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I've enjoyed backspacer loads - and tried to articulate why I like it on quite a few occasions. However, after spending 18 months reading this forum I think I would find it hard to tell you quite why the people that don't like it don't like it. I could however give you a detailed list of the exact reasons people don't like the Ten Club, right off the top of my head. Forum members seem very articulate on these points
i agree... don't know for sure what it is i dislike about backspacer... i just know it never clicked... its hard to articulate your grievances when your favorite band doesn't live up to your expectations... the guitars are too clean, the lyrics too "mature"/"cheesy" for me, the songs don't sound like a collective effort, too upbeat... i dunno
i think thats why its so easy to hate on the 10C... its NOT PJ... if PJ was more closely tied to the club you know there'd be a lot more people pussyfooting around their complaints... if people thought PJ was reading the forum they'd be a lot more careful about what they wrote
i don't know what that proves... i think 10C just has to revamp their image in some way... they keep going down the same BUSINESS BUSINESS BUSINESS route without reconsidering anything... bring in some new blood... do SOMETHING new
That's a very smart observation.
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If you want it bad enough just get the analog membership. then you won't have to worry about another upgrade for almost 2 years.
Nah, I'm bummed to miss out on the t-shirt(depending on what it turns out to be ) but other than that I'll get what I paid for - Deep & 7", so no worries really & great to get quick reply from them, especially at this time of holidays.
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EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
There is nothing wrong with the 10 club in my humble opinion. I get the rights to tickets, awesome community forums, top notch merch, and now they add a limited edition t-shirt and free concert download to my membership. Anyone who thought that the price would stay $20 forever are well.....nuts. They could have easily just charged more and not thrown anything else in. Obviously with small tours sometimes you get shut out of concerts because of supply/demand but that is why I put money away every week so if need be I can get tickets from stub hub if I get shut out.
If you want to complain about 11 cents($3.33 per month) per day to be part of this awesome fan club go ahead. I for one am proud to be part of it. Honestly if you can't afford $40 a year then you really shouldn't be spending $20 per year on this either because you probably have more important uses for that money.
You can complain all you want, you can even not renew, but they are never going to change it. Everyone thinks they just came up with this idea in a week and slapped it on us. I guarantee you this has been discussed for quite a while and I'm sure they weighed the positives and negatives.
Until my membership expires (September 2011) I will try out the Analog to see how the 10C will handle for one year. If I see is not worth it I will then become Digital
You can complain all you want, you can even not renew, but they are never going to change it. Everyone thinks they just came up with this idea in a week and slapped it on us. I guarantee you this has been discussed for quite a while and I'm sure they weighed the positives and negatives.
they kind of did "slap it on us" considering it went into effect the day they announced it without any public discussion/survey... could they not have announced this at the beginning of dec. and allowed regulars the chance to stock up or at least state their grievances?... they could still get new and less fanatic members with the new fee... i'm not talking seniority pricing... but give us the next year for the same low price... show us you can follow through on all thats promised and then you wouldn't have all the complaints next year
You can complain all you want, you can even not renew, but they are never going to change it. Everyone thinks they just came up with this idea in a week and slapped it on us. I guarantee you this has been discussed for quite a while and I'm sure they weighed the positives and negatives.
they kind of did "slap it on us" considering it went into effect the day they announced it without any public discussion/survey... could they not have announced this at the beginning of dec. and allowed regulars the chance to stock up or at least state their grievances?... they could still get new and less fanatic members with the new fee... i'm not talking seniority pricing... but give us the next year for the same low price... show us you can follow through on all thats promised and then you wouldn't have all the complaints next year
This is comical. People whining about an extra $1.66 cents per month, which equates to one cup of coffee. How dare they do that to us.
Until my membership expires (September 2011) I will try out the Analog to see how the 10C will handle. If I see is not worth it I will then become Digital
you're in luck... i gotta decide next week... the way i see it its $40 for a decent package (w/ a shirt i REALLY wanna see before i order) or $20 for nothing... i would like to take a principled stand and just pay the $20 but i can't justify paying that for nothing but ticket privileges... if i pay the $40 i look like a hypocrite for all the bitching i've done here... either option is more than i wanna spend right now but i'm not about to lose my number after 8 years
You can complain all you want, you can even not renew, but they are never going to change it. Everyone thinks they just came up with this idea in a week and slapped it on us. I guarantee you this has been discussed for quite a while and I'm sure they weighed the positives and negatives.
they kind of did "slap it on us" considering it went into effect the day they announced it without any public discussion/survey... could they not have announced this at the beginning of dec. and allowed regulars the chance to stock up or at least state their grievances?... they could still get new and less fanatic members with the new fee... i'm not talking seniority pricing... but give us the next year for the same low price... show us you can follow through on all thats promised and then you wouldn't have all the complaints next year
This is comical. People whining about an extra $1.66 cents a month, which equates to one cup of coffee. Hysterical.
kudos again mr. math for your number crunching skills
i should put you in charge of my student loans too... cause some of us just graduated with a lot of them
and before you question my priorities again... i never claimed to be a man of reasonable priorities... but PJ has been an important part of my life since i was 14... enough so that i can justify spending $20-40 i don't really have
Until my membership expires (September 2011) I will try out the Analog to see how the 10C will handle. If I see is not worth it I will then become Digital
you're in luck... i gotta decide next week... the way i see it its $40 for a decent package (w/ a shirt i REALLY wanna see before i order) or $20 for nothing... i would like to take a principled stand and just pay the $20 but i can't justify paying that for nothing but ticket privileges... if i pay the $40 i look like a hypocrite for all the bitching i've done here... either option is more than i wanna spend right now but i'm not about to lose my number after 8 years
decisions decisions
I think one thing about the price rise is we *should* expect some more from the 10C as a result. I always thought the existing price was a bit on the cheap side for what they were trying to do. When my membership comes up next I will go analog, but I'll be expecting more from them overall too.
Cancel my subscription to the Ressurection
Send my credentials to the house of detention
Until my membership expires (September 2011) I will try out the Analog to see how the 10C will handle. If I see is not worth it I will then become Digital
you're in luck... i gotta decide next week... the way i see it its $40 for a decent package (w/ a shirt i REALLY wanna see before i order) or $20 for nothing... i would like to take a principled stand and just pay the $20 but i can't justify paying that for nothing but ticket privileges... if i pay the $40 i look like a hypocrite for all the bitching i've done here... either option is more than i wanna spend right now but i'm not about to lose my number after 8 years
decisions decisions
I think one thing about the price rise is we *should* expect some more from the 10C as a result. I always thought the existing price was a bit on the cheap side for what they were trying to do. When my membership comes up next I will go analog, but I'll be expecting more from them overall too.
yah with it being the anniversary year i think we could expect more in terms of merch and touring... $40 could be worth it... maybe one year of analog then digital next year... then Armageddon dec 2012 solves the problem
Until my membership expires (September 2011) I will try out the Analog to see how the 10C will handle. If I see is not worth it I will then become Digital
you're in luck... i gotta decide next week... the way i see it its $40 for a decent package (w/ a shirt i REALLY wanna see before i order) or $20 for nothing... i would like to take a principled stand and just pay the $20 but i can't justify paying that for nothing but ticket privileges... if i pay the $40 i look like a hypocrite for all the bitching i've done here... either option is more than i wanna spend right now but i'm not about to lose my number after 8 years
decisions decisions
You have the right to complain...but who cares about you being a hypocrite...try out if you can the analog membership if you see is not worth it then become digital. I don't think we will loose our membership numbers if we change from Analog to digital...
You kids. Why, in my day, a 10c membership cost a nickel. Now go outside and rake the leaves off my front yard!
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
Until my membership expires (September 2011) I will try out the Analog to see how the 10C will handle. If I see is not worth it I will then become Digital
you're in luck... i gotta decide next week... the way i see it its $40 for a decent package (w/ a shirt i REALLY wanna see before i order) or $20 for nothing... i would like to take a principled stand and just pay the $20 but i can't justify paying that for nothing but ticket privileges... if i pay the $40 i look like a hypocrite for all the bitching i've done here... either option is more than i wanna spend right now but i'm not about to lose my number after 8 years
decisions decisions
You have the right to complain...but who cares about you being a hypocrite...try out if you can the analog membership if you see is not worth it then become digital. I don't think we will loose our membership numbers if we change from Analog to digital...
i am a man of great principle
my final decision shall remain a secret to maintain my carefully crafted forum persona... but thank you for your advice
Until my membership expires (September 2011) I will try out the Analog to see how the 10C will handle. If I see is not worth it I will then become Digital
you're in luck... i gotta decide next week... the way i see it its $40 for a decent package (w/ a shirt i REALLY wanna see before i order) or $20 for nothing... i would like to take a principled stand and just pay the $20 but i can't justify paying that for nothing but ticket privileges... if i pay the $40 i look like a hypocrite for all the bitching i've done here... either option is more than i wanna spend right now but i'm not about to lose my number after 8 years
decisions decisions
You have the right to complain...but who cares about you being a hypocrite...try out if you can the analog membership if you see is not worth it then become digital. I don't think we will loose our membership numbers if we change from Analog to digital...
your seniority is only lost if you don't renew at all. It doesn't matter which plan you pick, your member number stays the same.
If you ask me they shouldnt offer the digital membership. Make everyone have the same $40 membership.
Personally all I care about is ticket priority and the vinyl. Ticket priority alone is worth $40.
I guarantee when there is the presale for the next tour, thread after thread will be "I pay forty bucks & I cant even get tickets, this is bullshit".
tenclub is setting themselves up for a shit storm.
They would whine about it with a $20 membership. So whats the difference? They have never once anywhere guaranteed members tickets. If there are more shows your chances are greater. If it's not good luck getting through.
If you ask me they shouldnt offer the digital membership. Make everyone have the same $40 membership.
Personally all I care about is ticket priority and the vinyl. Ticket priority alone is worth $40.
I guarantee when there is the presale for the next tour, thread after thread will be "I pay forty bucks & I cant even get tickets, this is bullshit".
tenclub is setting themselves up for a shit storm.
They would whine about it with a $20 membership. So whats the difference? They have never once anywhere guaranteed members tickets. If there are more shows your chances are greater. If it's not good luck getting through.
They would whine about it with a $20 membership...
I really like it that there are people on this board with different opinion. It's a good and normal thing to have an open discussion. Most fans here are able to do so.
What is sad is people like you, who are intollerant and closed-minded.
So not to agree with you equals 'whining'? Interesting.
Labeling other fans as 'whiners' is the poorest way of arguing.
I guess there are good arguments on both sides when it comes to the new Tenclub membership plan.
I find it to be a good idea to offer different packages, but these packeges are poorly elaborated in my eyes.
They never officially guaranteed tickets, but through the 2003 tour if you requested tickets you were not turned down.
That's not actually true. You had to pick a 2nd option in case your first pick got sold out. They also had much larger tours and far less fan club members back then. In fact since the 1998 tour the fan club has more than doubled because of the ticket process. So smaller tours and way more members = makes it harder to get tickets. If you really want to go to the show there are plenty of ways to get in without 10 club tickets. Just start a PJ tour fund just in case. That's what my wife and I do.
They would whine about it with a $20 membership...
I really like it that there are people on this board with different opinion. It's a good and normal thing to have an open discussion. Most fans here are able to do so.
What is sad is people like you, who are intollerant and closed-minded.
So not to agree with you equals 'whining'? Interesting.
Labeling other fans as 'whiners' is the poorest way of arguing.
I guess there are good arguments on both sides when it comes to the new Tenclub membership plan.
I find it to be a good idea to offer different packages, but these packeges are poorly elaborated in my eyes.
You only feel that way because the $20 membership doesn't get the record anymore(although you still get the mp3 version). Other than that reason there is no difference in the digital membership.
You only feel that way because the $20 membership doesn't get the record anymore. Other than that reason there is no difference in the digital membership.
For most members, there are two reasons for being in the fanclub:
One is the x-mas single (on VINYL), the other is the ticket opportunity.
For a lot of non-US fans, it is the X-mas Single that is important, since we don't have a problem getting tickets here (if they even come to our area).
Shows nearly never sell out immediately here, and because of general admission shows, Tickets are all the same.
So for these fans (and this is not a smal number), the new membership system sucks.
They have to pay $50 for the Single. Because let's face it, the Deep magazin isn't worth the paper it is written on.
When considering these points, I think there is a basis for a discussion about the new model.
You only feel that way because the $20 membership doesn't get the record anymore. Other than that reason there is no difference in the digital membership.
For most members, there are two reasons for being in the fanclub:
One is the x-mas single (on VINYL), the other is the ticket opportunity.
For a lot of non-US fans, it is the X-mas Single that is important, since we don't have a problem getting tickets here (if they even come to our area).
Shows nearly never sell out immediately here, and because of general admission shows, Tickets are all the same.
So for these fans (and this is not a smal number), the new membership system sucks.
They have to pay $50 for the Single. Because let's face it, the Deep magazin isn't worth the paper it is written on.
When considering these points, I think there is a basis for a discussion about the new model.
They still get the single for $20, just as an .mp3. If the vinyl version is so important than put $1.67 in a jar each month and save up the $20 difference. Or get the Analog version and sell the t-shirt on ebay to make up the difference.
You only feel that way because the $20 membership doesn't get the record anymore. Other than that reason there is no difference in the digital membership.
For most members, there are two reasons for being in the fanclub:
One is the x-mas single (on VINYL), the other is the ticket opportunity.
For a lot of non-US fans, it is the X-mas Single that is important, since we don't have a problem getting tickets here (if they even come to our area).
Shows nearly never sell out immediately here, and because of general admission shows, Tickets are all the same.
So for these fans (and this is not a smal number), the new membership system sucks.
They have to pay $50 for the Single. Because let's face it, the Deep magazin isn't worth the paper it is written on.
When considering these points, I think there is a basis for a discussion about the new model.
They still get the single for $20, just as an .mp3. If the vinyl version is so important than put $1.67 in a jar each month and save up the $20 difference. Or get the Analog version and sell the t-shirt on ebay to make up the difference.
Red, the way you said that it sounds just so affordable and common sensical. Could our friends be reacting to change? Something most humans don't like? Hmmm. I don't know.
Red, the way you said that it sounds just so affordable and common sensical. Could our friends be reacting to change? Something most humans don't like? Hmmm. I don't know.
There will always be small sects of people who don't like change, even if it's for the better.
They still get the single for $20, just as an .mp3.
With the X-mas Single, it is not about the music for most fans in the first place. Because let's face it, the stuff released there isn't that great most of the time (although there were some highlights like 'Strangest Tribe' and some others).
It is about the vinyl, it is about collecting.
The point with collecting $1.67 a month is so stupid, sorry.
What do you say when Pearl jam sells their next album exclusively for $50?
Would you also say 'just save some money every month'?
It isn't about not being able to get the money. It is about principles. And it is about a bad deal for a lot of fans.
When you didn't get these points yet from this really long discussion, you didn't understand what most people criticising the system wanted to express.
They still get the single for $20, just as an .mp3.
With the X-mas Single, it is not about the music for most fans in the first place. Because let's face it, the stuff released there isn't that great most of the time (although there were some highlights like 'Strangest Tribe' and some others).
It is about the vinyl, it is about collecting.
The point with collecting $1.67 a month is so stupid, sorry.
What do you say when Pearl jam sells their next album exclusively for $50?
Would you also say 'just save some money every month'?
It isn't about not being able to get the money. It is about principles. And it is about a bad deal for a lot of fans.
When you didn't get these points yet from this really long discussion, you didn't understand what most people criticising the system wanted to express.
If you want vinyl and a hard copy of Deep, those things cost more money now. Pearl Jam aren't operating in 1991 any longer. My buddy and I are trying to get some vinyl pressed for our own record, and to get fifty 45' singles printed was near $700. I can't imagine the costs of printing up the fanclub singles.
im a member of 10 cos i support the band i love
im a member of 10c cos my pj friends are here and i can communicate with them
im a member of 10c cos its about music that i love
im member of 10c cos i get 10c tickets and i like early entrance in our area
in member of 10c cos give me the chance to buy merch-vinyl -bootlegs etc,
i would be a member of 10c even if i didnt get anything of the previous,cos no problem to honor the best band ever that i love with an annoual membership that some cash.
im proud member of pearl jam fan club and i can afford to do it.
the people running that fan club decide to change the membership way...they give me options..stay as you are,leave,go up level of membership..i choose..im happy,waiting for 2011 tour activity..
the last 4 days i check around i didnt see any gun point at me and ready to shoot if im not choose the new mewmbership
sometimes in life its good to give before you start asking what you get...its fuckin called LOVE
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
My buddy and I are trying to get some vinyl pressed for our own record, and to get fifty 45' singles printed was near $700. I can't imagine the costs of printing up the fanclub singles.
I don't know the costs either.
But with Pearl Jam being a major customer, and ordering thousands of singles each year, the price won't be anywhere near that what you have to pay for sure.
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That's a very smart observation.
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EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
If you want to complain about 11 cents($3.33 per month) per day to be part of this awesome fan club go ahead. I for one am proud to be part of it. Honestly if you can't afford $40 a year then you really shouldn't be spending $20 per year on this either because you probably have more important uses for that money.
You can complain all you want, you can even not renew, but they are never going to change it. Everyone thinks they just came up with this idea in a week and slapped it on us. I guarantee you this has been discussed for quite a while and I'm sure they weighed the positives and negatives.
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This is comical. People whining about an extra $1.66 cents per month, which equates to one cup of coffee. How dare they do that to us.
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decisions decisions
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i should put you in charge of my student loans too... cause some of us just graduated with a lot of them
and before you question my priorities again... i never claimed to be a man of reasonable priorities... but PJ has been an important part of my life since i was 14... enough so that i can justify spending $20-40 i don't really have
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I think one thing about the price rise is we *should* expect some more from the 10C as a result. I always thought the existing price was a bit on the cheap side for what they were trying to do. When my membership comes up next I will go analog, but I'll be expecting more from them overall too.
Send my credentials to the house of detention
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You have the right to complain...but who cares about you being a hypocrite...try out if you can the analog membership if you see is not worth it then become digital. I don't think we will loose our membership numbers if we change from Analog to digital...
my final decision shall remain a secret to maintain my carefully crafted forum persona... but thank you for your advice
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your seniority is only lost if you don't renew at all. It doesn't matter which plan you pick, your member number stays the same.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
Personally all I care about is ticket priority and the vinyl. Ticket priority alone is worth $40.
I guarantee when there is the presale for the next tour, thread after thread will be "I pay forty bucks & I cant even get tickets, this is bullshit".
tenclub is setting themselves up for a shit storm.
That's what I thought.
They would whine about it with a $20 membership. So whats the difference? They have never once anywhere guaranteed members tickets. If there are more shows your chances are greater. If it's not good luck getting through.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
What is sad is people like you, who are intollerant and closed-minded.
So not to agree with you equals 'whining'? Interesting.
Labeling other fans as 'whiners' is the poorest way of arguing.
I guess there are good arguments on both sides when it comes to the new Tenclub membership plan.
I find it to be a good idea to offer different packages, but these packeges are poorly elaborated in my eyes.
That's not actually true. You had to pick a 2nd option in case your first pick got sold out. They also had much larger tours and far less fan club members back then. In fact since the 1998 tour the fan club has more than doubled because of the ticket process. So smaller tours and way more members = makes it harder to get tickets. If you really want to go to the show there are plenty of ways to get in without 10 club tickets. Just start a PJ tour fund just in case. That's what my wife and I do.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
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You only feel that way because the $20 membership doesn't get the record anymore(although you still get the mp3 version). Other than that reason there is no difference in the digital membership.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
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One is the x-mas single (on VINYL), the other is the ticket opportunity.
For a lot of non-US fans, it is the X-mas Single that is important, since we don't have a problem getting tickets here (if they even come to our area).
Shows nearly never sell out immediately here, and because of general admission shows, Tickets are all the same.
So for these fans (and this is not a smal number), the new membership system sucks.
They have to pay $50 for the Single. Because let's face it, the Deep magazin isn't worth the paper it is written on.
When considering these points, I think there is a basis for a discussion about the new model.
They still get the single for $20, just as an .mp3. If the vinyl version is so important than put $1.67 in a jar each month and save up the $20 difference. Or get the Analog version and sell the t-shirt on ebay to make up the difference.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
There will always be small sects of people who don't like change, even if it's for the better.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
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It is about the vinyl, it is about collecting.
The point with collecting $1.67 a month is so stupid, sorry.
What do you say when Pearl jam sells their next album exclusively for $50?
Would you also say 'just save some money every month'?
It isn't about not being able to get the money. It is about principles. And it is about a bad deal for a lot of fans.
When you didn't get these points yet from this really long discussion, you didn't understand what most people criticising the system wanted to express.
If you want vinyl and a hard copy of Deep, those things cost more money now. Pearl Jam aren't operating in 1991 any longer. My buddy and I are trying to get some vinyl pressed for our own record, and to get fifty 45' singles printed was near $700. I can't imagine the costs of printing up the fanclub singles.
im a member of 10c cos my pj friends are here and i can communicate with them
im a member of 10c cos its about music that i love
im member of 10c cos i get 10c tickets and i like early entrance in our area
in member of 10c cos give me the chance to buy merch-vinyl -bootlegs etc,
i would be a member of 10c even if i didnt get anything of the previous,cos no problem to honor the best band ever that i love with an annoual membership that some cash.
im proud member of pearl jam fan club and i can afford to do it.
the people running that fan club decide to change the membership way...they give me options..stay as you are,leave,go up level of membership..i choose..im happy,waiting for 2011 tour activity..
the last 4 days i check around i didnt see any gun point at me and ready to shoot if im not choose the new mewmbership
sometimes in life its good to give before you start asking what you get...its fuckin called LOVE
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
But with Pearl Jam being a major customer, and ordering thousands of singles each year, the price won't be anywhere near that what you have to pay for sure.