Australian Election - August 21

Austicman

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Hung parliament. Lets hope this is a win for the Australian People and that the country doesn't grind to a halt because nothing gets passed both houses.

catefrances

Austicman wrote:

:shock: :shock: :shock:

Hung parliament. Lets hope this is a win for the Australian People and that the country doesn't grind to a halt because nothing gets passed both houses.

when is it ever a win for the australian people?? this was like choosing betweent a rhe lesser of two evils when we didnt even know who was the less evil. i was amused to see maxine mckew being the first one to come out with sour grapes. wah wha wha chica. if you had real policy you wouldve held your seat. and your party wouldnt need your whiny excuse. ugh.

catefrances

this is the electorate in which my parents live. wonder if they voted for him.


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/ele ... oungest-MP


Wyatt Roy set to become youngest MP


Liberal candidate Wyatt Roy is on track to win the Queensland seat of Longman.

The 20-year-old is holding 52.39 per cent of the vote on a two-party preferred basis against Labor member Jon Sullivan at 47.61 per cent, according to preliminary results.

But while he is facing a 4.26 per cent swing in his favour, Mr Roy will not claim victory in the outer northern Brisbane seat until much later in the evening.

"We still do have a long night ahead of us," Mr Roy told the Nine Network.

"There's still a lot of votes to be counted."

Former Liberal treasurer Peter Costello said on the Nine Network Mr Roy is on track to be leader of the party by 2035.

"I'll have a chat to Peter about that later," Mr Roy joked.

He will become the nation's youngest ever federal Member of Parliament.

It is the first time Mr Roy has even voted in a federal election.

"Naturally, anybody who goes through a campaign understands that it's both gruelling and it's personally demanding, and I look forward to it being over," he told AAP while casting his vote at a Caboolture polling booth today.

Despite the question mark that lingered over Mr Roy's age, he ran a clinical grass roots campaign and used the media attention to his advantage by highlighting local issues every chance he got.

He will take the seat from Labor's Jon Sullivan, who had to apologise over a gaffe at a public forum recently: he accused a father of not taking sufficient action, after being told the family had waited two years for specialist medical help.

vedder_soup

numbered 1-84 below the line!!! called my local mp a dickhead.... coz he is, but he picked up another 6% swing toward him.... dickhead!! and had a great sausage, bacon and egg sammo!
Hung parliment?????? well the sex party will like it
Minority lib government working with the greens in the senate
ex national indipendants already saying some interesting things, and calling Barnaby joyce a fool

we have a way to go yet, but this could be an outcome that means shit gets done for once! :shock:

pjfan31

I walked past 4 seasons hotel in sydney last night, where abbott was having his party, and me and my mates just walked in, hung around the press for a while. The 3 of us with sydney swans scarfs on. It was funny. Well at least we thought it was.

catefrances

ive been thinking of wyatt roy and longman electorate. probbaly moreso than i would normally cause this is where 4/6th of my family live.

i have to wonder what kind of informed person votes for a 20 year old. it makes me think that this is a prime example of how people vote blindly for a party regardless of who the candidate is. i find it incredibly diffcult to believe that this young man for whom this was his first election as a voter, let alone a candidate... who its quite possible isnt even old enough to have finished an undergrad degree. and who i seriously hope does not still live with his parents. what were the people of longman thinking?? what could this young man possibly know of life? what life experience could he bring to his electorate? i have a 20 year old niece and i cant begin to imagine her representing her electorate with any gravitas, let alone respect from the community.

ONCE DEVIDED

catefrances wrote:

ive been thinking of wyatt roy and longman electorate. probbaly moreso than i would normally cause this is where 4/6th of my family live.

i have to wonder what kind of informed person votes for a 20 year old. it makes me think that this is a prime example of how people vote blindly for a party regardless of who the candidate is. i find it incredibly diffcult to believe that this young man for whom this was his first election as a voter, let alone a candidate... who its quite possible isnt even old enough to have finished an undergrad degree. and who i seriously hope does not still live with his parents. what were the people of longman thinking?? what could this young man possibly know of life? what life experience could he bring to his electorate? i have a 20 year old niece and i cant begin to imagine her representing her electorate with any gravitas, let alone respect from the community.

yeah cant agree more. What experience does he bring.
I suppose School seeing as he just left it. so maybe make him education minister. We all know this guy will go in and be instructed to what to say, what to vote,
but good on em for keeping the seat swinging, this ensures that money will be spent there.
Come to Newcastle- huntervalley area. The idiots here keep on voting Labor and never getting anything.
We are the bloody powerhouse, superpit of the eastcoast but no money ever comes our way.
Im a labor man i reckon but continue to vote libs/greens to make our seat swing. but no too many stupid ignorant sheep
Fuckin frustrating

TriumphantAngel

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

catefrances wrote:

ive been thinking of wyatt roy and longman electorate. probbaly moreso than i would normally cause this is where 4/6th of my family live.

i have to wonder what kind of informed person votes for a 20 year old. it makes me think that this is a prime example of how people vote blindly for a party regardless of who the candidate is. i find it incredibly diffcult to believe that this young man for whom this was his first election as a voter, let alone a candidate... who its quite possible isnt even old enough to have finished an undergrad degree. and who i seriously hope does not still live with his parents. what were the people of longman thinking?? what could this young man possibly know of life? what life experience could he bring to his electorate? i have a 20 year old niece and i cant begin to imagine her representing her electorate with any gravitas, let alone respect from the community.

yeah cant agree more. What experience does he bring.

that's almost like saying that young people shouldn't be allowed to vote and possibly influence the outcome of the election because they have no experience in life.
word on the street is that this young man ran an excellent campaign and campaigned tirelessly in his electorate and gained much support from people of all ages.

if the votes of young Australians are counted as equal to anyone elses (which they are), then if nothing else, he brings the voice of the thousands of young people with him and i don't think that's a bad thing.

age should not be a barrier. he won't have the experience that some of the crusty old politicans have, but i'm sure he'll learn quickly enough.

catefrances

funding education.

queenwood a tony private girls school on the leafy north shore here in sydney has just posted a surplus of $4.7m. it recieved $3.2m funding from the government. in 2008 the school collected $2.4m from student fees. in 2006 their surplus was $3.4m, half a million up from 2005, where their total revenue was $15.65m which included $2.7m in govt grants.

i cant be the only person who thinks it is obscene that the govt continues to fund such schools when the public system is so neglected.

catefrances

TriumphantAngel wrote:

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

catefrances wrote:

ive been thinking of wyatt roy and longman electorate. probbaly moreso than i would normally cause this is where 4/6th of my family live.

i have to wonder what kind of informed person votes for a 20 year old. it makes me think that this is a prime example of how people vote blindly for a party regardless of who the candidate is. i find it incredibly diffcult to believe that this young man for whom this was his first election as a voter, let alone a candidate... who its quite possible isnt even old enough to have finished an undergrad degree. and who i seriously hope does not still live with his parents. what were the people of longman thinking?? what could this young man possibly know of life? what life experience could he bring to his electorate? i have a 20 year old niece and i cant begin to imagine her representing her electorate with any gravitas, let alone respect from the community.

yeah cant agree more. What experience does he bring.

that's almost like saying that young people shouldn't be allowed to vote and possibly influence the outcome of the election because they have no experience in life.
word on the street is that this young man ran an excellent campaign and campaigned tirelessly in his electorate and gained much support from people of all ages.

if the votes of young Australians are counted as equal to anyone elses (which they are), then if nothing else, he brings the voice of the thousands of young people with him and i don't think that's a bad thing.

age should not be a barrier. he won't have the experience that some of the crusty old politicans have, but i'm sure he'll learn quickly enough.

he will have no choice but to learn quickly. and the fact that hes said he wasnt all that interested in politics hopefully will work to his advantage. time will tell and i shall be keeping an eye on young wyatt. i shall be polling his electorate this week and seeing what the voters i know have to say.

i wouldnt have voted for him even if he was my child. but then again ive never voted for the libs so...

Red_Dot

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

Heard a funny one this morn at work. Somebody swears that if you follow Mark Lathams suggestion to only get your name ticked off and not actually vote. well this guy reckons if you do that, your vote automatically goes to Labor as the incumbant party in office.
he reckons its a con by Mark Latham and the Labor party to get your vote.

I have also heard this - not the conspiracy Mark Latham part, but that a donkey vote goes to whoever is in government. My boss swears it. Someone else told me it goes to the coalition.
Who knows where they got this info from

ONCE DEVIDED

Red_Dot wrote:

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

Heard a funny one this morn at work. Somebody swears that if you follow Mark Lathams suggestion to only get your name ticked off and not actually vote. well this guy reckons if you do that, your vote automatically goes to Labor as the incumbant party in office.
he reckons its a con by Mark Latham and the Labor party to get your vote.

I have also heard this - not the conspiracy Mark Latham part, but that a donkey vote goes to whoever is in government. My boss swears it. Someone else told me it goes to the coalition.
Who knows where they got this info from

well todays a good day to grab the paper and point out the informal vote for each electorate.
people will beleive anything. BAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAA

ONCE DEVIDED

TriumphantAngel wrote:

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

catefrances wrote:

ive been thinking of wyatt roy and longman electorate. probbaly moreso than i would normally cause this is where 4/6th of my family live.

i have to wonder what kind of informed person votes for a 20 year old. it makes me think that this is a prime example of how people vote blindly for a party regardless of who the candidate is. i find it incredibly diffcult to believe that this young man for whom this was his first election as a voter, let alone a candidate... who its quite possible isnt even old enough to have finished an undergrad degree. and who i seriously hope does not still live with his parents. what were the people of longman thinking?? what could this young man possibly know of life? what life experience could he bring to his electorate? i have a 20 year old niece and i cant begin to imagine her representing her electorate with any gravitas, let alone respect from the community.

yeah cant agree more. What experience does he bring.

that's almost like saying that young people shouldn't be allowed to vote and possibly influence the outcome of the election because they have no experience in life.
word on the street is that this young man ran an excellent campaign and campaigned tirelessly in his electorate and gained much support from people of all ages.

if the votes of young Australians are counted as equal to anyone elses (which they are), then if nothing else, he brings the voice of the thousands of young people with him and i don't think that's a bad thing.

age should not be a barrier. he won't have the experience that some of the crusty old politicans have, but i'm sure he'll learn quickly enough.

He isnt representing thousands of young people, he is repesenting his seat. but being youbg he knows nothing of morgages, seniors etc.
he knows how to play xbox for sure.
The youth need a voice. they wont get one with him.
the libs however get a vote in parliment, and if they get in he may be asked to ask a dorothy at some stage.
the people in his seat simply swung back to liberals, not because he had good polocies.

catefrances

Red_Dot wrote:

ONCE DEVIDED wrote:

Heard a funny one this morn at work. Somebody swears that if you follow Mark Lathams suggestion to only get your name ticked off and not actually vote. well this guy reckons if you do that, your vote automatically goes to Labor as the incumbant party in office.
he reckons its a con by Mark Latham and the Labor party to get your vote.

I have also heard this - not the conspiracy Mark Latham part, but that a donkey vote goes to whoever is in government. My boss swears it. Someone else told me it goes to the coalition.
Who knows where they got this info from

i know....someone makes it up and fools believe them..

Austicman

Does it really matter who is declared PM? For arguements sake if Tony Abbott got the numbers and was declared PM but all the independents preferred Labor's broadband plan. Can't Labor put their plan forward and get the independents/Green to vote it through the lower house and Labor and the Greens vote it through the senate. Do you have to be the governing Party to propose policy and have it voted on?

ONCE DEVIDED

Austicman wrote:

Does it really matter who is declared PM? For arguements sake if Tony Abbott got the numbers and was declared PM but all the independents preferred Labor's broadband plan. Can't Labor put their plan forward and get the independents/Green to vote it through the lower house and Labor and the Greens vote it through the senate. Do you have to be the governing Party to propose policy and have it voted on?

your spot on there.
I reckon its a good thing.
teach them pollies some civility
cant see Abbot nogotiating with the greens on anything though

vedder_soup

unfortunatly the new senate does not come in until july next year :shock:
that means if the coalition get in, basically they have a free reign until then, and if labor get in, they have a tougher task with the senate until then. Broadband would be passed as Tonys form very quickly should he get in :?

catefrances

Austicman wrote:

Does it really matter who is declared PM? For arguements sake if Tony Abbott got the numbers and was declared PM but all the independents preferred Labor's broadband plan. Can't Labor put their plan forward and get the independents/Green to vote it through the lower house and Labor and the Greens vote it through the senate. Do you have to be the governing Party to propose policy and have it voted on?

proposals for new legislation or amendments to existing legislation can come from members of the opposition.

polaris_x

i hear the backlash from the rudd takeover pretty much killed labour ... in other news tho - way to go greens!! ... wooohooo!

catefrances

polaris_x wrote:

i hear the backlash from the rudd takeover pretty much killed labour ... in other news tho - way to go greens!! ... wooohooo!

i heard queensland is particularly furious and acted accordingly. but it wasnt that rudd was usurped, it was the way in which it was done.