The thinking is that women intentionally give themselves miscarriages as a sort of do-it-yourself abortion. So this is to punish those women with no access to a safe and legal abortion. So they have to investigate every miscarriage. Cause we can afford that.
The thinking is that women intentionally give themselves miscarriages as a sort of do-it-yourself abortion. So this is to punish those women with no access to a safe and legal abortion. So they have to investigate every miscarriage. Cause we can afford that.
yikes.
thanks I will be contacting those dopes today to give them my thoughts on the matter. Don't live in GA but that kind of stupid crosses state lines.
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The thinking is that women intentionally give themselves miscarriages as a sort of do-it-yourself abortion. So this is to punish those women with no access to a safe and legal abortion. So they have to investigate every miscarriage. Cause we can afford that.
yikes.
thanks I will be contacting those dopes today to give them my thoughts on the matter. Don't live in GA but that kind of stupid crosses state lines.
A woman with whom I am very close (not a wealthy woman) used to drive by a family planning clinic on her way to work everyday. One day she noticed a group of anti-abortionists picketing and harrassing women who were going in for services. She got out of her car and went up to the group of people harrassing the women and said, "I'm going into this clinic and I'm going to write them a check for $100.00 and I'm going to do this every time I see you here until you stop harrassing these women." She paid out several checks for $100.00 but in the long run she single-handedly drove off the offensive crowd!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"I can promise you when Bobby Jindal over on my eastern flank comes up with a new way to deliver health care because he is just a brilliant guy when it comes to policy issues dealing with health and human services, we'll go over there and snatch that in a minute and implement it in our state. When Brian Sandoval in Nevada comes up with a new way to deal with taxation and it will fit into our system in Texas we'll go put that in and try it. If some state decides to do something like pass a health care plan that, you know, is kind of like this Obama thing and it's a failure then we kind of go, 'ooh, we don't want to do that,' and that state may have been harmed by it, but the whole nation was not."
Clinton advisor Dick Morris
“The pathetic performance of President Obama in the debt debate is showing the left how incompetent and weak a leader it selected.”
A woman with whom I am very close (not a wealthy woman) used to drive by a family planning clinic on her way to work everyday. One day she noticed a group of anti-abortionists picketing and harrassing women who were going in for services. She got out of her car and went up to the group of people harrassing the women and said, "I'm going into this clinic and I'm going to write them a check for $100.00 and I'm going to do this every time I see you here until you stop harrassing these women." She paid out several checks for $100.00 but in the long run she single-handedly drove off the offensive crowd!
That's an awesome story. I'd consider doing the same except... I don't have a spare $100! Bummer.
That sounds to me like a personal attack.
Check yourself.
No, it's just being realistic.
You support someone who intentionally hides birth control information from teens. Don't see it as a problem because, as you said, it's not affected you. We'll see if you feel the same way when it has.
See, I talk about how gay issues affect me personally and my family. You complain that I talk about "gay" stuff too much. We'll see if you feel the same way when bad social policies start to affect your life.
Let's say one of your kids grows up and is gay... will you still feel the same way when those laws Perry supports starts to hurt your own family?
I sure hope not. I think you're misguided but you don't actually seem like a bad guy at all. But if you can dish it out, you're going to have to learn how to take it.
Good...more debate over a candidate's stance on sex ed, abortion and evolution. Thanks for biting on the distraction while we've been driven to the brink of fiscal collapse.
Good...more debate over a candidate's stance on sex ed, abortion and evolution. Thanks for biting on the distraction while we've been driven to the brink of fiscal collapse.
don't you know that these are the only issues that you can run on in some states?
"what? you're pro life? well son you just earned my vote!"
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Good...more debate over a candidate's stance on sex ed, abortion and evolution. Thanks for biting on the distraction while we've been driven to the brink of fiscal collapse.
don't you know that these are the only issues that you can run on in some states?
"what? you're pro life? well son you just earned my vote!"
Unfortunately, that shallow thinking runs both ways. "Pro-life? Well, then I must immediately dismiss the rest of their platform."
I'm pro-choice, but would never vote for an elected official based on their stance. Most people aren't humble enough to admit that, given our lack of knowledge on the nature of life, both sides of the issue have a valid argument. We drive ourselves crazy with philosophical debates while our economic foundation quakes.
And yet you are against the death penalty for life that is not innocent...
"We know the greatest darkness comes just before the morning,"
Rick Perry, Saturday
for all of the reasons i have given ad nauseum in other threads i am against the death penalty in all cases.
so what is your point?
the only reason that fetus people are defending is innocent is because it has not been out of the womb and has not had a chance to mess anything up or do something to become guilty... we are imperfect, remember? so it's gonna be guilty of something at some point...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
More than 1 million jobs have been added to nonfarm payrolls in Texas since Perry took office.
This is what America needs.
Maybe I'm missing something here but my first thought is- with less than 2% of Americans working as farmers, SHOULDN'T WE WANT FARMING JOBS ADDED TO THE PAYROLL? Of course, as you can guess, my hope would be more jobs on small independent organic farms-- the kind of farms that grow good healthy food as opposed to the fake chemical factory "food" that is making us a physically sick nation.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Yep, America sure needs a religious idiot at the helm. I mean, it's not as if the neo-cons did enough damage under Bush. I'm sure there are plenty more Americans waiting eagerly to be royally fucked by this asshole:
"Father, our heart breaks for America. We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see anger in the halls of government, and as a nation we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us, and for that we cry out for your forgiveness," Perry said.
His rhetorical style is derived from the tent preachers of the Old West, and the crowd stood enthusiastically throughout, responding with amens.
Much of secular and liberal America watches anxiously at the prospect of another Texas president tied to the Christian evangelical movement. That unease is shared by progressive Christians who fear Perry is identifying with the most conservative church leaders.
The American Family Association (AFA), which runs a network of 200 radio stations – and which has been labelled a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Centre for its attitude to gay people – contributed an estimated $1m towards the cost of the rally.
The Cornerstone Church – whose leader, John Hagee, gained notoriety for declaring that Hurricane Katrina was God's vengeance on a sinful New Orleans and suggesting that Jews had brought the Holocaust on themselves – sent about 700 members, travelling from San Antonio by car and bus.
Elva Spoor said she had come with the Cornerstone delegation so "God can bless us and give us rain and turn the nation back to God". But what about gay people? "God says he loves everyone but he hates the sin," said Spoor. "God says it is an aberration to him."
...The event provoked a backlash in Texas, including a lawsuit by atheists aimed at stopping it, charging that Perry was in breach of the separation of politics and religion. On Saturday, a plane flew over the stadium with a banner with the same message about separation of politics and religion. Other Christian churches held alternative prayer meetings on Friday and Saturday.
Among about 150 protesters outside the stadium was Pastor Katherine Godby. Carrying a poster saying "Hate Is Not A Gospel Value", she expressed sadness that Perry had aligned himself with the AFA.
Godby, of the First Congregational United Church of Christ in Fort Worth, said: "We see their portrayal of the gospel as one of exclusion and hatred."
Jennifer Stephenson, a mother of three from San Antonio carrying a "Christians Against Perry" placard, described the attitude of groups such as the AFA as "un-Christian".
She was worried that disillusionment with Obama among leftwing voters might open the way for a possible Perry presidency. "I think Perry has a good chance, unfortunately. He is good-looking, brought a lot of jobs to this state and has got a lot of Christians behind him," she said. "The Christian voting bloc is a force to contend with."
Yep, America sure needs a religious idiot at the helm. I mean, it's not as if the neo-cons did enough damage under Bush. I'm sure there are plenty more Americans waiting eagerly to be royally fucked by this asshole:
"Father, our heart breaks for America. We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see anger in the halls of government, and as a nation we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us, and for that we cry out for your forgiveness," Perry said.
His rhetorical style is derived from the tent preachers of the Old West, and the crowd stood enthusiastically throughout, responding with amens.
Much of secular and liberal America watches anxiously at the prospect of another Texas president tied to the Christian evangelical movement. That unease is shared by progressive Christians who fear Perry is identifying with the most conservative church leaders.
The American Family Association (AFA), which runs a network of 200 radio stations – and which has been labelled a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Centre for its attitude to gay people – contributed an estimated $1m towards the cost of the rally.
The Cornerstone Church – whose leader, John Hagee, gained notoriety for declaring that Hurricane Katrina was God's vengeance on a sinful New Orleans and suggesting that Jews had brought the Holocaust on themselves – sent about 700 members, travelling from San Antonio by car and bus.
Elva Spoor said she had come with the Cornerstone delegation so "God can bless us and give us rain and turn the nation back to God". But what about gay people? "God says he loves everyone but he hates the sin," said Spoor. "God says it is an aberration to him."
...The event provoked a backlash in Texas, including a lawsuit by atheists aimed at stopping it, charging that Perry was in breach of the separation of politics and religion. On Saturday, a plane flew over the stadium with a banner with the same message about separation of politics and religion. Other Christian churches held alternative prayer meetings on Friday and Saturday.
Among about 150 protesters outside the stadium was Pastor Katherine Godby. Carrying a poster saying "Hate Is Not A Gospel Value", she expressed sadness that Perry had aligned himself with the AFA.
Godby, of the First Congregational United Church of Christ in Fort Worth, said: "We see their portrayal of the gospel as one of exclusion and hatred."
Jennifer Stephenson, a mother of three from San Antonio carrying a "Christians Against Perry" placard, described the attitude of groups such as the AFA as "un-Christian".
She was worried that disillusionment with Obama among leftwing voters might open the way for a possible Perry presidency. "I think Perry has a good chance, unfortunately. He is good-looking, brought a lot of jobs to this state and has got a lot of Christians behind him," she said. "The Christian voting bloc is a force to contend with."
Oh goodie, more religious fanaticism. Just what we need. What next? JonestownII?
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
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there are a few of them...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/2 ... 27340.html
http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011 ... ty-georgia
http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/blog_mass_d ... /ID=10416/
The thinking is that women intentionally give themselves miscarriages as a sort of do-it-yourself abortion. So this is to punish those women with no access to a safe and legal abortion. So they have to investigate every miscarriage. Cause we can afford that.
yikes.
thanks I will be contacting those dopes today to give them my thoughts on the matter. Don't live in GA but that kind of stupid crosses state lines.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
A woman with whom I am very close (not a wealthy woman) used to drive by a family planning clinic on her way to work everyday. One day she noticed a group of anti-abortionists picketing and harrassing women who were going in for services. She got out of her car and went up to the group of people harrassing the women and said, "I'm going into this clinic and I'm going to write them a check for $100.00 and I'm going to do this every time I see you here until you stop harrassing these women." She paid out several checks for $100.00 but in the long run she single-handedly drove off the offensive crowd!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Thanks! It really was brave of her! I'm not afraid to speak my mind but I'm a chicken shit when it comes to confronting a hostile crowd!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"I can promise you when Bobby Jindal over on my eastern flank comes up with a new way to deliver health care because he is just a brilliant guy when it comes to policy issues dealing with health and human services, we'll go over there and snatch that in a minute and implement it in our state. When Brian Sandoval in Nevada comes up with a new way to deal with taxation and it will fit into our system in Texas we'll go put that in and try it. If some state decides to do something like pass a health care plan that, you know, is kind of like this Obama thing and it's a failure then we kind of go, 'ooh, we don't want to do that,' and that state may have been harmed by it, but the whole nation was not."
Clinton advisor Dick Morris
“The pathetic performance of President Obama in the debt debate is showing the left how incompetent and weak a leader it selected.”
usamamasan1
Obama is a disaster, Rick Perry for President!
Rick Perry is a disaster and so is his lipstick on a pig attempt to make it look like Texas isn't about to implode.
He's just another Neo-Con who's trying to wring one last drop of blood out of the poor before the revolution begins.
You want to live in a place like that? Please move to Texas and join that cessation movement.
That's an awesome story. I'd consider doing the same except... I don't have a spare $100! Bummer.
Well luckily there's a beach in Texas. It's kinda oil-soaked and a lot of dead animals wash up on it, but hey... Woot!
I really do get a kick out of how you can't defend a single one of this failures (and there are a lot) and deflect with poor attempts at comedy.
We'll wait 'til your daughter is knocked up at 18. Then we'll see how you feel.
Check yourself.
No, it's just being realistic.
You support someone who intentionally hides birth control information from teens. Don't see it as a problem because, as you said, it's not affected you. We'll see if you feel the same way when it has.
See, I talk about how gay issues affect me personally and my family. You complain that I talk about "gay" stuff too much. We'll see if you feel the same way when bad social policies start to affect your life.
Let's say one of your kids grows up and is gay... will you still feel the same way when those laws Perry supports starts to hurt your own family?
I sure hope not. I think you're misguided but you don't actually seem like a bad guy at all. But if you can dish it out, you're going to have to learn how to take it.
"what? you're pro life? well son you just earned my vote!"
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"We know the greatest darkness comes just before the morning,"
Rick Perry, Saturday
Unfortunately, that shallow thinking runs both ways. "Pro-life? Well, then I must immediately dismiss the rest of their platform."
Peace.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
so what is your point?
the only reason that fetus people are defending is innocent is because it has not been out of the womb and has not had a chance to mess anything up or do something to become guilty... we are imperfect, remember? so it's gonna be guilty of something at some point...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
This is what America needs.
adding more than a million non-farm jobs in a state like texas just seems unrealistic to me...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Maybe I'm missing something here but my first thought is- with less than 2% of Americans working as farmers, SHOULDN'T WE WANT FARMING JOBS ADDED TO THE PAYROLL? Of course, as you can guess, my hope would be more jobs on small independent organic farms-- the kind of farms that grow good healthy food as opposed to the fake chemical factory "food" that is making us a physically sick nation.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/au ... -to-prayer
"Father, our heart breaks for America. We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see anger in the halls of government, and as a nation we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us, and for that we cry out for your forgiveness," Perry said.
His rhetorical style is derived from the tent preachers of the Old West, and the crowd stood enthusiastically throughout, responding with amens.
Much of secular and liberal America watches anxiously at the prospect of another Texas president tied to the Christian evangelical movement. That unease is shared by progressive Christians who fear Perry is identifying with the most conservative church leaders.
The American Family Association (AFA), which runs a network of 200 radio stations – and which has been labelled a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Centre for its attitude to gay people – contributed an estimated $1m towards the cost of the rally.
The Cornerstone Church – whose leader, John Hagee, gained notoriety for declaring that Hurricane Katrina was God's vengeance on a sinful New Orleans and suggesting that Jews had brought the Holocaust on themselves – sent about 700 members, travelling from San Antonio by car and bus.
Elva Spoor said she had come with the Cornerstone delegation so "God can bless us and give us rain and turn the nation back to God". But what about gay people? "God says he loves everyone but he hates the sin," said Spoor. "God says it is an aberration to him."
...The event provoked a backlash in Texas, including a lawsuit by atheists aimed at stopping it, charging that Perry was in breach of the separation of politics and religion. On Saturday, a plane flew over the stadium with a banner with the same message about separation of politics and religion. Other Christian churches held alternative prayer meetings on Friday and Saturday.
Among about 150 protesters outside the stadium was Pastor Katherine Godby. Carrying a poster saying "Hate Is Not A Gospel Value", she expressed sadness that Perry had aligned himself with the AFA.
Godby, of the First Congregational United Church of Christ in Fort Worth, said: "We see their portrayal of the gospel as one of exclusion and hatred."
Jennifer Stephenson, a mother of three from San Antonio carrying a "Christians Against Perry" placard, described the attitude of groups such as the AFA as "un-Christian".
She was worried that disillusionment with Obama among leftwing voters might open the way for a possible Perry presidency. "I think Perry has a good chance, unfortunately. He is good-looking, brought a lot of jobs to this state and has got a lot of Christians behind him," she said. "The Christian voting bloc is a force to contend with."
Chris Hedges on "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America"
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/2/19/c ... scists_the
Oh goodie, more religious fanaticism. Just what we need. What next? JonestownII?
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
Hang in there Usamamasan, you're not as alone as this mob tries to make you think you are.
Rick Perry will win the Presidency in 2012.
And another Texas Republican Presdent will chap a lot of asses in this forum.
It's gonna be so sweet....
you're going to have so many tea partiers splitting the conservative vote in the primary that you'll be LUCKY to end up with Mitt Romney.
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll