btw- i was born and raised and live in ny and will die a ny'er
btw I was born and raised and live in the Peg and I will die in the Peg. (so what?)
You haven't heard that people from nyc have authority on how to respond to anything connected to 9/11?
:roll: :roll:
i was responding to someone a few pages back assuming that i'm from ny. sorry for answering the guys question. i didn't know i wasn't allowed to answer a question . :roll: :roll: :roll:
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I will not celebrate the death or harming of anyone but I can understand why many are jubilated or invigorated by these events. I think it is important to examine our own feelings and decide if we are joyous for feeling closure, relief, etc. or prideful vengeance. However, if it is the latter, we are no better than those that attempt to exact "vengeance" upon us, whether it is deserved or not.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
you judged me cause i didn't like a quote by MLK which turned out to be fake. am i not allowed to dislike a quote by someone or do i have to kiss their ass at every quote they've ever made just cause of who they are? my answer to where i was from wasn't meant for you, so i don't get really why you felt the need to mention your from the peg, but cool for you in being from the peg.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
you judged me cause i didn't like a quote by MLK which turned out to be fake. am i not allowed to dislike a quote by someone or do i have to kiss their ass at every quote they've ever made just cause of who they are? my answer to where i was from wasn't meant for you, so i don't get really why you felt the need to mention your from the peg, but cool for you in being from the peg.
I didn't judge you. I was shocked that someone could dislike it, and I called you out asking you why. you responded with what I felt was hostility and immaturity.
kissing someone's ass? I SAID REPEATEDLY IT DIDN'T MATTER WHO SAID IT (which you in turn tried to twist that and insult me for), it was the message that is important.
ok, from now on I'll only post when posted to. is that the new rule? gimme a break. :roll:
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I didn't judge you. I was shocked that someone could dislike it, and I called you out asking you why. you responded with what I felt was hostility and immaturity.
ok, from now on I'll only post when posted to. is that the new rule? gimme a break. :roll:
well i felt hostility when you attacked me for disliking a quote. i guess i should like every quote that everyone else does and be a sheep like the millions and millions of people who posted it.
i don't know what your problem is with me? did i make fun of you years ago or be a dick to you years ago? you seem to have an out for me today or something
it does make alot sense to answer a question that someone was asking where i'm from, doesn't it?
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
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Mets fan,
well man he did declare war on the US and he got a war and died, he asked for it in my opinion I mean what did he think was going to happen ? he went way beyond the crimes that merit a court hearing.
you're from NY were you there during the 9/11 attack ? if so you will get no argument from me at all just out of respect for your experience there.
BTW great quote,one of my favorite movies.
So if you look in the media or hear all the different pundits spinning their wheels, even on this forum, I find it rather ironic that as much as people "celebrate" this death, it doesn't unify us, in fact, people are more apt to reiterate their beliefs because of it. Reps and Conservs are patting Bush and others for their long steady efforts. Dems and Liberals are patting Obama on the back for getting it done. Yet very little talk about the future of our nation's safety and security. As a whole, this is just another partisan talking point. Just as easily as people have forgotten and not learned anything from 9-11 and what brought it to our door, is just as easily forgotten in as we fall back to our polarized and silly partisan ways to further devolve as a nation and society. But the money train keeps on rolling...we're just here to flip to bill.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
well i felt hostility when you attacked me for disliking a quote. i guess i should like every quote that everyone else does and be a sheep like the millions and millions of people who posted it.
i don't know what your problem is with me? did i make fun of you years ago or be a dick to you years ago? you seem to have an out for me today or something
it does make alot sense to answer a question that someone was asking where i'm from, doesn't it?
I have no issue with you. I didn't attack you. I asked you a simple question and you got all huffy and it went from there. let it go.
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well i felt hostility when you attacked me for disliking a quote. i guess i should like every quote that everyone else does and be a sheep like the millions and millions of people who posted it.
i don't know what your problem is with me? did i make fun of you years ago or be a dick to you years ago? you seem to have an out for me today or something
it does make alot sense to answer a question that someone was asking where i'm from, doesn't it?
I have no issue with you. I didn't attack you. I asked you a simple question and you got all huffy and it went from there. let it go.
i let it go the minute i made the post that i don't like the quote. your the one that seems to wants to keep it going saying my post was immature and hostile and everything else.
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So if you look in the media or hear all the different pundits spinning their wheels, even on this forum, I find it rather ironic that as much as people "celebrate" this death, it doesn't unify us, in fact, people are more apt to reiterate their beliefs because of it. Reps and Conservs are patting Bush and others for their long steady efforts. Dems and Liberals are patting Obama on the back for getting it done. Yet very little talk about the future of our nation's safety and security. As a whole, this is just another partisan talking point. Just as easily as people have forgotten and not learned anything from 9-11 and what brought it to our door, is just as easily forgotten in as we fall back to our polarized and silly partisan ways to further devolve as a nation and society. But the money train keeps on rolling...we're just here to flip to bill.
"it doesn't unify us"
How true, FiveB247x. Just reading through these posts... on a forum where a lot of people have much in common...really illustrates your point.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
So if you look in the media or hear all the different pundits spinning their wheels, even on this forum, I find it rather ironic that as much as people "celebrate" this death, it doesn't unify us, in fact, people are more apt to reiterate their beliefs because of it. Reps and Conservs are patting Bush and others for their long steady efforts. Dems and Liberals are patting Obama on the back for getting it done. Yet very little talk about the future of our nation's safety and security. As a whole, this is just another partisan talking point. Just as easily as people have forgotten and not learned anything from 9-11 and what brought it to our door, is just as easily forgotten in as we fall back to our polarized and silly partisan ways to further devolve as a nation and society. But the money train keeps on rolling...we're just here to flip to bill.
"it doesn't unify us"
How true, FiveB247x. Just reading through these posts... on a forum where a lot of people have much in common...really illustrates your point.
I agree with both of you, especially with respect to the fact that this once again gives people the opportunity to flex their partisan muscle (and I don't mean the brain). However, I think we should give it some time. It is fine to say what we think will or will not happen, but at least let some time pass. This might have secured the withdrawal or maybe at least hastened the process. This may have an impact, and I feel that Gates, Mullen, and Panetta are focused and will remain focused.
Just trying to be optimistic; I am not familiar with the role.
If this one death causes us to leave both nations in such disarray and leave with no real plan in place to survive on their own, well we all ought to be ashamed. And to put it bluntly, it would solidify and classify our reaction to 9-11 as nothing more than retaliation, not justice, freedom, spreading of democracy or similar. In fact, we could probably predict that both these nations will be breeding grounds for terrorism and anti-american thought and actions far more than before we arrived. As for spreading democracy, we can look at the other nations in the region who we didn't invade to see how that actually looks, hell we should probably take notes and hopes it spreads here.
So if you look in the media or hear all the different pundits spinning their wheels, even on this forum, I find it rather ironic that as much as people "celebrate" this death, it doesn't unify us, in fact, people are more apt to reiterate their beliefs because of it. Reps and Conservs are patting Bush and others for their long steady efforts. Dems and Liberals are patting Obama on the back for getting it done. Yet very little talk about the future of our nation's safety and security. As a whole, this is just another partisan talking point. Just as easily as people have forgotten and not learned anything from 9-11 and what brought it to our door, is just as easily forgotten in as we fall back to our polarized and silly partisan ways to further devolve as a nation and society. But the money train keeps on rolling...we're just here to flip to bill.
"it doesn't unify us"
How true, FiveB247x. Just reading through these posts... on a forum where a lot of people have much in common...really illustrates your point.
I agree with both of you, especially with respect to the fact that this once again gives people the opportunity to flex their partisan muscle (and I don't mean the brain). However, I think we should give it some time. It is fine to say what we think will or will not happen, but at least let some time pass. This might have secured the withdrawal or maybe at least hastened the process. This may have an impact, and I feel that Gates, Mullen, and Panetta are focused and will remain focused.
Just trying to be optimistic; I am not familiar with the role.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
The guy's name is "metsfan", probably from the NY area, and people are going get on him for being happy about Bin Laden being killed? Seriously? This has to be explained?
Why is it so hard for you people to understand that people like myself and metsfan are happy that the self confessed mass murderer/terrorist/scumbag is dead? Yeah there's still going to be terrorism, we get that. But there's one less "mastermind' behind it. This animal that hurt so many innocent lives won't kill anybody ever again. This is bad to you? This is a moral victory. A morale booster. And we'll celebrate. So if this annoys you, that sucks for you.
I love peace as much as the next guy, but seriously, all you people that are calling us out for being happy about it are hypocrites. I'd like to see you guys go hug a suicide bomber and see where that love gets you.
I found this quote on Time pretty cool: "Bin Laden had religious zeal that we don't have; America has a national spirit, and we don't have that either."
* A CHINESE ONLINE COMMENTATOR,
* writing on Weibo, China's most popular microblogging site, while watching Americans celebrate the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden
Maybe you're lacking national spirit? We're not.
where did I "get on him" for being happy about osama being killed? He gave a thumbs down and "makes me sick" smiley to a beautiful quote by MLK, and I was questioning how he could do that.
your rant was so over the top inflammatory and made so many assumptions based on one question I asked I had trouble comprehending it.
earlier on in the thread I said "I have no issue with how he was killed". read before you judge.
EDIT: I had typed out this big thing but whatever dude. Keep judging us Americans and correcting our comprehension. Trying to get you guys to understand how we feel about Bin Laden taking well- deserved bullets to the head is no longer worth the effort. Since you're all so superior I"m sure you'll figure it out eventually.
See what I did there? I put in bold every generalization that you took so personally. I understand. People are defensive since they're always right. But since I can't respond to all the ridiculous responses on here, I chose yours because you got on metsfan for not agreeing with a quote. That just seemed petty to me. And I didn't even say one thing about that bullshit MLK quote you chastised the guy about! See, I'm not such a bad guy!
EDIT 2: seems I did bring up the quote. oops.
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
-MLK
:roll: :thumbdown:
how can you POSSIBLY give an "eyeroll", "sick" and "thumbsdown" to this???? WTF???
"I didn't judge you. I was shocked that someone could dislike it, and I called you out asking you why. you responded with what I felt was hostility and immaturity."
"Possibly" is in all caps (which is shouting right?) Multiple question marks. " WTF" stands for "What the fuck"?
"I didn't judge you" followed immediately by a judgement: "I was shocked that someone could dislike it, and I called you out..."
I don't know, seems a little hostile to me. Paul you may need to switch to Decaf!
Hmmm...
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Yeah it doesn't who said it but the fact that it resonated with how people felt is what matters. That is why is was reposted all over the net.
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That wasn't Lincoln, that was Hamilton.
You haven't heard that people from nyc have authority on how to respond to anything connected to 9/11?
i was responding to someone a few pages back assuming that i'm from ny. sorry for answering the guys question. i didn't know i wasn't allowed to answer a question . :roll: :roll: :roll:
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"With our thoughts we make the world"
Let's all be better than them.
yet you get angry when I respond to one of your posts. :roll:
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I didn't judge you. I was shocked that someone could dislike it, and I called you out asking you why. you responded with what I felt was hostility and immaturity.
kissing someone's ass? I SAID REPEATEDLY IT DIDN'T MATTER WHO SAID IT (which you in turn tried to twist that and insult me for), it was the message that is important.
ok, from now on I'll only post when posted to. is that the new rule? gimme a break. :roll:
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
well i felt hostility when you attacked me for disliking a quote. i guess i should like every quote that everyone else does and be a sheep like the millions and millions of people who posted it.
i don't know what your problem is with me? did i make fun of you years ago or be a dick to you years ago? you seem to have an out for me today or something
it does make alot sense to answer a question that someone was asking where i'm from, doesn't it?
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
well man he did declare war on the US and he got a war and died, he asked for it in my opinion I mean what did he think was going to happen ? he went way beyond the crimes that merit a court hearing.
you're from NY were you there during the 9/11 attack ? if so you will get no argument from me at all just out of respect for your experience there.
BTW great quote,one of my favorite movies.
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I have no issue with you. I didn't attack you. I asked you a simple question and you got all huffy and it went from there. let it go.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
"it doesn't unify us"
How true, FiveB247x. Just reading through these posts... on a forum where a lot of people have much in common...really illustrates your point.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I agree with both of you, especially with respect to the fact that this once again gives people the opportunity to flex their partisan muscle (and I don't mean the brain). However, I think we should give it some time. It is fine to say what we think will or will not happen, but at least let some time pass. This might have secured the withdrawal or maybe at least hastened the process. This may have an impact, and I feel that Gates, Mullen, and Panetta are focused and will remain focused.
Just trying to be optimistic; I am not familiar with the role.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
EDIT: I had typed out this big thing but whatever dude. Keep judging us Americans and correcting our comprehension. Trying to get you guys to understand how we feel about Bin Laden taking well- deserved bullets to the head is no longer worth the effort. Since you're all so superior I"m sure you'll figure it out eventually.
See what I did there? I put in bold every generalization that you took so personally. I understand. People are defensive since they're always right. But since I can't respond to all the ridiculous responses on here, I chose yours because you got on metsfan for not agreeing with a quote. That just seemed petty to me. And I didn't even say one thing about that bullshit MLK quote you chastised the guy about! See, I'm not such a bad guy!
EDIT 2: seems I did bring up the quote. oops.
"Possibly" is in all caps (which is shouting right?) Multiple question marks. " WTF" stands for "What the fuck"?
"I didn't judge you" followed immediately by a judgement: "I was shocked that someone could dislike it, and I called you out..."
I don't know, seems a little hostile to me. Paul you may need to switch to Decaf!
Hmmm...
And apprehension of an unarmed suspect does not require lethal force.
Anyway, like I pointed out before, they admit they went there with the intention to kill him.
And extra-judicial assassination is illegal under international law.
The S.A.S would have these guys for breakfast.