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Drinking in Public Fine (Camden Show) $533 Unreal!!!

pjroo3pjroo3 Posts: 61
edited July 2008 in The Porch
Wow... Camden is now my least favorite place in the universe. Went to Camden 1 and was tailgating along with everyone else. I was on my second beer when a policewoman grabbed my beer and proceeded to write me a ticket (along with about 1000 other people). She checked a box that made it a mandatory court appearance. Well, today was the court date for everyone at the June 19 show. Tons of PJ fans at the court house. The fine for "Drinking in Public" was $78 which sucks, but no biggie. Well.... when they read us our fines today, they say that they have been amended and it has now been changed to "Inappropriate Behavior" which is $500 plus $33 court fees. I was shocked! Big bummer for anyone caught up in this crappy situation. I will never attend another show in that city! Well unless PJ is there and I will not enjoy myself in the parking lot.
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    PearlJamOnToastPearlJamOnToast Posts: 172
    pjroo3 wrote:
    Wow... Camden is now my least favorite place in the universe. Went to Camden 1 and was tailgating along with everyone else. I was on my second beer when a policewoman grabbed my beer and proceeded to write me a ticket (along with about 1000 other people). She checked a box that made it a mandatory court appearance. Well, today was the court date for everyone at the June 19 show. Tons of PJ fans at the court house. The fine for "Drinking in Public" was $78 which sucks, but no biggie. Well.... when they read us our fines today, they say that they have been amended and it has now been changed to "Inappropriate Behavior" which is $500 plus $33 court fees. I was shocked! Big bummer for anyone caught up in this crappy situation. I will never attend another show in that city! Well unless PJ is there and I will not enjoy myself in the parking lot.

    What a fuckin scam.......

    ETA...question was the beer in a plastic cup or were you advertising it?
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,721
    another slap in the face for the average law abiding citizen....
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    DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,742
    Geeze. What was their justification for changing the charge to inappropriate behavior?
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    ClaudCClaudC Posts: 2
    Yeah, they probably planned the whole thing so they could make some money
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    4Powers204Powers20 Posts: 1,219
    I had no issues drinking right out of the bottle in the lot at Camden. That sucks.


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    faithful227faithful227 Posts: 352
    What a bunch of shit. That's ridiculous. Way to take advantage of the situation. Bastards!!!
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    EquallyWorthlessEquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    can you say cash cow ??

    what a scam ! taht really sucks
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    Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    That's nuts. I've never seen anyone busted fro drinking in Camden over the 10 years I've been going to shows there.

    Were you in one of the main lots?
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    Tremendous UpsideTremendous Upside Posts: 118
    pdalowsky wrote:
    another slap in the face for the average law abiding citizen....

    except for the whole breaking the law part
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    KingmidgetKingmidget Posts: 628
    Tremendous Upside wrote:
    except for the whole breaking the law part

    Well...then they should have only paid $78..no????

    What a scam
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    meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,555
    You didn't plead guilty, did you?

    You can probably get that reduced.
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    DiRtYyELLoWoCeAnDiRtYyELLoWoCeAn Medford, Ma Posts: 1,605
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    disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 1,015
    pdalowsky wrote:
    another slap in the face for the average law abiding citizen....

    Law abiding? I wouldn't consider public intoxication as law abiding. I do disagree with the "inappropriate behavior" charge, but a law was broken.

    Hell, even drinking on your front porch is public intoxication if the public can see it. The law is messed up but it's still a law...
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    over bendsover bends Posts: 1,568
    With all the shit that goes on in Camden, good to see law enforcement doing their duty of raking money out of out of towners who are trying to get buzzed in a parking lot before they see a show.

    +1 for the police on this one.
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    Super_FanSuper_Fan Posts: 249
    You should have gotten an attorney but you never know when you will get a crazy Judge. Sounds like the judge was a renegade and F you all in the butt.
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    KingmidgetKingmidget Posts: 628
    over_bends wrote:
    With all the shit that goes on in Camden, good to see law enforcement doing their duty of raking money out of out of towners who are trying to get buzzed in a parking lot before they see a show.

    +1 for the police on this one.

    Does sound like a good use of their time considering what the COULD have been doing...geezz
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    Brain Of EBrain Of E Posts: 499
    sucks to be you
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    billyruffbillyruff Posts: 534
    Up here in Canada you can get arrested if you DON'T have a Beer Eh!!!
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    SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    pjroo3 wrote:
    Wow... Camden is now my least favorite place in the universe. Went to Camden 1 and was tailgating along with everyone else. I was on my second beer when a policewoman grabbed my beer and proceeded to write me a ticket (along with about 1000 other people). She checked a box that made it a mandatory court appearance. Well, today was the court date for everyone at the June 19 show. Tons of PJ fans at the court house. The fine for "Drinking in Public" was $78 which sucks, but no biggie. Well.... when they read us our fines today, they say that they have been amended and it has now been changed to "Inappropriate Behavior" which is $500 plus $33 court fees. I was shocked! Big bummer for anyone caught up in this crappy situation. I will never attend another show in that city! Well unless PJ is there and I will not enjoy myself in the parking lot.

    THAT is CRAZINESS!!!!
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    spatspat Posts: 644
    that is completely fucked up! especially when people were playing BEER PONG out in the open and the police were driving past them with no problems. I had no problems drinking right from the bottle either.

    Dumb question, but are you sure you were still inside the parking area? cuz as soon as you step out they stop you.
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    HailHailLeathermanHailHailLeatherman Posts: 126
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    They wouldn't even let me over the border into Canada because I have a DUI. I was on my way to Montreal once and when i got to the border, they asked my friends and I some questions like, "Have you ever been before a judge before, and for what". Anyway, i said yes and told them why, not thinking much of it because a DUI is only a misdemeanor. Anyway, they told me I couldn't cross the border. So my friends and I had to drive all the way back home. 4 hour trip. That sucked.

    Uh yeah, less talking you.

    I would have dropped you off at a cheap motel on the US side and gone in without you :-)
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    HailHailLeathermanHailHailLeatherman Posts: 126
    pjroo3 wrote:
    Wow... Camden is now my least favorite place in the universe. Went to Camden 1 and was tailgating along with everyone else. I was on my second beer when a policewoman grabbed my beer and proceeded to write me a ticket (along with about 1000 other people). She checked a box that made it a mandatory court appearance. Well, today was the court date for everyone at the June 19 show. Tons of PJ fans at the court house. The fine for "Drinking in Public" was $78 which sucks, but no biggie. Well.... when they read us our fines today, they say that they have been amended and it has now been changed to "Inappropriate Behavior" which is $500 plus $33 court fees. I was shocked! Big bummer for anyone caught up in this crappy situation. I will never attend another show in that city! Well unless PJ is there and I will not enjoy myself in the parking lot.

    Um, did you get a chance to speak for/defend yourself???
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    haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    i have a question...
    say they caught me (only 20 years old) drinking... and i'm not from your country...

    would i be like kicked outta your country for a felony or something? i've always wondered what will happen if i get caught...

    ...which also didnt stop me from taking a photo of me holding a beer (in a bottle, near the police) under the sign that says no drinking :rolleyes: :D
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    over bendsover bends Posts: 1,568
    doin'the-evolution wrote:
    i have a question...
    say they caught me (only 20 years old) drinking... and i'm not from your country...

    would i be like kicked outta your country for a felony or something? i've always wondered what will happen if i get caught...

    ...which also didnt stop me from taking a photo of me holding a beer (in a bottle, near the police) under the sign that says no drinking :rollseyes: :D

    I think you'd just be treated like any other American... so you'd just have to pay the time, or if it's jail-worthy, you'd have to serve time here. I'm not an expert though.
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    haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    over_bends wrote:
    I think you'd just be treated like any other American... so you'd just have to pay the time, or if it's jail-worthy, you'd have to serve time here. I'm not an expert though.
    but then would i be allowed into your country in the future? because then i'd have a criminal record...

    i was talking to a customer yesterday who said he knows people who had charges on their record for overnighter jail stays in the drunk tank, from 1979! and they still arent allowed in the US.... harsh!
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    restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,943
    THATS A FUCKIN OUTRAGE!!!! holy shit, youve got to appeal that or something. they are just totally taking advantage of this....unbelievable man. how many peoples tickets got "amended"?

    fucking government.
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    pjroo3pjroo3 Posts: 61
    It was not public intoxication and I didnt have the beer in a cup. It was my second beer. The people who were underage got the same fine as me. I am 31 years old. Just had my first child. Wife is staying at home to watch the baby. We are living on my paycheck and this kind of fine is pretty devastating. I hadn't had a drink since she got pregnant either... Been over a year.

    I was at the 8:30AM court time. They also have a 12:30PM which will probably have another 1000 people.

    I figure 1000 people x $500 = $500,000 (8:30 court time)
    1000 people x $500 = $500,000 (12:30 court time)

    Total $1,000,000 (1 Pearl Jam Show)

    Good luck to the people who went to night two.

    I'm thinking every show they are making a TON of money for the city. Where do they put all that money?
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    pjroo3pjroo3 Posts: 61
    OH yeah.. They put an "x" in the spot where it is a mandatory court appearance. Everyone had the "x" on their ticket. Then that way they can get the extra "court cost"
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    disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 1,015
    pjroo3 wrote:
    It was not public intoxication and I did have the beer in a cup.

    Those two statements contradict each other...
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