BIN LADEN IS DEAD

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    afarid wrote:
    Why would Pakistan Army give shelter to Al-Qaieda and Osama when it is them who have been bombing and killing innocent Pakistanis for over 20 years. More Pakistani soldiers have died fighting this war on terror. Pakistan has been the biggest victim of terrorism and more Pakistani Soldiers have died in this war of terror. NEVER FORGET THAT!!!!!!!
    So to blame to Pakistan is just naive and pretty stupid
    I assume this was directed at me ... please note that I mentioned "elements". I applaud and pray for the safety of those that risk their lives fighting the Taliban.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    osama-tweets-graph-640.jpg

    i know people still say twitter is useless blah blah blah but it's how i found out about all this last night...this graph is kinda cool
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Jason P wrote:
    MrAbraham wrote:
    The war in Afghanistan is more than just about 'Terror',

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world ... erals.html
    The supposed fortune in minerals is a pipe dream. No one is going to devote the resources necessary or invest the money that is required to tap into those resources, especially considering how volatile the area is (and will be for quite some time).

    Since when does a volatile area stop the US from conducting business with/in or around an area or place?
  • yahamita
    yahamita Posts: 1,514
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...
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  • capthowdy1027
    capthowdy1027 Posts: 3,270
    norm wrote:
    osama-tweets-graph-640.jpg

    i know people still say twitter is useless blah blah blah but it's how i found out about all this last night...this graph is kinda cool

    Very cool, thank you for posting that. I like the article that was on Mashable about it was well. Twitter is also how I found out about it last night.
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    Good think Osama and his cronies are going along with all this....
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,398
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    Good think Osama and his cronies are going along with all this....
    yeah really :lol:

    fake certificate? give me a break. :?

    if people do not believe that the birth certificate is real of course they are going to be skeptical of this...
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw



    sorry, i couldn't help it :D
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,398
    norm wrote:
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw



    sorry, i couldn't help it :D
    OMG that was funny, i've never seen that before :lol:
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    MrAbraham wrote:
    I don't think it's an impossible task. Not when we understand that just about everyone wants the same thing in the end. To be happy, free and live.
    American policy does not allow that to. The whole system is designed for America to be on top and everyone under it. How is that not an evil empire, Add to the constant expansions and base buildings.
    I was not speaking about individual behavior, rather government/system behavior. Again read the stories, look at the stats.
    American policy supports other corrupt governments and regimes.
    So let's see, we have a country (America), that invades other countries going against international law, a country that detains people without trial (Gitmo and other 'secret' prisons) , a country that supports other corrupt governments (Israel, Saudis)
    Sounds like an evil empire to me. ;)

    Well if not impossible, then why are those regions still in conflict? Obviously there are groups that cannot be happy and live free in the same place. All governments have some corruption-its just a question of degree.
    I dont agree with everything the US does and War is a dirty thing.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    Yes...that is what we, and common sense, are telling you. Please join us, we miss you.

    You're right though, we should watch a FUCKING MOVIE, to see how photo's can be faked. ET flying that bicycle past the moon. Fake. Aladdin on the magic carpet. Also fake. Believe it or not, the shark jumping in the original Batman movie. Yup. Fake.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxzJGgox_E
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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Get_Right wrote:

    Well if not impossible, then why are those regions still in conflict? Obviously there are groups that cannot be happy and live free in the same place. All governments have some corruption-its just a question of degree.
    I dont agree with everything the US does and War is a dirty thing.

    True groups within these regions do cause tons and tons of trouble. But the main reasons for the ongoing conflicts in many of these countries is simply due to American/British Policy.

    Even if we go back to Iran in the 50s, it was the USA that started with them. America took down a democratic government and put up a puppet one, they did this to take Irans oil. Years of the Shah is where Iranian anger towards America came from.

    Or let's look at Palestine, the Creation of Israel, a country 100% backed by the US, no matter what. That is another major major cause of conflict in that region. America leaving Afghanistan in a mess after the Soviet war is what helped breed Bin Laded and other groups.

    Americas military support of the corrupt Saudis and other Arab governments.

    You see, America is the major factor in all of this. We have ongoing conflict because we have ongoing corruption. Take away one, see what happens to the other.
  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
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  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,826
    MrAbraham wrote:
    True groups within these regions do cause tons and tons of trouble. But the main reasons for the ongoing conflicts in many of these countries is simply due to American/British Policy.

    Even if we go back to Iran in the 50s, it was the USA that started with them. America took down a democratic government and put up a puppet one, they did this to take Irans oil. Years of the Shah is where Iranian anger towards America came from.

    Or let's look at Palestine, the Creation of Israel, a country 100% backed by the US, no matter what. That is another major major cause of conflict in that region. America leaving Afghanistan in a mess after the Soviet war is what helped breed Bin Laded and other groups.

    Americas military support of the corrupt Saudis and other Arab governments.

    You see, America is the major factor in all of this. We have ongoing conflict because we have ongoing corruption. Take away one, see what happens to the other.

    :thumbup:
    Agreed.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    Completely agree. I've also been thinking this strategically took place to take our minds off of something else, too.
  • EmBleve
    EmBleve Posts: 3,019
    ledvedderman wrote:
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    Yes...that is what we, and common sense, are telling you. Please join us, we miss you.

    You're right though, we should watch a FUCKING MOVIE, to see how photo's can be faked. ET flying that bicycle past the moon. Fake. Aladdin on the magic carpet. Also fake. Believe it or not, the shark jumping in the original Batman movie. Yup. Fake.
    It is somewhat coincidental regardless of what anybody might say--especially if it (OBL) DID happen last week before the birth certificate thing came out--I'm not saying I necessarily believe this, so please don't start giving me sh*t about it---I'm just saying that I don't believe it to be out of reach, by any stretch, of things our government would resort to. And this was a very sarcastic response to what the guy was saying about Wag the Dog. No SH*T it's a MOVIE. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen in real life!! And it's not animation or science fiction. It's a legitimate point, not lost on alot of people.
  • EmBleve
    EmBleve Posts: 3,019
    Jeanwah wrote:
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    Completely agree. I've also been thinking this strategically took place to take our minds off of something else, too.
    I, too, agree that his post poses legitimate concerns (I was posting my comment simultaneously. :lol: )
  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    Jeanwah wrote:
    yahamita wrote:
    So, you are telling me, just that quick we kill him, fly him to Afghanistan in our coptors, and dump his ass at sea, and there is NO real proof? I call Bullshit on this. Why all of a sudden after the fake birth certificate came out this takes place? Just watch Wag The Dog...photos can be faked..lets see what they are going to release to the media..Just trying to figure out why now all of a sudden? What are they trying to take our minds off of? Libya, the fake certificate, radiation from Japan...

    Completely agree. I've also been thinking this strategically took place to take our minds off of something else, too.

    I don't see how this can be fake. He's either dead or they have captured him and are just saying he is dead otherwise Osama would just post a video of himself with todays newspaper. Maybe i'm missing something?

    I really just don't understand this birth certificate nonsense. Maybe because I am from a different political climate (in some ways anyway) but this kind of talk would have been dissmissed a long time ago in my country I feel. If any doubters could point me towards some sort of evidence I would appreciate it so I can understand more.
  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,826
    It has crossed my mind that there may be no photos of the body, because it may just look like a complete mess and totally unrecognizable-- a complete dismemberment. Once the guy was shot to death emotion may have taken over and the soldiers might have completely unloaded everything they had into him point blank-- after all, this wasn't just any member of Al Qaeda, this was THE guy and I'm sure at least 1 person in the room was willing to take it to that level. Photos of that would A) not really show / prove anything at all and B) photos of OBL looking FUBAR might really piss some people off and radicalize them further.

    I bet we'll never know.

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