Australian Election - August 21

Austicman wrote:

catefrances wrote:

anyways its really neither here nor there. its her policies that speak for her and as far as im concerned shes lacking in that department. im tired of hearing about making our borders safe knowing what theyre talking about is only applicable to boat people. we all know the majority of people who come here and stay 'illegally' do so via the front door. and any education policy that doesnt increase funding for public schools without increasing funding for private schools is not a real education policy imo. and by funding i mean the provision of resources, not the willy nilly construction of buildings not needed at the expense of much needed concrete resources. and can we please have more incentive for our teachers to go to remote schools.

Shits me to tears at how much the Murdoch media play the "Boat people invasion" to sell news. I guess most Aussies haven't caught on to the fact that this is the same guy that own and runs fox news.

So anyway the reality is that from july 2008 to july 2009, Approximately 158,000 people migrated to Australia. About 12000 of them were Asylum seekers and 1033 of them came by boat :shock:

Can someone please explain to me why this is such a massive issue. Boat people make up less than 9% of asylum seekers and less than 1% of total immigrants in 2008/09.

fear is the virus they use to divide us. you know this.

in the case of the afghanis,it amazes me that we invade their country and when they rock up on our shores seeking asylum we have the hide to throw them in detention centres. ummm hello???????

i guess australia conveniently forgets that the first boat people on these shores was the first fleet.

TroubledSoul wrote:

Austicman wrote:

I guess most Aussies haven't caught on to the fact that this is the same guy that own and runs fox news.

most aussies wouldnt give a shit.

i love the gigantic % of the population that dont even know the name of the party they vote for. "yeh labour party! woo! doin it for the labourers".

Indeed. Still cracks me up that are largest conservative party in the country are called the Liberals :wtf:

Austicman wrote:

Well well well look what the cat dragged in!!!

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/ ... 10ywu.html

hope she decides to bring out the red feather boa.

Late last night the Coalition announced it won't be voting for an internet filter that censors the web. This comes after the Government responded to our campaign by deferring the filter until 2012 (with the likelihood that the filter will never come back in its current form).

With independent Senator Nick Xenophon, the Greens and now the Coalition all walking away from the ineffective policy of censoring the internet, there is now no way for the Senate to pass this scheme.

This is your victory. Thank you!

Check out what we did together -- and hear about the ongoing global fight here:

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet&id=1274

We've known all along that a system of internet censorship that missed the vast majority of unwanted content, would encourage the outsourcing of parenting and limit our online freedoms.

And we've been joined in these endeavours by our friends at Electronic Frontiers Australia and literally thousands of campaigners in a grassroots movement.

But firewalls, monitoring and governments blocking websites was never just an Australian problem. With our victory comes the realisation that social movements in Iran, China and Burma are still fighting for their political freedoms online. In fact, 30% of the world's population live in regimes that block access to parts of the internet.

Responsibility falls on us, on this side of the firewall, to help our friends who are forced to live with censored internet and the axing of their political freedoms. That's why, in partnership with our friends at global campaigning group Avaaz, we've gotten behind a worldwide anti-internet censorship movement -- AccessNow. Access provides ways for you to provide your voice, your bandwidth and your resources to continue the global flight.

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet&id=1274

Today's announcement is a real example of the power of an organised, mature, online movement. Indeed it was new technology and the power of online campaigning, which was itself at risk from internet filtering, that brought this campaign to the masses.

catefrances wrote:

http://blast.getup.org.au/s/URBqLX_oT3yZsqPUVMbaQw/h1


According to The Australian, the Coalition is devoting today to winning the women's vote.1 But does Tony Abbott deserve it? See our latest ad featuring his views on issues important to women, spoken by GetUp members.



Women are being shamefully overlooked in this election by politicians and the media. The turn of female voters away from Tony Abbott is being dismissed as a turn towards Julia Gillard's gender, while Tony Abbott's archaic and indefensible views on issues affecting women go unexamined and unchallenged.

That all ends today. Watch our new video from GetUp women, putting Tony's words on the record for all Australians to see:

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/WomenSpeakOut

Politicians from all sides are mistakenly assuming that women will simply vote along gender lines. It's beyond condescending, but it also misses the point: political leadership is about so much more. It's about where you stand, who you respect, and what you'll do from a position of power.

It's time to get to the truth. Women and men alike will be shocked by the quotes in this video, each and every line expressed by Tony Abbott himself. See for yourself now, and help put the message on air:

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/WomenSpeakOut

This video features GetUp members--women who have dared to speak Mr Abbott's own words back to him for all Australians to see. They're words that many Australians will find deeply disturbing. Even if you think you've seen and heard it all from Mr Abbott: his absolute opposition to abortion, his daring to weigh in on something as personal as a woman's virginity, his opposition to the cervical cancer vaccine, you have to watch this ad - now. Then chip in to ensure every other Australian gets to see it too:

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/WomenSpeakOut

Throughout his political career, Tony Abbott has advocated views more appropriate to 1910 than 2010. Now, as he asks voters to make him the next Prime Minister of our country, we need him to bring his views into the 21st century.

As Mr Abbott reaches a leading position in the polls, we need to know where he stands. Is climate change still "absolute crap"? Is abortion still just a question of a woman's "convenience"? Is it still "folly" to expect women to ever approach equal representation in all areas of public life? Click here to watch the ad, and get the real questions heard and answered this election.

Thank you for changing this election,
The GetUp Team

PS - We want to thank the GetUp members who appeared in this ad. It's not easy to put yourself out there. We admire their courage, respect their views and want to do all we can to make sure their message gets heard. Please join us in supporting them.

I read somewhere that getup also had one of John Howards voter registration laws overturned. It gives people more time to register before an election. It's believed 100,000 people missed out on voting at the last election because of it.

Austicman wrote:

catefrances wrote:

http://blast.getup.org.au/s/URBqLX_oT3yZsqPUVMbaQw/h1


According to The Australian, the Coalition is devoting today to winning the women's vote.1 But does Tony Abbott deserve it? See our latest ad featuring his views on issues important to women, spoken by GetUp members.



Women are being shamefully overlooked in this election by politicians and the media. The turn of female voters away from Tony Abbott is being dismissed as a turn towards Julia Gillard's gender, while Tony Abbott's archaic and indefensible views on issues affecting women go unexamined and unchallenged.

That all ends today. Watch our new video from GetUp women, putting Tony's words on the record for all Australians to see:

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/WomenSpeakOut

Politicians from all sides are mistakenly assuming that women will simply vote along gender lines. It's beyond condescending, but it also misses the point: political leadership is about so much more. It's about where you stand, who you respect, and what you'll do from a position of power.

It's time to get to the truth. Women and men alike will be shocked by the quotes in this video, each and every line expressed by Tony Abbott himself. See for yourself now, and help put the message on air:

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/WomenSpeakOut

This video features GetUp members--women who have dared to speak Mr Abbott's own words back to him for all Australians to see. They're words that many Australians will find deeply disturbing. Even if you think you've seen and heard it all from Mr Abbott: his absolute opposition to abortion, his daring to weigh in on something as personal as a woman's virginity, his opposition to the cervical cancer vaccine, you have to watch this ad - now. Then chip in to ensure every other Australian gets to see it too:

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/WomenSpeakOut

Throughout his political career, Tony Abbott has advocated views more appropriate to 1910 than 2010. Now, as he asks voters to make him the next Prime Minister of our country, we need him to bring his views into the 21st century.

As Mr Abbott reaches a leading position in the polls, we need to know where he stands. Is climate change still "absolute crap"? Is abortion still just a question of a woman's "convenience"? Is it still "folly" to expect women to ever approach equal representation in all areas of public life? Click here to watch the ad, and get the real questions heard and answered this election.

Thank you for changing this election,
The GetUp Team

PS - We want to thank the GetUp members who appeared in this ad. It's not easy to put yourself out there. We admire their courage, respect their views and want to do all we can to make sure their message gets heard. Please join us in supporting them.

I read somewhere that getup also had one of John Howards voter registration laws overturned. It gives people more time to register before an election. It's believed 100,000 people missed out on voting at the last election because of it.

yep thats true.. but i have to wonder why the heck arent people on the electoral roll in the first place?? personally i think in a country where voting is compulsory, registration on the roll should be automatic . so upon ones 18th birthday you recieve a notification.

Austicman wrote:

catefrances wrote:

anyways its really neither here nor there. its her policies that speak for her and as far as im concerned shes lacking in that department. im tired of hearing about making our borders safe knowing what theyre talking about is only applicable to boat people. we all know the majority of people who come here and stay 'illegally' do so via the front door. and any education policy that doesnt increase funding for public schools without increasing funding for private schools is not a real education policy imo. and by funding i mean the provision of resources, not the willy nilly construction of buildings not needed at the expense of much needed concrete resources. and can we please have more incentive for our teachers to go to remote schools.

Shits me to tears at how much the Murdoch media play the "Boat people invasion" to sell news. I guess most Aussies haven't caught on to the fact that this is the same guy that own and runs fox news.

So anyway the reality is that from july 2008 to july 2009, Approximately 158,000 people migrated to Australia. About 12000 of them were Asylum seekers and 1033 of them came by boat :shock:

Can someone please explain to me why this is such a massive issue. Boat people make up less than 9% of asylum seekers and less than 1% of total immigrants in 2008/09.

because a lot of aussies are stupid racsist biggots. facts dont matter just FEAR
scare em, dont give facts

I dont want to go back to Howards Australia. Was glad to see the bigotry end

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

Austicman wrote:

catefrances wrote:

anyways its really neither here nor there. its her policies that speak for her and as far as im concerned shes lacking in that department. im tired of hearing about making our borders safe knowing what theyre talking about is only applicable to boat people. we all know the majority of people who come here and stay 'illegally' do so via the front door. and any education policy that doesnt increase funding for public schools without increasing funding for private schools is not a real education policy imo. and by funding i mean the provision of resources, not the willy nilly construction of buildings not needed at the expense of much needed concrete resources. and can we please have more incentive for our teachers to go to remote schools.

Shits me to tears at how much the Murdoch media play the "Boat people invasion" to sell news. I guess most Aussies haven't caught on to the fact that this is the same guy that own and runs fox news.

So anyway the reality is that from july 2008 to july 2009, Approximately 158,000 people migrated to Australia. About 12000 of them were Asylum seekers and 1033 of them came by boat :shock:

Can someone please explain to me why this is such a massive issue. Boat people make up less than 9% of asylum seekers and less than 1% of total immigrants in 2008/09.

because a lot of aussies are stupid racsist biggots. facts dont matter just FEAR
scare em, dont give facts

I dont want to go back to Howards Australia. Was glad to see the bigotry end

it hasnt really ended. do you forget that julia wanted to process asylum seekers in timor leste. last time i checked that country wasnt a part of ours.

catefrances wrote:

it hasnt really ended. do you forget that julia wanted to process asylum seekers in timor leste. last time i checked that country wasnt a part of ours.

Yeah but this was announced with the intention of establishing a Pacific Forum. Perhaps it is not the perfect solution but Julia has got to be elected and if she says we will process them in Australia.... in the red neck climate of the moment ... she will not get elected. It is easy to say what politicians should do but rememer that they have to get elected so they must to some extent toe the populus line. People complain about the ALP's alighment with the unions but I cannot fathom why it is ok for the Libs to align with big business and mining companies. I for one am scared that we will go back to a pre Rudd Howard, workchoices like Australia. I am terrified that things could be potentially worse (than Howard) under Abbott ... listen to some of the things that he has said when he was not on the election campaign........ scary stuff!!!