Give A Man A Fish...

Teach a man to fish, but only after you've taken all of the fish... then charge the man an inflated amount in exchange for releasing a few fish for him to catch.

Dems - Reward poor and lazy people with handouts. Do not educate people on/practice personal responsibility and give privliages as rights, that most other people work and pay for. They have created a culture of entitlements. This ensures them votes as these people are dependant on the gov. to provide for all their basic needs.

The poor in the u.s.a. are not poor by any standard. If you are given free food/shelter/cloathing/water/education, etc... you are not poor.

Parachute wrote:

I heard a saying the other day:

"Give a man a fish, he can feed himself for a day. Teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for life."

Then I saw this bumper sticker:

"Liberalism: Give a man a fish. Conservatism: Teach a man to fish."


It seems that, while simplified, the metaphor is fairly accurate...

Just wondering what others think of it.... cheers.

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That simple saying works... as long as the man doing the teaching is a hunter, not a fisherman... right?
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So, are conservatives okay with teaching a man to fish... and having him fish in the same waters as himself?
That expands to... are Conservatives okay with trainning and educating people to take over THEIR jobs? Or do they want to teach poor people to compete for someone else's job.

Cosmo wrote:

Parachute wrote:

I heard a saying the other day:

"Give a man a fish, he can feed himself for a day. Teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for life."

Then I saw this bumper sticker:

"Liberalism: Give a man a fish. Conservatism: Teach a man to fish."


It seems that, while simplified, the metaphor is fairly accurate...

Just wondering what others think of it.... cheers.

...
That simple saying works... as long as the man doing the teaching is a hunter, not a fisherman... right?
...
So, are conservatives okay with teaching a man to fish... and having him fish in the same waters as himself?
That expands to... are Conservatives okay with trainning and educating people to take over THEIR jobs? Or do they want to teach poor people to compete for someone else's job.

yes actually they are...as competition is what conservatives should be about. Fake conservatives may not be, but competition in the work place benefits companies as well as consumers

Cosmo wrote:

Parachute wrote:

I heard a saying the other day:

"Give a man a fish, he can feed himself for a day. Teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for life."

Then I saw this bumper sticker:

"Liberalism: Give a man a fish. Conservatism: Teach a man to fish."


It seems that, while simplified, the metaphor is fairly accurate...

Just wondering what others think of it.... cheers.

...
That simple saying works... as long as the man doing the teaching is a hunter, not a fisherman... right?
...
So, are conservatives okay with teaching a man to fish... and having him fish in the same waters as himself?
That expands to... are Conservatives okay with trainning and educating people to take over THEIR jobs? Or do they want to teach poor people to compete for someone else's job.

Yes, in the private sector... What kind of work do you do?
Because in my field (private engineering) it is enforced that people continue to grow, its really the only way to succeed.
Do you think socialized health care will breed doc/practices to exceed if there is no encentive?

Blockhead wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

conservatives are not into social programs such as education ... they believe that the control of education should be determined and controlled by the individual and that items like this and health care should be privatized and determined by the free market ... where its every person for themselves ...

feel free to correct me ...

And the problem lies where??? There will always be charities...
Taking away individuality/competition is not a good thing for society...

first of all ... thanks for corroborating my point ... secondly, it's only a problem if your end goal is an educated society ... the US is essentially a conservative nation ... and all one has to do is see where it stands in the OECD PISA survey to see how well educated americans are ...

mikepegg44 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Parachute wrote:

I heard a saying the other day:
"Give a man a fish, he can feed himself for a day. Teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for life."
Then I saw this bumper sticker:
"Liberalism: Give a man a fish. Conservatism: Teach a man to fish."
It seems that, while simplified, the metaphor is fairly accurate...
Just wondering what others think of it.... cheers.

...
That simple saying works... as long as the man doing the teaching is a hunter, not a fisherman... right?
...
So, are conservatives okay with teaching a man to fish... and having him fish in the same waters as himself?
That expands to... are Conservatives okay with trainning and educating people to take over THEIR jobs? Or do they want to teach poor people to compete for someone else's job.

yes actually they are...as competition is what conservatives should be about. Fake conservatives may not be, but competition in the work place benefits companies as well as consumers

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But in the real world, specifically, the U.S, for the better part, most people.... competition for their jobs... are okay with it as long as it's someone else's job. I don't think there are many people willing to train someone younger to take over their job... just as I don't think the fisherman will teach someone to fish, if it takes fish off his own table.
The only exception i can see are people who are poised to retire within the next few years.

polaris_x wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

conservatives are not into social programs such as education ... they believe that the control of education should be determined and controlled by the individual and that items like this and health care should be privatized and determined by the free market ... where its every person for themselves ...

feel free to correct me ...

And the problem lies where??? There will always be charities...
Taking away individuality/competition is not a good thing for society...

first of all ... thanks for corroborating my point ... secondly, it's only a problem if your end goal is an educated society ... the US is essentially a conservative nation ... and all one has to do is see where it stands in the OECD PISA survey to see how well educated americans are ...

We can thank our (socialized) public schooling for that...

Blockhead wrote:

We can thank our (socialized) public schooling for that...

hahaha ... america and socialized is like saying alaska and tropical ...