This is what America needs

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Some statistics show that Texas alone accounted for nearly half of all jobs created in the US since the 2008-09 recession
    So you guys created like, 12 jobs?
    Let me guess....in the oil industry? wow, impressive.
    My province (Alberta) created more jobs last quarter than your entire country.....wait for it....in the oil industry.
    The price of oil goes up, more jobs are created in oil-rich areas. Buuuuut....it's more fun to pretend it's tax/spending cuts, and partisan initiatives that are creating these jobs.
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    Yeah, this is what we need another rich guy taxing the shit out of the poor and giving cuts to the wealthy. Facts below about Texas.

    Texas households earning $29,223 or less are expected to spend 6 percent of their income in general sales taxes and 5.3 percent of their income on school property taxes in 2013. The report says households earning more than $29,223 are likely to spend on average no more than 3.4 percent of their income on each of the two taxes.

    Texas is among 10 states with "particularly regressive" tax systems. One result is that low-income families "pay almost six times as much of their earnings in taxes as do the wealthy" and "middle-income families in these states pay up to three-and-a-half times as high a share of their income as the wealthiest families."
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    We did. In the 80s. It's what caused the near total economic collapse of the late 80s that lasted into the mid 90s.

    We then tried it in the 00s. And it's why we're fucked now.

    How is it that people are unable to grasp that you can't have "low taxes and low spending" and still have a country that works?

    At what point did we have low spending during those years? We have run on a deficit for just about every year save for the few years Clinton had a balanced budget...and things got going pretty well in this country. So what is wrong with spending what you take in? worked for Clinton...you would think it would work again if people would let it...How do people think he transferred a budget surplus?

    you can have a great country with low, reasonable spending, and low reasonable taxes.
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    Heres another nugget on the texas budget. I thought Republicabns were suppossed to be the fiscally sound? Texas needs nearly $27 billion more than the state expects to raise from taxes and other sources to maintain current government services and programs through 2012-13. 2012 Texas shortfall to be $13.4 billion, equal to nearly 30 percent of the 2011 budget.
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    Wow. There are short sighted, forgetful people among us. Bush left this country better than the one he inherited, correct? Not the way I see it. Good luck buddy.


    To be fair, they are different people but trust me, you don't want Rick Perry to be president.

    The OP forgets to mention how far in debt Texas is, how low we rank in education, how many people we have that are uninsured, the percentage of the population in prison, etc.

    Rick Perry is a hypocrite of the highest order. He talks tough on spending except when it applies to his lavish taxpayer funded mansion and his ridiculous security entourage and his trips around the country and around the world to make speeches.
    DAL-7/5/98,10/17/00,6/9/03,11/15/13
    BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
    MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
    PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
    CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
    HTFD-6/27/08
    ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
    KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
    Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
    PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
    OKC-11/16/13
    SEA-12/6/13
    TUL-10/8/14
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Wall Street Journal June 10, 2011
    Using Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) data, Dallas Fed economists looked at state-by-state employment changes since June 2009, when the recession ended. Texas added 265,300 net jobs, out of the 722,200 nationwide, and by far outpaced every other state. New York was second with 98,200, Pennsylvania added 93,000, and it falls off from there. Nine states created fewer than 10,000 jobs, while Maine, Hawaii, Delaware and Wyoming created fewer than 1,000. Eighteen states have lost jobs since the recovery began.

    "Capital—both human and investment—is highly mobile, and it migrates all the time to the places where the opportunities are larger and the burdens are lower. Texas has no state income tax. Its regulatory conditions are contained and flexible. It is fiscally responsible and government is small. Its right-to-work law doesn't impose unions on businesses or employees. It is open to global trade and competition: Houston, San Antonio and El Paso are entrepôts for commerce, especially in the wake of the North American Free Trade Agreement."

    The Texas economy has grown on average by 3.3% a year over the last two decades, compared with 2.6% for the U.S. overall. Yet the core impulse of Obamanomics is to make America less like Texas and more like California, with more government, more unions, more central planning, higher taxes. That the former added 37% of new U.S. jobs suggests what an historic mistake this has been.
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    Perry can deliver.
    He doesn’t have the MittCare baggage.
    He has firmly rejected cap and trade
    Perry brings the Tea Party, business conservatives and social conservatives together.

    Woot
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    shadowcast wrote:
    Heres another nugget on the texas budget. I thought Republicabns were suppossed to be the fiscally sound? Texas needs nearly $27 billion more than the state expects to raise from taxes and other sources to maintain current government services and programs through 2012-13. 2012 Texas shortfall to be $13.4 billion, equal to nearly 30 percent of the 2011 budget.

    Yeah, and he solved that little crisis by slashing Medicaid contributions and cutting the education budget so severely it resulted in thousands of teachers losing their jobs which will of course drive us even further down the ranks in education.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/opini ... ugman.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/ ... P120110629

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Perry- ... 07629.html


    Oh, he's also a fucking nut:
    https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-sto ... rmy-of-god
    DAL-7/5/98,10/17/00,6/9/03,11/15/13
    BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
    MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
    PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
    CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
    HTFD-6/27/08
    ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
    KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
    Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
    PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
    OKC-11/16/13
    SEA-12/6/13
    TUL-10/8/14
  • Isn't he the treasonous guy who threatened to make Texas it's own country?

    Shouldn't he be like in Jail or something?

    If so, someone should certainly cut the crotch out of all his pants. ;)


    haha... you know, I got the idea for that from an episode of the Golden Girls. Yeah, it was a dick move but he'd bought all those pants using my credit cards.. so technically, I paid for them, I had the receipts and they were all mine. So... well they didn't fit me..
  • mikepegg44 wrote:
    We have run on a deficit for just about every year save for the few years Clinton had a balanced budget...and things got going pretty well in this country. So what is wrong with spending what you take in? worked for Clinton...you would think it would work again if people would let it...How do people think he transferred a budget surplus?

    Agreed. Wish people could remember that all the silly "let the banks and corporations rip you off, cheat you and pat no taxes and THAT will save the economy" is what got us into this mess.
  • Perry can deliver.
    He doesn’t have the MittCare baggage.
    He has firmly rejected cap and trade
    Perry brings the Tea Party, business conservatives and social conservatives together.

    Woot


    So... you're just going to ignore all of the posts which show that you're 100% wrong and are hitching your wagon to the four horses of the Apocalypse. A very Tea Party response.

    Know that you're wrong. Vote for the white guy from Texas anyway since THAT's always worked out for us.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    huh? that makes no sense to me. :lol:
  • huh? that makes no sense to me. :lol:

    Does anything make sense to you?
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    this does...

    EA Games, which announced Monday it will open a new studio in Austin, Texas, presented Perry with his own player avatar in the company's latest football video game, NCAA Football 12.

    Perry's avatar is a quarterback wearing the uniform of his alma mater, Texas A&M.


    "His stats aren’t too shabby either," EA said on the company blog. "It looks like Gov. Perry is quite the athlete, with an overall score of 99 and some impressive numbers!"
    EA will take advantage of the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive, a tax incentive program the company credits to Perry's push for economic development as governor.

    "Gov. Perry's leadership in passing the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive has created an economic environment that is very supportive of game development," EA Games President Frank Gibeau said in a statement.
  • this does...

    EA Games, which announced Monday it will open a new studio in Austin, Texas, presented Perry with his own player avatar in the company's latest football video game, NCAA Football 12.

    Perry's avatar is a quarterback wearing the uniform of his alma mater, Texas A&M.


    "His stats aren’t too shabby either," EA said on the company blog. "It looks like Gov. Perry is quite the athlete, with an overall score of 99 and some impressive numbers!"

    OK, so a politician who can play football. Because we all want guys from the football team running the country. And a guy from the football team who can be bribed with a video game console. Nobody who plays video games all day could be a bad leader, right? :roll:
    EA will take advantage of the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive, a tax incentive program the company credits to Perry's push for economic development as governor.

    "Gov. Perry's leadership in passing the Texas Moving Image Production Incentive has created an economic environment that is very supportive of game development," EA Games President Frank Gibeau said in a statement.

    OK. And what does that mean for the people of Texas, exactly?

    Because it sounds to me like saying "he's got this one tax credit that will create an environment where a tech company can make lots of money and not pay much in taxes and not really create a lot of jobs."

    But ya know... I'm a socialist, apparently.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    i thought america needs MORE guns???

    i guess we also need a big fat ass president that matches our collective ever expanding bellies...

    this guy has as much of a chance to win as sarah palin and ron paul...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    Add this to the Texas education legacy. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/60- ... 17066.html
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Jobs. Not video games. Jobs.
    These jobs are skilled jobs. Not minimum wage.
  • arthurdent
    arthurdent Posts: 969
    RFTC wrote:

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    God Bless America


    Christian zealots all smell the same to me.
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  • arthurdent
    arthurdent Posts: 969
    i thought america needs MORE guns???

    and blind people should be allowed to carry concealed weapons!!!!
    Rock me Jesus, roll me Lord...
    Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    Jobs. Not video games. Jobs.
    These jobs are skilled jobs. Not minimum wage.

    to be fair to OP, his point of the EA games story was legit. perry is big on this 'texas enterprise fund, texas technical fund', (the exact name escapes me), that has attracted hi-tech companies to TX, mainly Austin. Now there are many critics that claim the fund is managed by cronies and the tax breaks provided to attract are above market standards. i cannot criticize it as some of the incoming companies HAVE helped my business.
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