81 wrote:
    PureandEasy wrote:
    It must have been really bad heat wise because Halladay is probably the best conditioned Phillie of all. The man is a work horse and has a very regimented work out. He's in fantastic shape.

    For him to be affected by the heat like that is scary.

    there was a haze inside the ball park last night. it was disgusting. looks like it is going to be just as bad tonight.

    i felt bad for the players having to wear pants vs. shorts or whatever.

    thankfully the phils didn't have some up and coming assistant to the traveling secretary forcing them to wear cotton uniforms last night..... :mrgreen:
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  • 81
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    The Juggler wrote:
    81 wrote:
    PureandEasy wrote:
    It must have been really bad heat wise because Halladay is probably the best conditioned Phillie of all. The man is a work horse and has a very regimented work out. He's in fantastic shape.

    For him to be affected by the heat like that is scary.

    there was a haze inside the ball park last night. it was disgusting. looks like it is going to be just as bad tonight.

    i felt bad for the players having to wear pants vs. shorts or whatever.

    thankfully the phils didn't have some up and coming assistant to the traveling secretary forcing them to wear cotton uniforms last night..... :mrgreen:

    :lol:

    i don't care what nelly says, that was some shit weather to be playing in.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    I still think there had to be something else wrong with Doc. He never looked like himself. Well, hopefully he feels better today.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Would u guys trade Brown and say Cosart for Pence? No speculation just a convo i had with a buddy earlier. Pence is under control until 2014 and the kid would go nuts here imo.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,360
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Would u guys trade Brown and say Cosart for Pence? No speculation just a convo i had with a buddy earlier. Pence is under control until 2014 and the kid would go nuts here imo.

    Brown is still a fairly raw prospect with huge tools, right? And the guy we wouldn't trade for Roy Halladay. And now we're trading him for Hunter Pence? :?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Would u guys trade Brown and say Cosart for Pence? No speculation just a convo i had with a buddy earlier. Pence is under control until 2014 and the kid would go nuts here imo.

    i think it was jim salisburry's article on sunday...he had a scout say he wouldn't do that. he thinks brown will better in a couple years.

    people need to have patience with young dominic.

    i'd love to see both pence and brown in the corners somehow. don't think it's too possible though...
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Would u guys trade Brown and say Cosart for Pence? No speculation just a convo i had with a buddy earlier. Pence is under control until 2014 and the kid would go nuts here imo.

    Brown is still a fairly raw prospect with huge tools, right? And the guy we wouldn't trade for Roy Halladay. And now we're trading him for Hunter Pence? :?

    Exactly. And along with Cosart. Doesn't make any sense.
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Juggler wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Would u guys trade Brown and say Cosart for Pence? No speculation just a convo i had with a buddy earlier. Pence is under control until 2014 and the kid would go nuts here imo.

    i think it was jim salisburry's article on sunday...he had a scout say he wouldn't do that. he thinks brown will better in a couple years.

    people need to have patience with young dominic.

    i'd love to see both pence and brown in the corners somehow. don't think it's too possible though...

    Didn't see the article,was just throwing it out there. I'm sure Brown will be good but Pence is good and he's a righty. He's better and younger then Werth and the rest of MLB is seeing how much this lineup made Werth. Pence would kill it here,i think i'd call Ed up and at least see.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Would u guys trade Brown and say Cosart for Pence? No speculation just a convo i had with a buddy earlier. Pence is under control until 2014 and the kid would go nuts here imo.

    Brown is still a fairly raw prospect with huge tools, right? And the guy we wouldn't trade for Roy Halladay. And now we're trading him for Hunter Pence? :?

    Exactly. And along with Cosart. Doesn't make any sense.
    The Phillies the same team that Over values every good minor leaguer. I think Cosart if healthy will be a stud.

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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    I think you're trying to say that the Phillies over-value prospects? Even though they have traded them away at an increasing rate? How is that overvaluing?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    If someone trades for Pence, you are buying really really high. Good player but not sure you can expect this years production to continue. Maybe you can, but it's a big gamble.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    I still think there had to be something else wrong with Doc. He never looked like himself. Well, hopefully he feels better today.

    I'm going with hangover. chicago has a ton of quality drinking establishments

    JP, I saw that nunez stuff. I think he's kinda erratic. I wouldn't give up much for him. I think he'd poop himself in playoffs.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    If someone trades for Pence, you are buying really really high. Good player but not sure you can expect this years production to continue. Maybe you can, but it's a big gamble.

    Exactly. Maybe Pence for Brown or Cosart straight up, but not both. And even that is a stretch. For Houston to trade Pence to Philly it needs to be for a steal because Houston's new owner I don't think has any interest in seeing the Astros continue to be the AAAA Phillies for Ed Wade. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Wade isn't even back next year.
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    I think you're trying to say that the Phillies over-value prospects? Even though they have traded them away at an increasing rate? How is that overvaluing?
    Yeah sorry tryn to type and work sometimes my fingers don't keep up. They have traded alot but even going back for years they've always thought they had the next star. Point is trading Brown and say Cosart or Worley for Pence to me is a smart move.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Would u guys trade Brown and say Cosart for Pence? No speculation just a convo i had with a buddy earlier. Pence is under control until 2014 and the kid would go nuts here imo.

    Brown is still a fairly raw prospect with huge tools, right? And the guy we wouldn't trade for Roy Halladay. And now we're trading him for Hunter Pence? :?

    yeah, I wouldn't give up that much.

    colvin and singleton are the two I would label as untouchable...and I'd only give up may or cosart if I absolutely had to.

    I'd probably do pence for cosart or brown straight up...but not for both
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    jamminpearls wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Would u guys trade Brown and say Cosart for Pence? No speculation just a convo i had with a buddy earlier. Pence is under control until 2014 and the kid would go nuts here imo.

    i think it was jim salisburry's article on sunday...he had a scout say he wouldn't do that. he thinks brown will better in a couple years.

    people need to have patience with young dominic.

    i'd love to see both pence and brown in the corners somehow. don't think it's too possible though...

    Didn't see the article,was just throwing it out there. I'm sure Brown will be good but Pence is good and he's a righty. He's better and younger then Werth and the rest of MLB is seeing how much this lineup made Werth. Pence would kill it here,i think i'd call Ed up and at least see.

    I'm still not sold on browns swing. And his defense...yikes. I know he's young, but this team is built to win right now
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    The Fixer wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    I still think there had to be something else wrong with Doc. He never looked like himself. Well, hopefully he feels better today.

    I'm going with hangover. chicago has a ton of quality drinking establishments

    JP, I saw that nunez stuff. I think he's kinda erratic. I wouldn't give up much for him. I think he'd poop himself in playoffs.

    Yeah, but he'd be better in the 7th innings than Herndon or Baez or whatever. I honestly don't see a relief move being really worth it unless it's a Bell or an Adams(which would really be nasty), but at the same time I don't think what they would have to give up would be worth it. Lidge, Stutes, Bastardo, Madson - in that oder in a game. So you're talking about bringing someone in to move Stutes to a less pressure-filled spot and leaving the 7th/8th to Bastardo and whom ever they would bring in. Whatever move they would make, it would need to be a big move, and I think help in the outfield is more of a pertinent issue.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    If someone trades for Pence, you are buying really really high. Good player but not sure you can expect this years production to continue. Maybe you can, but it's a big gamble.

    he's signed thru 2012 too, which makes him more appealing IMO

    I'd trade brown for him in a heartbeat
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    I still think there had to be something else wrong with Doc. He never looked like himself. Well, hopefully he feels better today.

    I'm going with hangover. chicago has a ton of quality drinking establishments

    JP, I saw that nunez stuff. I think he's kinda erratic. I wouldn't give up much for him. I think he'd poop himself in playoffs.

    Yeah, but he'd be better in the 7th innings than Herndon or Baez or whatever. I honestly don't see a relief move being really worth it unless it's a Bell or an Adams(which would really be nasty), but at the same time I don't think what they would have to give up would be worth it. Lidge, Stutes, Bastardo, Madson - in that oder in a game. So you're talking about bringing someone in to move Stutes to a less pressure-filled spot and leaving the 7th/8th to Bastardo and whom ever they would bring in. Whatever move they would make, it would need to be a big move, and I think help in the outfield is more of a pertinent issue.

    I hear ya. they do need pen help. stutes is already leaking a bit due to the increased workload. don't mean to sound overly negative, but ya gotta figure bastardo is next. he hasn't been a durable guy throughout his career and he's pitched more than he ever has.

    they could use another LH reliever too. I'm not sold on JC Perez
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