** TEN CLUB ANALOG AND DIGITAL MEMBERSHIPS **

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

like others have said... lower the digital to $15 cause you're not really getting anything... raise the analog to $30, even if that means not getting the mysterious shirt... if you wanna raise it another $5 in a few years then fine... just do it gradually

I agree with this...there needs to be a 3-tiered system...$15-20 for digital, $30 if you want the annual vinyl, $40 if you want the bootleg/T-shirt/possibly other stuff. I think that's more fair.

the mods generally don't answer questions posed in a thread, do they? my understanding is they (sometimes) answer if they are directly pm'd/emailed. plus it's the weekend.

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

let me get this straight... there has been 60+ pages of conversation between these 2 threads and 10C STILL hasn't weighed in on this?? not even to answer valid questions (which admittedly would only open the flood gates)

For all the bitching on here - none of us will know shit until this time next year. Perhaps TC will be much more organized as far as timing with issues, contests, and whatever else they have planned for us and they need some more money to get it off the ground. Analog is a risk you're taking this year - but really -it's a 25 dollar risk (I'm International). If you pay the hike like I am this year and we still get 1 newsletter while promised 2 and the record shows up whenever they feel like it, then I may switch to digital the next year.

I think it would be cool for them to do a lottery every 4 months for mystery grab bags and stuff like that for the analog members. I have faith the TC is going to expand to more fun things like this, and not just be pocketing the difference. I know deep/single show up late but when you contact the TC they are always accommodating and helpful, not to mention prompt on many other issues.

That being said - I still COULD be wrong, and if I am I will vote with my dollars the next time around and go digital - but I don't have any problem showing a little faith right now.

Paul David wrote:

the mods generally don't answer questions posed in a thread, do they? my understanding is they (sometimes) answer if they are directly pm'd/emailed. plus it's the weekend.

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

let me get this straight... there has been 60+ pages of conversation between these 2 threads and 10C STILL hasn't weighed in on this?? not even to answer valid questions (which admittedly would only open the flood gates)

oh thats right... the weekend... well they chose to announce this on a friday didnt they? this could've been done a month ago with the option to pay up through 2 or 3 years with no additional cost

some discussion is called for in this case... whether it fits the norm or not... either revise the original post to address some of the issues raised or take a day to actually reply to specific posts to show that they actually give a damn what we think about how things are run

i see us as shareholders in this "business" and they should treat us as such

gibbits wrote:

For all the bitching on here - none of us will know shit until this time next year. Perhaps TC will be much more organized as far as timing with issues, contests, and whatever else they have planned for us and they need some more money to get it off the ground. Analog is a risk you're taking this year - but really -it's a 25 dollar risk (I'm International). If you pay the hike like I am this year and we still get 1 newsletter while promised 2 and the record shows up whenever they feel like it, then I may switch to digital the next year.

I think it would be cool for them to do a lottery every 4 months for mystery grab bags and stuff like that for the analog members. I have faith the TC is going to expand to more fun things like this, and not just be pocketing the difference.

everything that comes with the analog should be laid out from the get go... people shouldn't be "punished" for not taking a chance on some intangible package... any grab bag type stuff should be open to ALL fan club members... we don't need to push this class system anymore than where its already headed... don't set up a scenario in which people are kicking themselves over $20... thats a hell of a way to get a lot of people harboring resentment

and quite frankly I'm sick of how everything is a mystery item these days... it tells me that 10C knows we would be content with anything we get as long as it says PJ on it... and sadly its true for many :?

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

don't set up a scenario in which people are kicking themselves over $20..

and quite frankly I'm sick of how everything is a mystery item these days... it tells me that 10C knows we would be content with anything we get as long as it says PJ on it... and sadly its true for many :?

If you're going to feel that boned over 20 dollars/its that big of a financial decision you really shouldn't be spending your money on a fan club.

It's easy to say everything for analog should be laid out from the get go - but maybe they don't know how many people will go for it? The more money that comes in the more they can do with it, that's obvious. They've laid out what they can guarantee. If a lot of people invest perhaps more things will be added - I would prefer them taking this route than making promises they can't keep.

Considering a grab bag/merch lottery is a physical item, I could see the argument for it not being included on a digital plan. Besides, the more appealing they make the analog the more people are going to bite for it man, this is a business.

gibbits wrote:

If you're going to feel that boned over 20 dollars/its that big of a financial decision you really shouldn't be spending your money on a fan club.

This seems to be the sentence of the day :roll: . That $20 people already pay on the membership could be their ONE luxury item of the year... so who the hell are you, or anyone else who thinks $20 is nothing, to tell them what they should be doing with their money? That is a personal decision and who knows what they may sacrifice to pay it. However, 10c have made a BUSINESS decision and that's a whole different thing!

Seriously... the amount of snobbery around! :? $20 is nothing? Really people??? Really? I suppose you simply throw away all your coins? :roll:

Heineken Helen wrote:

gibbits wrote:

If you're going to feel that boned over 20 dollars/its that big of a financial decision you really shouldn't be spending your money on a fan club.

This seems to be the sentence of the day :roll: . That $20 people already pay on the membership could be their ONE luxury item of the year... so who the hell are you, or anyone else who thinks $20 is nothing, to tell them what they should be doing with their money? That is a personal decision and who knows what they may sacrifice to pay it. However, 10c have made a BUSINESS decision and that's a whole different thing!

Seriously... the amount of snobbery around! :? $20 is nothing? Really people??? Really? I suppose you simply throw away all your coins? :roll:

My membership costs 25 dollars a year and it has to be converted to whatever inflated garbage the US currency is around so really I'm looking at 27-30 dollars usually. No one is taking away your $20 membership option. They still get their one luxury item. This is coming from someone who is freelance, there are sometimes months at a time where I am in the midst of projects and have no income whatsoever besides the little amount I've squirreled away. I am not even clearing 20k a year, but I can still say 20 dollars is a very insignificant amount.

MrSmith wrote:

send me forty dollars a year and i'll send you a cd of me singing Teenage Dream . what are you complaining about? its only pennies a day@!!!

you're happy because you profit greatly on that, as does 10c on this. i'm not paying $40 for a cd of you singing katy perry because i'm not going to waste my money on something i don't want, just like how i don't want a garbage t-shirt and a "free" bootleg. i want the vinyl because i collect the christmas singles so i'm forced to pay for that crap i don't want.

I don't really understand what all the fuss is about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but for the Digital Level instead of a magazine in the mail and a record you get a pdf and mp3. Myself personally, I don't really care about them anyway. Are you losing more at the Digital Level or am I missing something?

That said, I kinda like the idea of getting MORE in the Analog Level, such as the tee shirt and the free boot. Those 2 things are worth more than the extra $20 anyway.

I don't have time to read through all the pages of this thread to see what the objections are, but to be honest I'm just happy to have the 10C to help get tickets. I'm a bigger Bruce fan than PJ, and it really sucks that we don't have anything like 10C for The Boss.


Tier 1: "Analog" Level US $40 / INTL $50
* Full Website Access
* PJ Radio Access (Streaming only)
* Holiday Single MP3
* Deep Magazine PDF
* Members-only Contest Eligibility
* Members-only Merch Discount Events
* Access to Members-only Merch
* Access to Fan Club only Ticket Pre-sales
PLUS
* Free Bootleg Download - Coupon code included in the renewal confirmation email
* Limited Edition Vinyl 45 Holiday Single
* Limited Edition Hard Copy of Deep Magazine
* Limited Edition Ten Club T-Shirt - New Design Each Year sent at the Time of Renewal Purchase!

Tier 2: "Digital" Level US/INTL $20
* Full Website Access
* PJ Radio Access (Streaming only)
* Holiday Single MP3
* Deep Magazine PDF
* Members-only Contest Eligibility
* Members-only Merch Discount Events
* Access to Members-only Merch
* Access to Fan Club only Ticket pre-sales