This is what America needs

usamamasan1
usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
edited June 2012 in A Moving Train
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Some statistics show that Texas alone accounted for nearly half of all jobs created in the US since the 2008-09 recession

low taxes
low spending
de-regulation

Let's do this!

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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    For what percentage of jobs lost did Texas account during the recession?
  • snow_board_rider
    snow_board_rider Posts: 943
    edited July 2011
    Wow. There are short sighted, forgetful people among us. Bush left this country better than the one he inherited, correct? Not the way I see it. Good luck buddy.
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    please read posting guidelines. name calling is not ok. Please stay on topic as I would hate for this thread to get locked like the Rick Perry- The next President thread.

    Thanks. :D
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    snow_board_rider wrote:
    Wow. There are short forgetful people among us. Bush left this country better than the one he inherited, correct? Not the way I see it. Good luck buddy.

    Though I'm hardly ... hardly ... a Rick Perry fan ... what does he have to do with George Bush?
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  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    Perry is a very polarizing figure here in TX. It would be fascinating to see him take his show on a presidential campaign. Full disclosure, i cannot stand the man, our school system and public health care is in shambles. how do i know? i have 2 children and wife is a current educator, does that make me biased? yes, thx!

    also, low taxes is somewhat of a myth if your a homeowner. my tax rate (all inclusive w/water, school, county, and state tops at 4% of home value). if you deduct prop tax, mortgage interest, and other standard deductibles, guess what is on the horizon? AMT baby...

    my biggest gripe about perry was his utter lack of balls unwilling to hold one fkn debate last year vs white. on top of that, the dude would not conduct open interviews w/press unless questions were pre-arranged.

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  • slightofjeff
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    RFTC wrote:
    Perry is a very polarizing figure here in TX. It would be fascinating to see him take his show on a presidential campaign. Full disclosure, i cannot stand the man, our school system and public health care is in shambles. how do i know? i have 2 children and wife is a current educator, does that make me biased? yes, thx!

    also, low taxes is somewhat of a myth if your a homeowner. my tax rate (all inclusive w/water, school, county, and state tops at 4% of home value). if you deduct prop tax, mortgage interest, and other standard deductibles, guess what is on the horizon? AMT baby...

    my biggest gripe about perry was his utter lack of balls unwilling to hold one fkn debate last year vs white. on top of that, the dude would not conduct open interviews w/press unless questions were pre-arranged.

    hope this helps!

    I generally vote Republican ... yet, I find Perry to be somewhat of an extremist. Don't think I could vote for him.
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  • brianlux
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    My favorite Texan for President would be Willie Nelson... but I don't think a presidential candidate is what the Tea Pot Party has in mind. :D
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Texas may rank high in number of jobs created but we're dead last in most other categories. Unless you want to look at it upside down--for example, among the states we have the highest percentage of residents without health insurance.

    I can't see how deregulation has been beneficial for most people. It may attract businesses to the state but it hasn't improved things for the consumer. After a few years of electricity deregulation, Texans still pay some of the highest rates in the country for electricity. It's especially strange since we're sitting on nice big reserves of natural gas, which is used to produce the electricity.

    I keep reading about how Texas has created such a big number of jobs but I'm still trying to figure out where they all are. I spent the better part of 2 years out of work and there are still many people who are unemployed.

    Perry is not as popular in Texas as he would have you believe. In spite of the fact that he kept denying it, he's spent the last couple of years running for prez. I think he'd be amusing to watch in a national race but the idea that he'd be good for the country is scary to me. There's not a lot of brains under that nice head of hair.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I'll go on record as saying Rick Perry will not be elected President. All you need to know is right here:

    A budget shortfall as high as $27 billion is projected as lawmakers work through the 2011 legislative session, according to estimates from economists and the comptroller's office. There is unity on the amount of its budget shortfall, however. Republicans who argue spending does not need to be maintained or grow from 2010-11 levels argue the shortfall could be around ...

    Read More...

    http://www.texastribune.org/texas-taxes ... shortfall/

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  • snow_board_rider
    snow_board_rider Posts: 943
    slightofjeff wrote:
    snow_board_rider wrote:
    Wow. There are short forgetful people among us. Bush left this country better than the one he inherited, correct? Not the way I see it. Good luck buddy.

    Though I'm hardly ... hardly ... a Rick Perry fan ... what does he have to do with George Bush?

    Perry = Bush

    Both are Texan GOP candidates that will fill their cronies pockets and take from the poor.
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    snow_board_rider wrote:
    Perry = Bush

    Deep.

    What does Perry take from the poor?
    What cronies pockets does he line?

    Thanks for your contribution...in advance
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    whoprincess wrote:
    nice head of hair.

    how much less would electricity cost without the deregulation you speak of? Higher prices in itself is not a loss. Would electricity be cheaper without the deregulation you speak of? Last I checked, energy was expensive.
    RFTC wrote:
    also, low taxes is somewhat of a myth if your a homeowner. my tax rate (all inclusive w/water, school, county, and state tops at 4% of home value). if you deduct prop tax, mortgage interest, and other standard deductibles, guess what is on the horizon? AMT baby...

    hope this helps!

    In Texas, the homestead exemption allows a deduction equal to 20% of the house value on a principal residence. Basically, the exemption removes part of your home’s value from being taxed, ultimately lowering your property taxes. If your home were appraised for $200,000, you would qualify for a $40,000 exemption. You would pay taxes on the homes as if it was worth $160,000. The benefit of the homestead exemption is a significant amount of savings.
    Additionaly,
    The homestead exemption is considered such a basic and important right in some states,including Florida and Texas, that it is mandated by the state's constitution. This prevents the state's legislature from modifying or repealing the exemption by statute.
    I wouldn't even buy land contracts or deeds of trust in Florida or Texas for this very reason when I was making hay in that field many years ago. too debtor friendly.
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Isn't he the treasonous guy who threatened to make Texas it's own country?

    Shouldn't he be like in Jail or something?
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited July 2011
    RFTC wrote:
    my biggest gripe about perry was his utter lack of balls unwilling to hold one fkn debate last year vs white. on top of that, the dude would not conduct open interviews w/press unless questions were pre-arranged.
    Perry has never lost an election.

    and for some background
    An Eagle Scout and graduate of Texas A&M University, Perry was an Air Force pilot before resigning with the rank of Captain in 1977 and returning to West Texas to farm with his father.

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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Some statistics show that Texas alone accounted for nearly half of all jobs created in the US since the 2008-09 recession

    Yeah, sadly most of them are jobs picking crops or cleaning up after natural disasters. So unless you want people to all make minimum wage or plan to set a lot of wild fires... that might not really be a statistic you want to wave around too much.
    low taxes
    low spending
    de-regulation

    Let's do this!

    We did. In the 80s. It's what caused the near total economic collapse of the late 80s that lasted into the mid 90s.

    We then tried it in the 00s. And it's why we're fucked now.

    How is it that people are unable to grasp that you can't have "low taxes and low spending" and still have a country that works?

    And most of all... why is it that after all the disasters and catastrophes caused by de-regulating things, the baggers still bang that "de-regulaton" drum?

    Do you even know what it means?

    That means that you'll pay much higher prices for unsafe products and lower-quality. Do you really want to live in the kind of world that Walmart would make?
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    and yet you claim to be a job creator in other threads because you have a gardener and housekeep and trainer? Ha!
    You can't have it both ways....



    oh, wait. :problem:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Yeah, sadly most of them are jobs picking crops or cleaning up after natural disasters.

    source?
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    edited July 2011
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    and yet you claim to be a job creator in other threads because you have a gardener and housekeep and trainer? Ha!


    Um.. no. I never made such a ridiculous claim.

    In fact... quite the opposite.

    I was very clear that giving me a pointlessly big tax cut would NOT create any more jobs. Because I only need one trainer, I only need the one gardener and I only need the one accountant.

    Taxing me higher just means less money stock-piled in my bank account where it doesn't do much.

    But taxing me higher means more money for the middle class... which means more consumer demand and therefore a more robust economy. See, I create a product that people need to buy. And if the middle class isn't buying... I'm not making any money. So I want the middle class to have a lower tax burden so my movies can sell (even) better than they do.

    Shall I draw you a pie chart?
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Yeah, sadly most of them are jobs picking crops or cleaning up after natural disasters.

    source?

    I'll make you a deal.

    Your first words in this thread were
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Some statistics show that

    And yet you provided no source.

    so in your own words...

    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Ha!
    You can't have it both ways....
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    By the way...
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    So... who gets credit for creating jobs again?



    I'll give you a few minutes to study that. :idea:
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  • cincybearcat
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    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Isn't he the treasonous guy who threatened to make Texas it's own country?

    Shouldn't he be like in Jail or something?

    If so, someone should certainly cut the crotch out of all his pants. ;)
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