I"m so glad barack hussien obama won...

Dark Grin wrote:

This doesn't feel like a Pearl Jam discussion board anymore.

Where's the love for the band? I'm not talking about blind obedience, just respect for who they are. Their ideology is a major part of their identity, even a driving force behind their creativity. I would have lost interest in them years ago if this part of the band was absent.

It sometimes feels like it's not a discussion board, because whenever you don't go down on one knee to agree with every word about the band you get slammed.
I don't love PJ because Eddie wrote WWS or because he scrawled 'pro-choice' on his arm, or because he hates G,W,B. They are all personal opinions of his and I feel closed off to them because I have my own thoughts and opinions, they may be similar or they may not.
I fell in love with this band because Ed wrote Black and Alive, and Courdoroy, and Long Road and even Come Back....
I love his writing about his experiences as a human, as a person with a heart, rather than him telling me who he votes for or who I should vote for....:o

I appreciate the political songs but unless they are good songs it doesn't matter. No More KILLED the atmosphere at both shows I saw this summer.

Sonic19 wrote:

Ripping on WWS for being a shitty song and leaving out Bushleaguer...ahahahahaha.

I felt Bushleaguer could have been an amazing song . . . if it would not have been about Bush in spoken word format. McCready tears this song up on the live versions. It is my opinion that Ed's need to make a political statement pretty much ruined this song by making it very polarizing (if you don't believe me, ask those in attendance at the Uniondale 2003 show)

WWS is a pretty good song. I kind of dig the fact that is very much a pop song with intense lyrics.

Eddie wasn't exactly preaching to the choir in 2003.

The last half of the Riot Act tour was really intense; and I think the Political talk actually gave an edge to some of the shows like Uniondale and Denver that otherwise woudn't have been there.

Now both shows are legendary.

The country was very divided on Bush and the Iraq war in 2003.

It took alot of balls for Eddie to come out night after night and face the crowd and talk about how Bush was fucking up the country and how the Iraq War was bullshit.

And guess what?...
Eddie was right!!

I guess the truth hurts for some people...

And it isn't like the band all of a sudden turned political overnight. Right Wing fans forget that Eddie bitched about Clinton all throughout the 1990's as well.

I don't remember there being such an uproar about that.

Perhaps these people that bitch about the politics at shows only do so when it's their party or their guy that's being attacked.

In my opinion Bush was an asshole and I'm glad Eddie took the piss out of him everynight.

Eddie was just expressing the same anger that all of us were feeling with this country.

Eddie has every right to speak his mind. I'd do the same thing if I had the mic.

I agree.....no more is a bad bad song. I don't really care for politics, as a matter of fact I think there is way too much political bullshit all over the place. I heard the other the day that between the 2 cadidates they spent around 1 billion dollars on campaigning, 600M for Obama, 400M for McCain, that is absolutely ridiculous. TV ads for elections should be made illegal, the only things that should be allowed on TV are debates, and the candidates should set-up websites for people to look at if they want to learn more about their views. The last few campaigns and elections have been tiring, boring, and sometimes madenning with the amount of crap that everyone had to put up with. Especially when most things said on the campaign trail will most likely never happen, or if they do come to fruition will be completey different from the original plan. People don't realize that no matter what happens someone will always attack the reaction a person has. If Bush had decided not to attack Afghanistan after 9/11, people would have been furious because he didn't defend our country. If Bush had not gone into Iraq, and Hussein had attacked us as the Taliban did, people would have been furious about that. It just seems that no matter what happens there is always someone poised to oppose. Maybe Bush was being a warmonger, or maybe he was being passionate about the safety of this country and its citizens, who knows. All I know is we have a new person in the White House that will make some decisions and some changes that one group or another will inevitably disagree with. Nothing is ever going to be exactly as everyone wants it, it's just impossible, so all the political talk and campaigning and money and time spent on these things seems to be a little excessive. The band will always have something to say, even though I don't want to hear it either, but it's just something that people have the accept, and if you want to enjoy the 2 hours and 15 minutes of a show that aren't political, you may have to put up with the 15 mintues of a show that are political.

vierello wrote:

I agree.....no more is a bad bad song. I don't really care for politics, as a matter of fact I think there is way too much political bullshit all over the place. I heard the other the day that between the 2 cadidates they spent around 1 billion dollars on campaigning, 600M for Obama, 400M for McCain, that is absolutely ridiculous. TV ads for elections should be made illegal, the only things that should be allowed on TV are debates, and the candidates should set-up websites for people to look at if they want to learn more about their views. The last few campaigns and elections have been tiring, boring, and sometimes madenning with the amount of crap that everyone had to put up with. Especially when most things said on the campaign trail will most likely never happen, or if they do come to fruition will be completey different from the original plan. People don't realize that no matter what happens someone will always attack the reaction a person has. If Bush had decided not to attack Afghanistan after 9/11, people would have been furious because he didn't defend our country. If Bush had not gone into Iraq, and Hussein had attacked us as the Taliban did, people would have been furious about that. It just seems that no matter what happens there is always someone poised to oppose. Maybe Bush was being a warmonger, or maybe he was being passionate about the safety of this country and its citizens, who knows. All I know is we have a new person in the White House that will make some decisions and some changes that one group or another will inevitably disagree with. Nothing is ever going to be exactly as everyone wants it, it's just impossible, so all the political talk and campaigning and money and time spent on these things seems to be a little excessive. The band will always have something to say, even though I don't want to hear it either, but it's just something that people have the accept, and if you want to enjoy the 2 hours and 15 minutes of a show that aren't political, you may have to put up with the 15 mintues of a show that are political.

YOu should care about politics and you should care what Bush's motivations were prior to going to WAR!

i hate coming on to threads this late i really don't have to much to add except that i HOPE ED NEVER STOPS SINGING POLITICALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL SONGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
there how do you like it DOUCHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
if people didn't like NO MORE why is it that 19,000 of us sang along with him at MSG why because we do care .assssssssssssssssssssssholessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

Crazy Breed wrote:

X 10 baby!!!!!!!!

he he i knew i could count on you ..

Crazy Breed wrote:

I got your back dog!!

like wise here ...