EA Games, which announced Monday it will open a new studio in Austin, Texas, presented Perry with his own player avatar in the company's latest football video game, NCAA Football 12.
Perry's avatar is a quarterback wearing the uniform of his alma mater, Texas A&M.
"His stats aren’t too shabby either," EA said on the company blog. "It looks like Gov. Perry is quite the athlete, with an overall score of 99 and some impressive numbers!" EA will take advantage of the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive, a tax incentive program the company credits to Perry's push for economic development as governor.
"Gov. Perry's leadership in passing the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive has created an economic environment that is very supportive of game development," EA Games President Frank Gibeau said in a statement.
EA Games, which announced Monday it will open a new studio in Austin, Texas, presented Perry with his own player avatar in the company's latest football video game, NCAA Football 12.
Perry's avatar is a quarterback wearing the uniform of his alma mater, Texas A&M.
"His stats aren’t too shabby either," EA said on the company blog. "It looks like Gov. Perry is quite the athlete, with an overall score of 99 and some impressive numbers!"
OK, so a politician who can play football. Because we all want guys from the football team running the country. And a guy from the football team who can be bribed with a video game console. Nobody who plays video games all day could be a bad leader, right? :roll:
EA will take advantage of the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive, a tax incentive program the company credits to Perry's push for economic development as governor.
"Gov. Perry's leadership in passing the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive has created an economic environment that is very supportive of game development," EA Games President Frank Gibeau said in a statement.
OK. And what does that mean for the people of Texas, exactly?
Because it sounds to me like saying "he's got this one tax credit that will create an environment where a tech company can make lots of money and not pay much in taxes and not really create a lot of jobs."
Jobs. Not video games. Jobs.
These jobs are skilled jobs. Not minimum wage.
to be fair to OP, his point of the EA games story was legit. perry is big on this 'texas enterprise fund, texas technical fund', (the exact name escapes me), that has attracted hi-tech companies to TX, mainly Austin. Now there are many critics that claim the fund is managed by cronies and the tax breaks provided to attract are above market standards. i cannot criticize it as some of the incoming companies HAVE helped my business.
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how is my name associated w/this bad ass pic, i do not even know how to post pics on the boards, wtf?
Christian zealots all smell the same to me.
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This expansion has the intention to creat 300 jobs. Tell it to those families it's not a big deal. Tell it to their gardeners, trainers and housekeepers as well.
This expansion has the intention to creat 300 jobs. Tell it to those families it's not a big deal. Tell it to their gardeners, trainers and housekeepers as well.
Creating jobs is key right now. I'm not on the Perry bandwagon, but if he is helping create jobs, then good for him.
The freak-out of giving tax breaks to companies if they move to your state is mind boggling to me. EA will create 300 jobs. That is 300 more salaries that can be spent in the local area creating more jobs and services. Car washes, movie theaters, auto shops, sandwich shops, etc. And all these mofo's pay ... (drumroll) ... TAXES!
I will point out one a very ironic scenario once more ... the Hollywood Left freaks out and is outraged about tax breaks and enticements given by states to large corporations ... and then DO THE EXACT SAME THING when moving their sets to Vancouver, Toronto, and New Zealand to take advantage of the lower operating cost because of tax breaks and enticements.
all it does is move the jobs from one place to another ... which means more profits for the corporations ... so, yeah ... maybe this guy's program did create jobs but i'm pretty sure those jobs came at the expense of others losing jobs ...
what is the result then? ... another state then has to offer even higher incentives and lower taxes ... what is the end result? ...
the economy is in the shitter in the US because of a multitude of reasons ... focusing on jobs as your sole priority without thinking of the long-term consequences is what got america to where it is now ...
Jason P,
Very well said.
California is the worst state to do business in. Bleeding jobs. Not to mention taxes, the regulation is stifling. For example, I think you have to wait two years to be able to franchise in this state (Calofornia) Two years?
private sector jobs hopefuly. And it might now be clear to many of you that without a robust economy, we can't pay for shit. First things first, better or worse. Private sector economic growth.
all it does is move the jobs from one place to another ... which means more profits for the corporations ... so, yeah ... maybe this guy's program did create jobs but i'm pretty sure those jobs came at the expense of others losing jobs ...
what is the result then? ... another state then has to offer even higher incentives and lower taxes ... what is the end result? ...
the economy is in the shitter in the US because of a multitude of reasons ... focusing on jobs as your sole priority without thinking of the long-term consequences is what got america to where it is now ...
It's not just moving jobs around. Companies do expand and when they expand they usually have to apply for bank loans. At that point, they are going to have to consider the pros and cons of different locations and that will depend on factors such as operation costs, availability of talent and raw materials, etc. In regards to EA specifically, it's a new expansion and it's creating 300 new jobs.
EA's headquarters is in Redwood City. I'm sure EA considered the Bay Area as a logical primary candidate, but they were enticed to move the expansion a mere 1,700 miles away. Now Austin's talent pool is given yet another shot in the arm and it will become more enticing to other tech companies as a location as its tech resume grows.
California's loss is Texas' gain.
If the lawmakers around this country can't see that, then the above sentence will need to be revised to "United State's loss is the World's gain".
like your post says ... california's loss is texas gain ...
the state debt in texas has doubled with Perry as governor ... sure, you can make splashy headlines with this and that but the reality is that they are borrowing against nothing to have short term relief at the expense of long term stability ... this is the story playing itself across america ...
This expansion has the intention to creat 300 jobs. Tell it to those families it's not a big deal. Tell it to their gardeners, trainers and housekeepers as well.
Ok but 5 posts back you were slagging me off for having a trainer and a gardener and a house keeper and an accountant.
Like you said, you can't have it both ways.
I'll agree that yes... this kind on incentive is a good thing. Keeping those types of jobs in America is a good thing. We used to make things in America and now we're just consumers. Many Americans are being left behind.
So don't think I'm saying the game thing isn't a "good" idea. But taking jobs from one state to another isn't necessarily going to work on a national level. Can that same idea work to keep business and attract business to America?
And most of all... what happens to the revenue, if any?
Perry is famous for gutting education... that's not something I'm comfortable with no matter how many tech jobs he moves from one state to another.
how much less would electricity cost without the deregulation you speak of? Higher prices in itself is not a loss. Would electricity be cheaper without the deregulation you speak of? Last I checked, energy was expensive.
Yup, it sure is. From Business Pundit, July 17, 2008:
Texas Electricity Deregulation Leads to Highest Prices in the Nation
From today’s Wall Street Journal:
Texas had some of the cheapest power rates in the country when it zapped most of the state’s electric regulations six years ago, convinced that rollicking competition would drive prices even lower.
This summer, electricity there is some of the nation’s priciest.
Power costs are rising in the rest of the U.S., but everything is bigger in Texas: On a hot day in May, wholesale prices rose briefly to more than $4 a kilowatt hour — about 40 times the national average.
Deregulation is was supposed to bring prices down. What happened? The Journal’s research cites the following:
–Rising fuel costs are part of the problem (power generators use natural gas)
–Texas’ electricity demand is the highest in the nation. Is infrastructure wasn’t designed to accommodate the freewheeling demand, so there are transmission problems
After deregulating its electricity, Texas’ utilities companies saw several changes. A handful of electricity retailers and small businesses collapsed. They transferred customer accounts to bigger, more expensive retailers.
The plan that promised Texans more choices and lower rates has had the opposite effect. Poor planning (even Texas’ newer, more efficient plants still use natural gas), a free economy that created a rash of middlemen, many of them unexperienced, and expensive daily auctions add to the mess.
Question of the day: Can electricity successfully be deregulated? We’re going to face questions like these more and more as various energy industries pop up to replace oil.
Of course, you have to consider the source, since the WSJ is such a left-wing, liberal news source. :roll:
BTW, you do know that in Texas Perry is referred to as Governor Goodhair? Hence my reference to his hair.
like your post says ... california's loss is texas gain ...
the state debt in texas has doubled with Perry as governor ... sure, you can make splashy headlines with this and that but the reality is that they are borrowing against nothing to have short term relief at the expense of long term stability ... this is the story playing itself across america ...
I don't know any specifics of Texas, so Perry may well be burning the candle at both ends. But right now I'm in Indiana and our governor, Mitch Daniels, has done some very alarming things.
He deregulated the unions in government jobs when he took office
He has enticed companies to relocate business to the state (I was enticed to move back due to job creation from these enticements ... Cali was getting my tax money earlier in the decade)
He leased the money-pit toll roads to private business for profit.
He has made spending cuts.
He made Indiana switch to day-light savings (oddly enough, his most controversial decision by a long-shot)
Yesterday it was announced that the state has a $1.2 billion dollar surplus. Not too shabby.
Jason P,
Very well said.
California is the worst state to do business in. Bleeding jobs. Not to mention taxes, the regulation is stifling. For example, I think you have to wait two years to be able to franchise in this state (Calofornia) Two years?
private sector jobs hopefuly. And it might now be clear to many of you that without a robust economy, we can't pay for shit. First things first, better or worse. Private sector economic growth.
I think the whole "tax cuts create jobs" line of thinking is assumed truth by many, but I'm not sure it's reality. In my state, there has been almost as many jobs created as there has been in Texas in proportion to the population. People voted in an increase in the corporate tax rate that has been in effect for a year and half, during these job gains.
Isn't the saying "what happens in Texas should stay in Texas"? or something like that.
All giving tax breaks to companies to move to your state is just doing what polaris_x said. Which is just shifting from one state to another. For those of you that think that giving company’s tax breaks create more jobs you are dead wrong. Since 2003 major companies have seen record profits and have done nothing to create jobs. It's called running "Lean & Mean”. Which means you hold out as long as you can sacrifice customer service, quality and basically running your employees into the ground until it’s impossible to do anymore? Then they will start hiring again. I work for a Hotel and that’s how we are running and that’s what the big wigs want us doing. We are going to run 90% occupancy for the month of July. We need at least 3 agents at the desk during the day and three at night. What do we do? 1 starts at 7 then at 11am a mid shift comes in then at 5 morning shift leaves then night comes in. These kids are tired and done. Our customer service scores are starting to suffer now so I am sure we will be hiring in about a month. BTW we have been making budget the past 3 years. My owners are rich & loaded.
like your post says ... california's loss is texas gain ...
the state debt in texas has doubled with Perry as governor ... sure, you can make splashy headlines with this and that but the reality is that they are borrowing against nothing to have short term relief at the expense of long term stability ... this is the story playing itself across america ...
I don't know any specifics of Texas, so Perry may well be burning the candle at both ends. But right now I'm in Indiana and our governor, Mitch Daniels, has done some very alarming things.
He deregulated the unions in government jobs when he took office
He has enticed companies to relocate business to the state (I was enticed to move back due to job creation from these enticements ... Cali was getting my tax money earlier in the decade)
He leased the money-pit toll roads to private business for profit.
He has made spending cuts.
He made Indiana switch to day-light savings (oddly enough, his most controversial decision by a long-shot)
Yesterday it was announced that the state has a $1.2 billion dollar surplus. Not too shabby.
that's pretty good ... not too sure how many states can boast a surplus these days ... did he do it through tax cuts? ...
The freak-out of giving tax breaks to companies if they move to your state is mind boggling to me. EA will create 300 jobs. That is 300 more salaries that can be spent in the local area creating more jobs and services. Car washes, movie theaters, auto shops, sandwich shops, etc. And all these mofo's pay ... (drumroll) ... TAXES!
Well and that's something that I've been saying all along. Giving me a huge personal tax cut does nothing. I don't need any more domestic employees. Although I'll admit a nice vegan chef would be a plus but I digress.
My industry is NEVER going to get tax incentives. And that's fine, I do just fine without them.
Now let's maybe give those same incentives to places that manufacture... get those jobs back from Asia and put America back to work. Then the people have jobs... they spend their money... they pay taxes.
Jobs aren't created by giving rich people money to sock away, jobs are created by consumer demand... people buying things and wanting more.
the Hollywood Left freaks out and is outraged about tax breaks and enticements given by states to large corporations ... and then DO THE EXACT SAME THING when moving their sets to Vancouver, Toronto, and New Zealand to take advantage of the lower operating cost because of tax breaks and enticements.
Ok, I was in your corner until this rather misleading thing.
First... Let's please not try to do a "us against them" thing. We're not playing on different teams... we're all American. Even me, and I'm also Canadian. This isn't the "Hollywood Left" like you're talking about The Borg. Not everyone in Hollywood is a liberal. Many of the big studio heads are, in fact, greedy sons of bitches who'll shoot where they can spend the least and make the most. So don't put everyone into the same box.
And the "Hollywood Left" doesn't "freak out" when tax breaks are given to encourage job creation... but they DO get pretty frustrated with the idea that giving billionaires personal tax cuts because it's been shown over and over again that THAT DOES NOT WORK.
Jobs. Not video games. Jobs.
These jobs are skilled jobs. Not minimum wage.
to be fair to OP, his point of the EA games story was legit. perry is big on this 'texas enterprise fund, texas technical fund', (the exact name escapes me), that has attracted hi-tech companies to TX, mainly Austin. Now there are many critics that claim the fund is managed by cronies and the tax breaks provided to attract are above market standards. i cannot criticize it as some of the incoming companies HAVE helped my business.
It's the Enterprise Fund. During the legislative session that just ended, Perry was more than willing to cut education but not the Enterprise Fund.
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EA Games, which announced Monday it will open a new studio in Austin, Texas, presented Perry with his own player avatar in the company's latest football video game, NCAA Football 12.
Perry's avatar is a quarterback wearing the uniform of his alma mater, Texas A&M.
"His stats aren’t too shabby either," EA said on the company blog. "It looks like Gov. Perry is quite the athlete, with an overall score of 99 and some impressive numbers!"
EA will take advantage of the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive, a tax incentive program the company credits to Perry's push for economic development as governor.
"Gov. Perry's leadership in passing the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive has created an economic environment that is very supportive of game development," EA Games President Frank Gibeau said in a statement.
OK, so a politician who can play football. Because we all want guys from the football team running the country. And a guy from the football team who can be bribed with a video game console. Nobody who plays video games all day could be a bad leader, right? :roll:
OK. And what does that mean for the people of Texas, exactly?
Because it sounds to me like saying "he's got this one tax credit that will create an environment where a tech company can make lots of money and not pay much in taxes and not really create a lot of jobs."
But ya know... I'm a socialist, apparently.
i guess we also need a big fat ass president that matches our collective ever expanding bellies...
this guy has as much of a chance to win as sarah palin and ron paul...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
These jobs are skilled jobs. Not minimum wage.
Christian zealots all smell the same to me.
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
and blind people should be allowed to carry concealed weapons!!!!
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
to be fair to OP, his point of the EA games story was legit. perry is big on this 'texas enterprise fund, texas technical fund', (the exact name escapes me), that has attracted hi-tech companies to TX, mainly Austin. Now there are many critics that claim the fund is managed by cronies and the tax breaks provided to attract are above market standards. i cannot criticize it as some of the incoming companies HAVE helped my business.
MGM Grand - Jul 6, 2006
Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006
New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival - May 1, 2010
Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011
Made In America, Philly - Sep 2, 2012
EV, Houston - Nov 12-13, 2012
Dallas-November 2013
OKC-November 2013
ACL 2-October 2014
Fenway Night 1, August 2016
Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018
Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023
Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023
Austin, Night 1 September 2023
Austin, Night 2 September 2023
MGM Grand - Jul 6, 2006
Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006
New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival - May 1, 2010
Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011
Made In America, Philly - Sep 2, 2012
EV, Houston - Nov 12-13, 2012
Dallas-November 2013
OKC-November 2013
ACL 2-October 2014
Fenway Night 1, August 2016
Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018
Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023
Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023
Austin, Night 1 September 2023
Austin, Night 2 September 2023
Ok and how many? And how much does it contribute to the state? Is just a vanity project to impress people or will it actually "do" something?
Creating a few jobs but paying few if any taxes looks good on a news paper cover but doesn't really do the state much good.
Come on.....this guy just looks like an asshole.
The freak-out of giving tax breaks to companies if they move to your state is mind boggling to me. EA will create 300 jobs. That is 300 more salaries that can be spent in the local area creating more jobs and services. Car washes, movie theaters, auto shops, sandwich shops, etc. And all these mofo's pay ... (drumroll) ... TAXES!
I will point out one a very ironic scenario once more ... the Hollywood Left freaks out and is outraged about tax breaks and enticements given by states to large corporations ... and then DO THE EXACT SAME THING when moving their sets to Vancouver, Toronto, and New Zealand to take advantage of the lower operating cost because of tax breaks and enticements.
what is the result then? ... another state then has to offer even higher incentives and lower taxes ... what is the end result? ...
the economy is in the shitter in the US because of a multitude of reasons ... focusing on jobs as your sole priority without thinking of the long-term consequences is what got america to where it is now ...
Very well said.
California is the worst state to do business in. Bleeding jobs. Not to mention taxes, the regulation is stifling. For example, I think you have to wait two years to be able to franchise in this state (Calofornia) Two years?
I don't believe that is how growth works.
Shareholders pay more taxes then.
private sector jobs hopefuly. And it might now be clear to many of you that without a robust economy, we can't pay for shit. First things first, better or worse. Private sector economic growth.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-07-18/business/os-ea-expands-in-austin-20110718_1_maitland-studio-tiburon-studio-chillingo
EA's headquarters is in Redwood City. I'm sure EA considered the Bay Area as a logical primary candidate, but they were enticed to move the expansion a mere 1,700 miles away. Now Austin's talent pool is given yet another shot in the arm and it will become more enticing to other tech companies as a location as its tech resume grows.
California's loss is Texas' gain.
If the lawmakers around this country can't see that, then the above sentence will need to be revised to "United State's loss is the World's gain".
the state debt in texas has doubled with Perry as governor ... sure, you can make splashy headlines with this and that but the reality is that they are borrowing against nothing to have short term relief at the expense of long term stability ... this is the story playing itself across america ...
Ok but 5 posts back you were slagging me off for having a trainer and a gardener and a house keeper and an accountant.
Like you said, you can't have it both ways.
I'll agree that yes... this kind on incentive is a good thing. Keeping those types of jobs in America is a good thing. We used to make things in America and now we're just consumers. Many Americans are being left behind.
So don't think I'm saying the game thing isn't a "good" idea. But taking jobs from one state to another isn't necessarily going to work on a national level. Can that same idea work to keep business and attract business to America?
And most of all... what happens to the revenue, if any?
Perry is famous for gutting education... that's not something I'm comfortable with no matter how many tech jobs he moves from one state to another.
Of course, you have to consider the source, since the WSJ is such a left-wing, liberal news source. :roll:
BTW, you do know that in Texas Perry is referred to as Governor Goodhair? Hence my reference to his hair.
He deregulated the unions in government jobs when he took office
He has enticed companies to relocate business to the state (I was enticed to move back due to job creation from these enticements ... Cali was getting my tax money earlier in the decade)
He leased the money-pit toll roads to private business for profit.
He has made spending cuts.
He made Indiana switch to day-light savings (oddly enough, his most controversial decision by a long-shot)
Yesterday it was announced that the state has a $1.2 billion dollar surplus. Not too shabby.
I think the whole "tax cuts create jobs" line of thinking is assumed truth by many, but I'm not sure it's reality. In my state, there has been almost as many jobs created as there has been in Texas in proportion to the population. People voted in an increase in the corporate tax rate that has been in effect for a year and half, during these job gains.
Isn't the saying "what happens in Texas should stay in Texas"? or something like that.
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I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
that's pretty good ... not too sure how many states can boast a surplus these days ... did he do it through tax cuts? ...
Well and that's something that I've been saying all along. Giving me a huge personal tax cut does nothing. I don't need any more domestic employees. Although I'll admit a nice vegan chef would be a plus but I digress.
My industry is NEVER going to get tax incentives. And that's fine, I do just fine without them.
Now let's maybe give those same incentives to places that manufacture... get those jobs back from Asia and put America back to work. Then the people have jobs... they spend their money... they pay taxes.
Jobs aren't created by giving rich people money to sock away, jobs are created by consumer demand... people buying things and wanting more.
Ok, I was in your corner until this rather misleading thing.
First... Let's please not try to do a "us against them" thing. We're not playing on different teams... we're all American. Even me, and I'm also Canadian. This isn't the "Hollywood Left" like you're talking about The Borg. Not everyone in Hollywood is a liberal. Many of the big studio heads are, in fact, greedy sons of bitches who'll shoot where they can spend the least and make the most. So don't put everyone into the same box.
And the "Hollywood Left" doesn't "freak out" when tax breaks are given to encourage job creation... but they DO get pretty frustrated with the idea that giving billionaires personal tax cuts because it's been shown over and over again that THAT DOES NOT WORK.
1. Menudo was from Puerto Rico.
2. Ricky Martin was a member of Menudo.
3. I love Ricky Martin. Not only is he hot and talented and gay... he's um... well... well that's enough for me.