you can scratch and crawl your way out of 1-3...even 2-4 in this conference. but now the cowboys are the depths of hell. romo out for at least a month. i'd be lying if i said i was not enjoying this though.
do you know if this monstrous stadium is sold out for the year? i can't wait to see tens of thousands of empty seats in that place
you can scratch and crawl your way out of 1-3...even 2-4 in this conference. but now the cowboys are the depths of hell. romo out for at least a month. i'd be lying if i said i was not enjoying this though.
do you know if this monstrous stadium is sold out for the year? i can't wait to see tens of thousands of empty seats in that place
this is the cowboys where talking about here. the same team that has a piss poor coach/defensive coordinator and piss poor offensive coordinator and lack of leadership. no way in hell they were coming back from 1-3.
if it's not sold out for the rest of the season, i'm sure season tickets will be unloaded by the thousands after tonight.
this team is so pathetic they can't even hold onto a gift wrapped fumble
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
i'd fucking kill to be at a dallas cowboys game and these asshole fans chant lets go rangers
i just mentioned that in the phils thread. some people think that kind of thing only happens in philly
haha i just saw that
to me that's just fraudism at it's finest and i know that's funny cause i'm saying it but CMON MAN. if your a true cowboys fan you'd leave the stadium with your head held down and not wait around by the mnf table just to chant lets go rangers. that almost makes me wanna root for the sf giants.
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i'd fucking kill to be at a dallas cowboys game and these asshole fans chant lets go rangers
i just mentioned that in the phils thread. some people think that kind of thing only happens in philly
haha i just saw that
to me that's just fraudism at it's finest and i know that's funny cause i'm saying it but CMON MAN. if your a true cowboys fan you'd leave the stadium with your head held down and not wait around by the mnf table just to chant lets go rangers. that almost makes me wanna root for the sf giants.
They were doing that last night, that's like a jinx. Don't they know that....shame.....shame.....shame.
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I guess the Giants are gonna take the division by the looks of it. We still have a very slim chance, but that involves winning games. And I don't think we can do that without Romo. But, we'll see....Anything can happen, that's for sure. But it's not looking so good.
Dez Bryant is still gonna be fun to watch this season...
yes kinta played badly but the guy has not played in over 2 years. your play calling was just really bad. as a Giants fan, i have to admit that i was no so happy with our game also. we let you guys back in but on the other hand we dominated the cowboys.
The biggest problem the cowboys have is that they don't have an identity. you know what the Giants are going to do. they are going to play smash mouth football and great defense.
yes kinta played badly but the guy has not played in over 2 years. your play calling was just really bad. as a Giants fan, i have to admit that i was no so happy with our game also. we let you guys back in but on the other hand we dominated the cowboys.
The biggest problem the cowboys have is that they don't have an identity. you know what the Giants are going to do. they are going to play smash mouth football and great defense.
Yeah, you kinda nailed it right there. They have no identity. Of course I thought they would be better and win the division but after the first couple of losses it was clear that this team is just not that good and the greatest coach in the world cannot fix it.
The 2009 draft was a complete waste. You can't just take a year off in the draft like that!
It just sucks.
Oh and to everyone talking about the Rangers chants, my ass would have been doing that too. At least that team shows some heart. Give us a break, we've never been there before and don't know what we are doing!
I guess the Giants are gonna take the division by the looks of it. We still have a very slim chance, but that involves winning games. And I don't think we can do that without Romo. But, we'll see....Anything can happen, that's for sure. But it's not looking so good.
Dez Bryant is still gonna be fun to watch this season...
They are done and with the labor situation coming up who knows what will happen now.
I agree about Dez Bryant though. That guy is going to be fun to watch for a long time.
This fiasco of a year is on the coaches, this team looked terrible in the preseason and that has continued right on into the season. These coaches did not coach this team up well. This team has plenty of talent...to win a super bowl, can't answer that...to compete. I think they do.
The defense gets 5 turnover's still gives up 41 points, how the hell does that happen? This is pretty much the same D from last year, the difference this year is that they don't seem prepared, and it looks like Jenkins and Spencer have taken a step back wards.
The O is boring and teams have them figured out, especially in the red zone. I have no problem with Kitna, from what I hear is he can still fire the ball. But since they are 1-5 it would be fun to see what McGee can do.
But I don't think it matter who's at quarterback because this team is one dimensional, has been since camp. That's partly the line but I am sure coaching and scheming as well.
I Now wouldn't be surprised if Jones uses this Romo injury as an excuse to keep Philips, Jones like Phillips. Hell if Jones decided Mickey Mouse would make a good Safety Phillips would let Jones draft him in round 1.
This ship will continue to sink until Jones hires a GM and decides to stay in the the owners box and be a cheer leader like other owners.
I don't expect much from this team because the owner and coach continue to make excuses which make it easy for the player to make excuse's.
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as a fantasy guy, could somebody tell teh Cowpies defense to wake up. i don't need the points this week, but could use a decent defense down the stretch.
I have their defense as well. The funny thing is that I had both the Giants and Cowboys earlier this season. And for whatever reason, I kept the Boys...
i drafted the giants as well and switched someplace along the line. then i looked at the scoring and they are only seperated by a few points in that league. not enough to care about.
If i was a cowboy fan i would be mad at dez. if he didn't buy $55,000 worth of dinner than maybe teh cowboys would have not been so slow and been able to cover a WR or stop the run.
Oh and to everyone talking about the Rangers chants, my ass would have been doing that too. At least that team shows some heart. Give us a break, we've never been there before and don't know what we are doing!
act like you've been there before. that's how you act as a texas rangers fan.
the rangers may show heart but why start lets go rangers after romo and cowboys season basically eneded. to me that's just not being a true dallas cowboys fan .
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An old friend is in need. It seems his career may be reaching a crossroads, and he could use a little help. You see, there are people begging for him to come to San Francisco . Others are dreaming about him in Cleveland . And, if you listen closely, they've been talking him up in Dallas, too. So, tell me, what advice would you have this morning for Jon Gruden? Hard to believe it has been eight years since he was the NFL's wonder boy, winning a Super Bowl at age 39 with the Buccaneers. Harder still to imagine the league has been deprived of his unique sideline passion for more than 21 months since Tampa Bay dismissed him. All of which may explain why rumors are starting to heat up about Gruden's possible return to coaching.
Yes, he has signed what was supposedly an ironclad TV deal. And he has been a bit of a hit in the Monday Night Football booth, as well as appearances on other ESPN properties. Not to mention, the Bucs are still paying him millions through the end of next season.
Yet timing is everything in the NFL, and the job applications seem to be lining up nicely for a Gruden return.
He even acknowledged he might be open to job offers when asked this week on an NFL.com podcast about the possibility of a comeback.
Which means the larger question is where might he go?
There are a handful of destinations that can probably be ruled out immediately. Carolina is not bringing John Fox back, but the Panthers won't spend close to the kind of money it would take to get Gruden to put down his microphone. The Bills may be changing coaches for the 32nd consecutive season, but there didn't seem to be much interest in that coupling a few months ago.
In the coming months there will be other teams that falter, and other job opportunities will come around. For now, however, the focus would appear to be on the Browns, 49ers and Cowboys.
So, again, if you're advising Gruden, what do you tell him?
Do you push for a reunion with his old friend and mentor Mike Holmgren in Cleveland?
After all, it was Holmgren who gave Gruden his first break in the NFL almost 20 years ago. Gruden was just a few years out of college and working as a grunt in San Francisco where Holmgren was his immediate supervisor as the 49ers offensive coordinator. When Holmgren was hired as the head coach in Green Bay, he brought Gruden along as one of his assistants.
Still, you might wonder if that relationship would still work all these years later. Each man has since won a Super Bowl as a head coach in the NFL, and each is going to have strong opinions about personnel and philosophies.
Cleveland is also a team in complete rebuilding mode, and Gruden has never shown much patience for building from the ground up.
So, no, maybe Cleveland isn't the best place right now.
Does that mean a return to San Francisco is the best answer?
After all, it was where Gruden's NFL career began as a quality control coach in 1990. And maybe there would be some satisfaction in setting up shop across the bay from where Gruden spent four years as a head coach for Al Davis in Oakland.
Fans in San Francisco are running out of patience with Mike Singletary, and the team certainly seems to have more talent than its 1-5 record would indicate. But, in the end, the only real draw seems to be a geographical acquaintance some years ago.
So, no, perhaps San Francisco isn't the frontrunner, either.
Does that mean Gruden is best suited for Dallas?
You betcha.
The job is certainly high profile. And the owner definitely has money to spend. The Cowboys have a Pro Bowl quarterback with a reputation for being an underachiever at playoff time, and that might be just the kind of pet project that would intrigue Gruden.
The Cowboys have been in the postseason three of the past four years but have not been able to get past their first playoff game. In other words, they're not so different from the Bucs team Gruden took over in 2002.
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has employed Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer and Bill Parcells over the years but squeezed in Dave Campo, Chan Gailey and now Wade Phillips in between. In other words, it's about time for Jones to go hunting for another star with a whistle.
When Pete Carroll and Mike Shanahan were on the market last season, the Seahawks and Redskins were both willing to pay $7 million a season to lure them to town. Gruden could be in the same ballpark, and Jones is one of the few owners who could afford him.
In a way, the bigger question may be whether Jones wants to go after Gruden or Bill Cowher.
No matter how the next few months shake out, the suspicion is that Gruden will show up soon with a job as an NFL head coach. The time just seems right.
As frustrating as the final few seasons were in Tampa Bay, there was really never a question about the man's talents as coach. Gruden is at his best running a pro football team, and the NFL is a better league when he is on the sideline.
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kat---let's go ahead and lock this thread up. always next year guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gJgOCc1EE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFK1yKfiGo
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
you can scratch and crawl your way out of 1-3...even 2-4 in this conference. but now the cowboys are the depths of hell. romo out for at least a month. i'd be lying if i said i was not enjoying this though.
do you know if this monstrous stadium is sold out for the year? i can't wait to see tens of thousands of empty seats in that place
if it's not sold out for the rest of the season, i'm sure season tickets will be unloaded by the thousands after tonight.
this team is so pathetic they can't even hold onto a gift wrapped fumble
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
And to those of you laughing at Romo's injury. Seriously? Dont be a douchebag.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
flag--not laughing at an injury....just at 1-5
Cool. Can't stand when people do that. Injuries suck.
Anyhow, it ought to be easy to get tickets now. What a joke of a team. Yikes.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
damn i held that in for a long time
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
dear god kinta is awful
it be funny if dallas got the onside kick
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
really?
wow just wow
i'd fucking kill to be at a dallas cowboys game and these asshole fans chant lets go rangers
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
i just mentioned that in the phils thread. some people think that kind of thing only happens in philly
to me that's just fraudism at it's finest and i know that's funny cause i'm saying it but CMON MAN. if your a true cowboys fan you'd leave the stadium with your head held down and not wait around by the mnf table just to chant lets go rangers. that almost makes me wanna root for the sf giants.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
They were doing that last night, that's like a jinx. Don't they know that....shame.....shame.....shame.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Dez Bryant is still gonna be fun to watch this season...
yes kinta played badly but the guy has not played in over 2 years. your play calling was just really bad. as a Giants fan, i have to admit that i was no so happy with our game also. we let you guys back in but on the other hand we dominated the cowboys.
The biggest problem the cowboys have is that they don't have an identity. you know what the Giants are going to do. they are going to play smash mouth football and great defense.
Yeah, you kinda nailed it right there. They have no identity. Of course I thought they would be better and win the division but after the first couple of losses it was clear that this team is just not that good and the greatest coach in the world cannot fix it.
The 2009 draft was a complete waste. You can't just take a year off in the draft like that!
It just sucks.
Oh and to everyone talking about the Rangers chants, my ass would have been doing that too. At least that team shows some heart. Give us a break, we've never been there before and don't know what we are doing!
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
They are done and with the labor situation coming up who knows what will happen now.
I agree about Dez Bryant though. That guy is going to be fun to watch for a long time.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
The defense gets 5 turnover's still gives up 41 points, how the hell does that happen? This is pretty much the same D from last year, the difference this year is that they don't seem prepared, and it looks like Jenkins and Spencer have taken a step back wards.
The O is boring and teams have them figured out, especially in the red zone. I have no problem with Kitna, from what I hear is he can still fire the ball. But since they are 1-5 it would be fun to see what McGee can do.
But I don't think it matter who's at quarterback because this team is one dimensional, has been since camp. That's partly the line but I am sure coaching and scheming as well.
I Now wouldn't be surprised if Jones uses this Romo injury as an excuse to keep Philips, Jones like Phillips. Hell if Jones decided Mickey Mouse would make a good Safety Phillips would let Jones draft him in round 1.
This ship will continue to sink until Jones hires a GM and decides to stay in the the owners box and be a cheer leader like other owners.
I don't expect much from this team because the owner and coach continue to make excuses which make it easy for the player to make excuse's.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
i drafted the giants as well and switched someplace along the line. then i looked at the scoring and they are only seperated by a few points in that league. not enough to care about.
Cowboys Suck!!!
the rangers may show heart but why start lets go rangers after romo and cowboys season basically eneded. to me that's just not being a true dallas cowboys fan .
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but they haven't been there before :P
By JOHN ROMANO,
(McClatchy News Service)
An old friend is in need. It seems his career may be reaching a crossroads, and he could use a little help. You see, there are people begging for him to come to San Francisco . Others are dreaming about him in Cleveland . And, if you listen closely, they've been talking him up in Dallas, too. So, tell me, what advice would you have this morning for Jon Gruden? Hard to believe it has been eight years since he was the NFL's wonder boy, winning a Super Bowl at age 39 with the Buccaneers. Harder still to imagine the league has been deprived of his unique sideline passion for more than 21 months since Tampa Bay dismissed him. All of which may explain why rumors are starting to heat up about Gruden's possible return to coaching.
Yes, he has signed what was supposedly an ironclad TV deal. And he has been a bit of a hit in the Monday Night Football booth, as well as appearances on other ESPN properties. Not to mention, the Bucs are still paying him millions through the end of next season.
Yet timing is everything in the NFL, and the job applications seem to be lining up nicely for a Gruden return.
He even acknowledged he might be open to job offers when asked this week on an NFL.com podcast about the possibility of a comeback.
Which means the larger question is where might he go?
There are a handful of destinations that can probably be ruled out immediately. Carolina is not bringing John Fox back, but the Panthers won't spend close to the kind of money it would take to get Gruden to put down his microphone. The Bills may be changing coaches for the 32nd consecutive season, but there didn't seem to be much interest in that coupling a few months ago.
In the coming months there will be other teams that falter, and other job opportunities will come around. For now, however, the focus would appear to be on the Browns, 49ers and Cowboys.
So, again, if you're advising Gruden, what do you tell him?
Do you push for a reunion with his old friend and mentor Mike Holmgren in Cleveland?
After all, it was Holmgren who gave Gruden his first break in the NFL almost 20 years ago. Gruden was just a few years out of college and working as a grunt in San Francisco where Holmgren was his immediate supervisor as the 49ers offensive coordinator. When Holmgren was hired as the head coach in Green Bay, he brought Gruden along as one of his assistants.
Still, you might wonder if that relationship would still work all these years later. Each man has since won a Super Bowl as a head coach in the NFL, and each is going to have strong opinions about personnel and philosophies.
Cleveland is also a team in complete rebuilding mode, and Gruden has never shown much patience for building from the ground up.
So, no, maybe Cleveland isn't the best place right now.
Does that mean a return to San Francisco is the best answer?
After all, it was where Gruden's NFL career began as a quality control coach in 1990. And maybe there would be some satisfaction in setting up shop across the bay from where Gruden spent four years as a head coach for Al Davis in Oakland.
Fans in San Francisco are running out of patience with Mike Singletary, and the team certainly seems to have more talent than its 1-5 record would indicate. But, in the end, the only real draw seems to be a geographical acquaintance some years ago.
So, no, perhaps San Francisco isn't the frontrunner, either.
Does that mean Gruden is best suited for Dallas?
You betcha.
The job is certainly high profile. And the owner definitely has money to spend. The Cowboys have a Pro Bowl quarterback with a reputation for being an underachiever at playoff time, and that might be just the kind of pet project that would intrigue Gruden.
The Cowboys have been in the postseason three of the past four years but have not been able to get past their first playoff game. In other words, they're not so different from the Bucs team Gruden took over in 2002.
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has employed Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer and Bill Parcells over the years but squeezed in Dave Campo, Chan Gailey and now Wade Phillips in between. In other words, it's about time for Jones to go hunting for another star with a whistle.
When Pete Carroll and Mike Shanahan were on the market last season, the Seahawks and Redskins were both willing to pay $7 million a season to lure them to town. Gruden could be in the same ballpark, and Jones is one of the few owners who could afford him.
In a way, the bigger question may be whether Jones wants to go after Gruden or Bill Cowher.
No matter how the next few months shake out, the suspicion is that Gruden will show up soon with a job as an NFL head coach. The time just seems right.
As frustrating as the final few seasons were in Tampa Bay, there was really never a question about the man's talents as coach. Gruden is at his best running a pro football team, and the NFL is a better league when he is on the sideline.
Instead we have Phillips just ho-humming along.......
I couldn't have said it better...