Give A Man A Fish...
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I heard a saying the other day:
"Give a man a fish, he can feed himself for a day. Teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for life."
Then I saw this bumper sticker:
"Liberalism: Give a man a fish. Conservatism: Teach a man to fish."
It seems that, while simplified, the metaphor is fairly accurate...
Just wondering what others think of it.... cheers.
"Give a man a fish, he can feed himself for a day. Teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for life."
Then I saw this bumper sticker:
"Liberalism: Give a man a fish. Conservatism: Teach a man to fish."
It seems that, while simplified, the metaphor is fairly accurate...
Just wondering what others think of it.... cheers.
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Its just not true.
So.... I fail to see your point.
I also fail to see why some people think Unions have to be instrumental in the education process.... in case thats where you were going.
What are the "fish" in your metaphor?
an easier way to state that analogy; All Liberals want to give lazy people everything they need to do nothing and live care-free life. All Conservatives want to give lazy people nothing and let them all figure it out on their own, which they will surely do.
The poor in the u.s.a. are not poor by any standard. If you are given free food/shelter/cloathing/water/education, etc... you are not poor.
feel free to correct me ...
That simple saying works... as long as the man doing the teaching is a hunter, not a fisherman... right?
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So, are conservatives okay with teaching a man to fish... and having him fish in the same waters as himself?
That expands to... are Conservatives okay with trainning and educating people to take over THEIR jobs? Or do they want to teach poor people to compete for someone else's job.
Hail, Hail!!!
Taking away individuality/competition is not a good thing for society...
yes actually they are...as competition is what conservatives should be about. Fake conservatives may not be, but competition in the work place benefits companies as well as consumers
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Because in my field (private engineering) it is enforced that people continue to grow, its really the only way to succeed.
Do you think socialized health care will breed doc/practices to exceed if there is no encentive?
"With our thoughts we make the world"
first of all ... thanks for corroborating my point ... secondly, it's only a problem if your end goal is an educated society ... the US is essentially a conservative nation ... and all one has to do is see where it stands in the OECD PISA survey to see how well educated americans are ...
But in the real world, specifically, the U.S, for the better part, most people.... competition for their jobs... are okay with it as long as it's someone else's job. I don't think there are many people willing to train someone younger to take over their job... just as I don't think the fisherman will teach someone to fish, if it takes fish off his own table.
The only exception i can see are people who are poised to retire within the next few years.
Hail, Hail!!!
^ Damn straight.
That's a tough call.
Would you split a shift with someone so they won't be laid off? That is, would you cut your hours/pay in half for this guy?
It's not easy.
Hail, Hail!!!
hahaha ... america and socialized is like saying alaska and tropical ...
A lot of good points in here... I like this one especially.
I'd be happy to share my fish while the person learns to fish for himself, as long as they are learning...
At some point, people have to become responsible for themselves.
people do it everyday...people teach and train others every day...how can people become plumbers, electricians, engineers, psychologists...people are taught daily how to do a job...but some just don't want to participate in the learning and expect things to be okay for them...when they are not it is someone else's fault...some phantom "cause" that is deliberately keeping them down...when education and training is the key...and often times education in the private sector is actually much better than you get a state run institutions...universities are a great example of that...state run facilities are ok, but private schools are where the best education comes from...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Pretty darn close... Except the point about completely privatizing education- its just not feasable- and Im sure that underprivledged children would be left out on an even greater scale. ]
We already have private schools- that are light years ahead, and we have public, or government schools that like everything else the gov't runs, are expensive, bloated, and inefficient.
I think conservatives are more likely take the Fed out of anything they can, including education, and run it at the state level. (except the states are broke now).
This is definitely the best answer so far.
You are absolutely right...
I think I fucked up the quote button...
If you know this Blockhead person, he has made it quite clear in other threads that he's completely unwilling to contribute in any sort of universal "taking care of another person", whatsoever. He is only in it for himself and himself only. Forget anyone else. We know...
I love those ironic hipsters!