Ed on religion

The basic thoughts behind all religions are the same. They want to show people a way to live (be nice, do not kill people etc.) and give them hope. Of course there are idiots everywhere that don’t understand that, and think their religion is the only truth. This is the problem. People thinking they’re right and everybody else is wrong. And that’s what causes wars etc. and makes people to haters and killers. I never understood, how one can be so sure that their religion is the right one? Millions of people are Buddhists, millions are Christians etc. how can you be so sure about your religion and think all these others are idiots?

I would consider myself a “religious” person, but I don’t believe in any institution.
But religion gives certain people hope, and for that it’s good. If they have a shitty life, they want the hope that at least their afterlife will be nice. they need something to hold on to.

When we’re dead, we will know if there’s something or not. If there’s something, fine. If not, we wouldn’t know, so it’s fine as well.

EagleEar wrote:

Actually, you're born one. Every animal (including humans) is born a aetheist. Unfortunately, most humans are polluted by religion, a product of the human condition.

If you put 1000 infant humans on an island with absolutely NO contact with the outside world, I would bet my life savings that none would EVER come Christians. None.

I respect this answer. Thank you.

Just don't dig the people on here that are full of shit.

EagleEar wrote:

Actually, you're born one. Every animal (including humans) is born a aetheist. Unfortunately, most humans are polluted by religion, a product of the human condition.

If you put 1000 infant humans on an island with absolutely NO contact with the outside world, I would bet my life savings that none would EVER come Christians. None.

you're right, but they probably would create their own religion over the course of time.

rhinomagic wrote:

I liked this thread better when it was about Ed's ego instead of our own.

It had the potential to deliver a certain analytical view of Ed's preaching and the reactions of those present when he has the microphone. To introduce faith, atheism, and the causes of good and evil in society really lost the original point of this discussion.

Nice try, otis. Maybe next time.

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As I said before, the way this thread has turned is so much more boring and pointless than the OP's orginal though-provoking discussion topic. Okay, everyone, here's a line. Everyone who thinks there's a God, get on this side. Now everyone else, on the other. And, we're done. There comes a point where there's a stalemate, and we've reached it. Neither of you are enlightening anyone. Some of you cite the Bible, which has been translated and edited so many times it's ridiculous. Others are citing Christopher Hitchens, who still thinks the fucking war in Iraq was a good idea. I almost wish there was some way you could ALL be wrong.

Sorry agnostics, forgot about you. You guys can stand on the line.

As for the original intent of this discussion, I do think it's funny how people throw around the "blindly following like sheep" argument whenever someone disagrees with them, especially with things like religion. I've also run into the same thing when dealing with the goofy 9/11 conspiracy theorists (for the love of God - or nothing, if that's your thing - don't turn this into THAT fucking discussion! I'm done with it!) They always say we're just believing what we've been told blindly simply because they don't believe it. By that rationale, the only truths are completely original ones, because any others would be "blindly" following the beliefs of others. Long story short, no one has cornered the market on open-mindedness. I certainly think some of the dumbasses on this board have provent that.

nathanastin wrote:

Nice thoughts; I usually think of Pearl Jam fans as the most educated and best thinking of the bunch, but there are a lot of jackholes.

:rolleyes: gee, thanks for the kind words buddy. not sure if you know this or not but most of us dumbfucks became fans through their music, not their political or religious views. is a college degree required to listen to PJ ???

nathanastin wrote:

I love Ed and all, but I find him to be very closed minded. Actually, most so-called liberal and progressive thinkers are the most close-minded. If you don't agree with them, then keep your mouth shut. I'll take a religious person anyday.

good luck living in Vermont! :cool:

EvilRabbit wrote:

Why laughable?

The eye first appeared as a light sensitive pad atop a primitive creature's head, enabling it to tell whether it was nighttime or daytime (to avoid predators). Those creatures who didn't develop this "eye" were eaten, hence natural selection. Over the course of evolution, this eye pad recessed and became concave, enabling the creature to determine the angle of the sunlight and tell the time. Protective layers then grew and evolved to protect the eye and it eventually became the shape of a ball.

If you're buddy upstairs created the eyeball, why is it upside down? Was he drunk when he "designed it"?

Here endeth the science lesson.

As a member of the "uneducated" Jammers AKA non-religious fools, I have one question for you!
Where you get this info? I liked to read it.

EvilRabbit wrote:

Appreciate it, dude.

Funny how none of the religious folks here have addressed my explanation for the eyeball or how the Good Samaritan had morals before Christianity existed. They like to dodge this stuff, it's how they reconcile all the fucked-up nonsense in the Bible.

hehe